How Did the Cards End Up Here?

[DVontel]

we could have taken Burrow or Hebert

We would’ve took Tua lol

 

[Mainstreet]

Lots of quarterbacks available in the upcoming draft.

Going forward, I'm more worried about the decision-making in the front office and coaches.

 

[az jam]

Sadly, I'm on the Harry bandwagon that it is time to make change at qb and trade Murray in the off season. He is tradable and we won't get much for him but it is time to move on. We can speculate on who to draft or sign as a free gent or even trade for but after 7 years we must realize that a change is needed.

 

[Goodyear Card]

If someone is willing to pay his salary I would take a can of beans in trade. I would take the $40M in savings and invest it in the OL and start Brissett.

 

[TK421]

I would go further back and blame Rosen for everything. If he hadn't been such a bum we wouldn't have been desperate enough to waste the next year's first overall pick on another qb.

 

[Harry]

Agreed…and I agree with most of what harry said except Murray being number one coming out….that’s not what I remember ….people was stating his flaws….nobody else would have took him one….the pick should of been bosa

Several people thought Murray wasn’t a clear number one. I can only go by my contacts at that time, but this was when I was involved. The best I can offer is to go to NFL Mock Data Base Consensus, collates dozens of mock drafts. Murray was the top pick. BTW Josh Allen was the most common second choice. Mocks are not scouts but usually several of them are well connected to scouts
Here’s a selection of sources that had him on top
CBS (consensus)
PFF
Walter
Sporting News
NY Post
PFN
Tampa Times
Draft Geek
USA Today
Sports Illustrated
NFL.com
SB Nation
Rotoworld
Bleacher Report
NFL Trade Rumors
NY Daily News
Houston Chronicle
Detroit Free Press
NFL Spin Zone
AJC
Washington Post
Athlon Sports
NBC
Chicago Tribune
247 Sports
Fansided
Forbes
Chicago Sun Times
DraftWire
NFL Draft Blitz

 

[Harry]

Another K1 post crying about drafting him.

Imagine using the actual K1 thread that is pinned at the top of the site.

Not crying, analyzing. Considered tying it to that thread, but it was a more of an effort than just offering an opinion. I apologize if you feel my choice was inappropriate.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

I would go further back and blame Rosen for everything. If he hadn't been such a bum we wouldn't have been desperate enough to waste the next year's first overall pick on another qb.

Lots of people on here wanted us to take Lamar Jackson that year. I wonder how that would have changed the future?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Another K1 post crying about drafting him.

Imagine using the actual K1 thread that is pinned at the top of the site.

another 602 post crying about murray being called out for his own suckage

imagine being so emotional about it you're extra bothered it deserved it's own thread

 

[moosehead]

I don't have the football acumen that many of you have. That said, it's been seven years of waiting a consistently great (or bad) performance. This was "his deciding year" and sure there is a number of factors but he's not shining. He's not leading. Another year of mixed observations. Moments of greatness, lots of moments of non-greatness. Time to move on.

 

[Dayman]

This is how we got here.

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[Crimson Warrior]

This is how we got here.

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Oh Michael Bidwill. You rascal.

 

[pemory09]

No one is trading a late 1st or 2nd for Kyler Murray.

Never underestimate the “genius” of the Cleveland Browns….

 

[602 Native]

This is how we got here.

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Exactly!

People acting like our problems will be cured once we get rid of K1 are in for a very rude awakening.

 

[Harry]

Exactly!

People acting like our problems will be cured once we get rid of K1 are in for a very rude awakening.

Only one step in a journey

 

[SeattleCard]

Well said Harry - appreciate your writing. Spot on. Time to move on from #1.

 

[602 Native]

Only one step in a journey

What journey?

We have been lost at sea since they moved here.

 

[PJ1]

What journey?

We have been lost at sea since they moved here.

And even before.

 

[602 Native]

How did we get here

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

How did we get here

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the cardinals are only as good as their qb - been that way forever - it's why we miss warner and palmer - it's why the majority of the fan base wants to move on from kyler

 

[602 Native]

the cardinals are only as good as their qb - been that way forever - it's why we miss warner and palmer - it's why the majority of the fan base wants to move on from kyler

77 seasons and you point to two seasons to indict the current QB.

Please take a seat.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

77 seasons and you point to two seasons to indict the current QB.

Please take a seat.

this really shouldn't need explaining but a lot of us are arizona cardinal fans - and i didn't indict the current qb - his mediocrity did

 

[netsnjkidd]

What Fitzpatrick said about kyler sliding for 3yds sold it for me. You dont have to be a rah rah guy to be a leader. Your play can show the team and fans you will do what it takes to win. Mahomes is lowering his shoulder for extra yds in September to show his team we are going to be okay, im with yall whatever it takes to win. Kyler sulking and playing scared of any type of contact which leads to these off the back foot throws and always sliding short no matter what im out get him the foh.

 

[pemory09]

How did we get here

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You’re looking at it all wrong Native. Viewed in the right light, we can claim “We’re #1, we’re #1!”

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

And Murray wasn’t drafted into a horrible situation?? Haskins was a mess dude.

Actually, Murray was drafted into an ideal situation and had everything catered to him. Kingsbury ran Murray's high school offense and was the guy the HC wanted.
Haskins was a mess but was drafted because the owner wanted him over the wishes of the HC and the HC was forced to play him. Haskins had plenty of his own demons, but you can't compare the situations they were drafted into.