So do we start Beck?

[AZ Native]

We’ll be 0-3 going into the Giants game week four.

Give him all the first team reps that week and let’s get this over with.

I feel bad for you guys who are fired up about Beck and think he’s really our QBOTF, because the Cardinals have found another way to break your heart.

At least we’re not paying him over 1/4 billion dollars.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Even if he breaks our heart, he'll at least resemble a quarterback while doing it.

You know I don’t envy you Brian going through all the trouble of going to the games when our team is so so bad.

I do admire and appreciate you though. God bless you and Mrs BIM and I hope I see you guys at a game this December

And I agree 1000 percent with what Warren moon said about k1. To a guy like me, who works six days a week, and loves what he does, it makes me sick to my stomach to think that Murray wasn’t giving it 100%. It’s shameful, selfish and upsetting.

With all of that said, the fact that CB is 6’4” will provide solace for about 12 seconds after his first interception in week four, and none after his third.

P.s. are you able to see that I changed my status from dangerous Murray zealot to ready for the next chapter? Can you approve that please? Thank you!

 

[Crimson Warrior]

At least we’re not paying him over 1/4 billion dollars.

Just like the fact that Beck is “almost 6’5”,” the fact he’s on a cap friendly deal will be cold comfort when he’s 8 for 20 for 76 yards and three interceptions in his fifth start.

 

[some dumb guy]

Just like the fact that Beck is “almost 6’5”,” the fact he’s on a cap friendly deal will be cold comfort when he’s 8 for 20 for 76 yards and three interceptions in his fifth start.

You're right, I feel much more comfortable now...what's that site? BetMGM?? LOL

 

[kerouac9]

We’ll be 0-3 going into the Giants game week four.

Give him all the first team reps that week and let’s get this over with.

I feel bad for you guys who are fired up about Beck and think he’s really our QBOTF, because the Cardinals have found another way to break your heart.

Putting him in against Brian Burns and Abdul Carter would certainly be a thing to do.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Putting him in against Brian Burns and Abdul Carter would certainly be a thing to do.

I hope I’m dead wrong kerouc9 but QBs who are drafted 5th usually fail, much less 65th.

We’ll see soon enough I’m sure.

 

[Gandhi]

Yeah, 22 years later. Sorry, I don't believe Eli. And he thought the Chargers were dysfunctional? Hold my beer.

Did you read the article? He thought it was a dysfunctional organization because all the decision makers fought internally. I don’t think Bidwill, Ossenfort, LaFleur and other high rank decision makers do that.

By the way, the Saints were an absolute mess in every way before they drafted Archie Manning, including an ownership that treated the organization like a hobby.

The Colts were a full-blown train wreck before they drafted Peyton Manning, including a choleric and impulsive owner.

Both of them were drafted into arguably worse situations than the Cards’.

You could argue that their experiences have scared Eli away from the Chargers, but you could also argue that they have shown that saving a bad franchise can make you a legend.

 

[Stout]

Except the elder Manning is not going to allow Arch to go to AZ. He has already shown he is above the NFL.

Good luck with that garbage privilege attitude, Mannings! My bet is whomever takes Arch, he has to suck it up and actually play there. This is a whole new era in the NFL.

 

[Garthshort]

I can appreciate the way he might feel, but realistically where would he go? Miami? NYJ? Pick your disaster! Keep in mind the Chargers ended up with Phillip Rivers by trading Manning. They also got the Giants 2004 3rd plus their 2005 1st & 5th. There’s no obvious NYG to trade with. I’m not even certain Manning is the best fit for MLF’s offense. Moore would seem a better pocket passer. If the Cards finish first I’m okay with trading him to one of the above letting the Cards take Moore and a 2028 top pick. Let Manning make that happen. The NFL is far more powerful than they were in 2004. They are now the unquestioned premier sport. I think the Mannings will find they have much less leverage.

Harry, just a great post. Thank you.

 

[cardpa]

Good luck with that garbage privilege attitude, Mannings! My bet is whomever takes Arch, he has to suck it up and actually play there. This is a whole new era in the NFL.

Not so much. Manning can refuse to sign with the team that drafted him, sit out a year and re-enter the next year's draft. He certainly will have enough money from NIL to do that and not worry about cash flow. Actually, I'm surprised no college player hasn't already tested that strategy if they are a highly sought after player who has tons of NIL money.

Could it hurt Manning's rep? Possibly, although I can still see some team taking him high in the subsequent draft especially if it's QB poor.

 

[some dumb guy]

Not so much. Manning can refuse to sign with the team that drafted him, sit out a year and re-enter the next year's draft. He certainly will have enough money from NIL to do that and not worry about cash flow. Actually, I'm surprised no college player hasn't already tested that strategy if they are a highly sought after player who has tons of NIL money.

Could it hurt Manning's rep? Possibly, although I can still see some team taking him high in the subsequent draft especially if it's QB poor.

Anything is possible but after Sanders fell down in the draft supposedly due to his poor interviews (attitude?) It's very possible if Arch were to choose to snub the team that drafted him, it's also possible the teams rally and black ball him the following year

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Not so much. Manning can refuse to sign with the team that drafted him, sit out a year and re-enter the next year's draft. He certainly will have enough money from NIL to do that and not worry about cash flow. Actually, I'm surprised no college player hasn't already tested that strategy if they are a highly sought after player who has tons of NIL money.

Could it hurt Manning's rep? Possibly, although I can still see some team taking him high in the subsequent draft especially if it's QB poor.

The problem with the sit-for-a-year-then-re-enter-the-draft strategy is the same teams are usually picking in the top of the draft each year. How hilarious would it be if a player sat out a year just to get drafted by the Jets again?

 

[Shane]

We’ll be 0-3 going into the Giants game week four.

Give him all the first team reps that week and let’s get this over with.

I feel bad for you guys who are fired up about Beck and think he’s really our QBOTF, because the Cardinals have found another way to break your heart.

Don’t feel bad for us… we feel bad that for seven full years you felt KM was actually the answer and actually still feel that way. Lol

 

[Harry]

If you want to see this sit out scenario look up Kelly Stouffer on Wikipedia. The Cards have been there, done that.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Don’t feel bad for us… we feel bad that for seven full years you felt KM was actually the answer and actually still feel that way. Lol

Kyler Murray isn’t the answer to anything except the following trivia question:

“who’s the only NFL quarterback in history to go from first in accuracy on throws over 20 yards in one year to last in accuracy on throws over 20 yards the following year”?

And, Shane, while it’s not impossible he pulls a Jake Plummer and plays well for MIN, if I had to bet on it, I would say he fails because if he does cut it loose and tries to play with max energy he’ll get nicked up.

That was another hugely disappointing issue with Murray is that the slightest contact would put him on the injury report. He’s pretty much made of glass.

Either that or he continues to play like he did for us in 2025.

Even if he does somehow get back to playing something like he did in 2021, what about the fact that he’s super anti clutch when all the chips are in the middle of the table?

I say it’s 1 in 5 he actually leads MIN to a playoff win, and if he does, it will just make me dislike him more because it will be more evidence he half assed while he was here.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it, okay? Don’t blame me for K1 stealing money from us for 2022 - 2025.

 

[maroon]

Well this thread is about the only one I even care to comment on, slow few months. I said we should see based on camp, now I think, unless Beck is completely unready I see no point in anyone else starting, we just need to know where the room stands going into the 2027 draft, to do that I'd want a whole season of Beck not a few last games to see, but that's just me.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Kyler Murray isn’t the answer to anything except the following trivia question:

“who’s the only NFL quarterback in history to go from first in accuracy on throws over 20 yards in one year to last in accuracy on throws over 20 yards the following year”?

And, Shane, while it’s not impossible he pulls a Jake Plummer and plays well for MIN, if I had to bet on it, I would say he fails because if he does cut it loose and tries to play with max energy he’ll get nicked up.

That was another hugely disappointing issue with Murray is that the slightest contact would put him on the injury report. He’s pretty much made of glass.

Either that or he continues to play like he did for us in 2025.

Even if he does somehow get back to playing something like he did in 2021, what about the fact that he’s super anti clutch when all the chips are in the middle of the table?

I say it’s 1 in 5 he actually leads MIN to a playoff win, and if he does, it will just make me dislike him more because it will be more evidence he half assed while he was here.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it, okay? Don’t blame me for K1 stealing money from us for 2022 - 2025.

Can we ironically call out the elephant in the room- Kyler Murray is too short to play in the NFL.

 

[GatorAZ]

Not so much. Manning can refuse to sign with the team that drafted him, sit out a year and re-enter the next year's draft. He certainly will have enough money from NIL to do that and not worry about cash flow. Actually, I'm surprised no college player hasn't already tested that strategy if they are a highly sought after player who has tons of NIL money.

Could it hurt Manning's rep? Possibly, although I can still see some team taking him high in the subsequent draft especially if it's QB poor.

Arch is already 22 he’s not burning a year of his career. BUT, if MLF shows to be in over his head I could see the Manning’s playing hardball if we get the #1 pick.

 

[kerouac9]

Don’t feel bad for us… we feel bad that for seven full years you felt KM was actually the answer and actually still feel that way. Lol

Can we ironically call out the elephant in the room- Kyler Murray is too short to play in the NFL.

We have a Kyler Murray thread if you want to keep engaging is this exhausting back and forth.

 

[Jetstream Green]

We have a Kyler Murray thread if you want to keep engaging is this exhausting back and forth.

Please insert Kyler for Kelly- K Y L E R.

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[Cbus cardsfan]

Manning better play much better if he thinks he's going #1. If he plays like he did last year, he'll be begging the Cards to take him. In round 2.

 

[Stout]

Not so much. Manning can refuse to sign with the team that drafted him, sit out a year and re-enter the next year's draft. He certainly will have enough money from NIL to do that and not worry about cash flow. Actually, I'm surprised no college player hasn't already tested that strategy if they are a highly sought after player who has tons of NIL money.

Could it hurt Manning's rep? Possibly, although I can still see some team taking him high in the subsequent draft especially if it's QB poor.

Yeah, no. He won't.

 

[Stout]

Arch is already 22 he’s not burning a year of his career. BUT, if MLF shows to be in over his head I could see the Manning’s playing hardball if we get the #1 pick.

What hardball is there to play? He would have zero leverage except refusing to sign. He ain't doing that. So, he has zero leverage.

I doubt I'd even want us to draft him anyway, though. He has to prove out like 10x better to be a top QB pick. He's been nowhere near the best.

 

[CFLredzoned]

Did you read the article? He thought it was a dysfunctional organization because all the decision makers fought internally. I don’t think Bidwill, Ossenfort, LaFleur and other high rank decision makers do that.
By the way, the Saints were an absolute mess in every way before they drafted Archie Manning, including an ownership that treated the organization like a hobby.
The Colts were a full-blown train wreck before they drafted Peyton Manning, including a choleric and impulsive owner.
Both of them were drafted into arguably worse situations than the Cards’.

You could argue that their experiences have scared Eli away from the Chargers, but you could also argue that they have shown that saving a bad franchise can make you a legend.

Does it matter why the organization is dysfunctional? Maybe the decision makers aren't fighting internally so much. But there's a dozen other reasons you can attach dysfunctional to the Cardinals.

I don't think the Mannings had the clout they have now until Peyton showed he was an all world QB in the NFL. Archie was pretty good, but not a legendary great.

Harry's argument does make alot of sense. Where else is he going to go? From one mess to a different mess?

 

[kerouac9]

Harry's argument does make alot of sense. Where else is he going to go? From one mess to a different mess?

Pittsburgh is a legit possibility. Miami was once the winningest franchise in the NFL. Tampa could be another option. Atlanta. Minnesota.

When you’re one of the five worst franchises in the NFL you’re looking up at a lot of teams.