A lot of Beck’s picks were good decisions but bad ball placement and timing. It’s like he was expecting the ball to arrive faster than it did. If he has regained his power from a couple years ago, I think those balls arrive a smidge earlier or are thrown a bit further and they’re completed instead of picked. We will see. His difficulty rifling the ball downfield quickly seemed to be more of a concern than his decision making, from my own armchair-YouTube watching perspective. If that zip is back, he should be ok.
So do we start Beck?
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I would not give Brissett a new contract since he is not their future. He is a journeyman at best. Go with Beck and see what he can do. If Beck is not the answer, they get a high first-round pick to use for a quarterback in the 2027 draft.
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Beck will play eventually. No reason he needs to start week 1.
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There is serious concern internally that Carson Beck has the same deficiencies that were extremely obvious if you watched him in college.
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I already said this earlier, but you can't run him out there if he's horrendous. It's unfair to the other guys on offense and you won't be able to evaluate your own players.
When we're 7 games under... fine, run him out there, see what he's got, and when he fails go back to Jacoby or Minch.
well obviously...
But if its even close, then every player on the squad would understand going with the rookie...theoretically he will improve and be a better QB in week 14 than he is in week 3....and we are working towards having a solid starter for the next 10 years of their careers and not just this season
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Well... here is how I think it will play out.
It will NOT be close, however, we WILL be bad, and the calls to give Beck a shot will come early and come loud, and I think they would be better off resisting those calls until we're well out of it because it's going to be hard to step back from it if he's utterly horrendous.
Maybe I am wrong, and Beck does have starter potential, even then, they should wait. The early schedule is brutal and IMO, young QBs getting defeated or punch drunk is a real thing.
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It's not a matter of paying JB or starting Beck. I'd be fine with trading/cutting JB, starting the season with Minshew, then moving on to Beck to see what we have.
I bet he gets a chance to start in preseason.
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Whoever starts, not many people are expecting much in wins this year. With the quarterbacks that will be available in the 2027 draft, I don't see any quarterback on the 2026 roster that we can say will make the Cardinals competitive enough to get them into the playoffs each year.
I do like ESPN's 2027 mock draft, https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2027/...irst-round-predictions-32-picks-manning-smith
Pairing Manning with Jeremiyah Love would give the Cardinals two elite building blocks. Manning, at 6-foot-4, 219 pounds, is a sturdy dual-threat quarterback. He finished with 3,163 passing yards, 26 touchdown throws and seven interceptions in his first year as a starter while adding 10 rushing touchdowns. Manning's throwing motion, footwork and progressions are still inconsistent, leading to scattershot ball placement and holding on to the ball too long, but he continued developing as the season went on. He has all the traits of a No. 1 pick -- he just needs to unlock the next stage of his development.
Even after they drafted Carson Beck in the third round last week, QB is absolutely in play for the Cardinals if they have a high pick.
I do like ESPN's 2027 mock draft, https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2027/...irst-round-predictions-32-picks-manning-smith
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1. Arizona Cardinals
Arch Manning, QB, Texas*Pairing Manning with Jeremiyah Love would give the Cardinals two elite building blocks. Manning, at 6-foot-4, 219 pounds, is a sturdy dual-threat quarterback. He finished with 3,163 passing yards, 26 touchdown throws and seven interceptions in his first year as a starter while adding 10 rushing touchdowns. Manning's throwing motion, footwork and progressions are still inconsistent, leading to scattershot ball placement and holding on to the ball too long, but he continued developing as the season went on. He has all the traits of a No. 1 pick -- he just needs to unlock the next stage of his development.
Even after they drafted Carson Beck in the third round last week, QB is absolutely in play for the Cardinals if they have a high pick.
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Except the elder Manning is not going to allow Arch to go to AZ. He has already shown he is above the NFL.
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I can appreciate the way he might feel, but realistically where would he go? Miami? NYJ? Pick your disaster! Keep in mind the Chargers ended up with Phillip Rivers by trading Manning. They also got the Giants 2004 3rd plus their 2005 1st & 5th. There’s no obvious NYG to trade with. I’m not even certain Manning is the best fit for MLF’s offense. Moore would seem a better pocket passer. If the Cards finish first I’m okay with trading him to one of the above letting the Cards take Moore and a 2028 top pick. Let Manning make that happen. The NFL is far more powerful than they were in 2004. They are now the unquestioned premier sport. I think the Mannings will find they have much less leverage.
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Buddy everyone here would happily trade a third and future first and fifth to get into the #1 overall spot. It’s pretty crazy to think otherwise.
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Hope this is just an overreaction.
Haven’t seen any news like this from any other outlets.
It was only a few days ago that Eli finally told the story about how it was fully and completely his own decision to reject the Chargers, and I doubt that he has the power to order his nephew to do the same. (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/eli-manning-reveals-why-he-refused-to-play-for-chargers/)
Also, if it became an option, I bet it would be attractive to the entire Manning-family to revive the Manning-to-Harrison connection. It would have a special ring to it.
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Blasphemy I say!! How dare you question a post from K9 who found a source with over 60k followers and "expert" in his handle....LOL
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It says “expert” right there man. Andrew Burd doesn’t have that kind of access.
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I acknowledge that....I didn't mention anything about that "FANTASY" thing that accompanied his "expert" title...ooops
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Burd??? Wasn't he in season 6, episode 12 of the Simpson's?? IIRC
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Yeah, 22 years later. Sorry, I don't believe Eli. And he thought the Chargers were dysfunctional? Hold my beer.
We’ll be 0-3 going into the Giants game week four.
Give him all the first team reps that week and let’s get this over with.
I feel bad for you guys who are fired up about Beck and think he’s really our QBOTF, because the Cardinals have found another way to break your heart.
Give him all the first team reps that week and let’s get this over with.
I feel bad for you guys who are fired up about Beck and think he’s really our QBOTF, because the Cardinals have found another way to break your heart.
Even if he breaks our heart, he'll at least resemble a quarterback while doing it.
