Cards Trade Request Will Be Met

[ASUCHRIS]

Vikings need a starting QB, and have two quality WRs. Seems like if they Vikings want a QB in the draft, we should hold out for Jefferson.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

No one is giving up 4 firsts

It's only 3, though. The other is a swap.

 

[Proximo]

I would go with the Vikings deal, but I really want to somehow still get Odunze.

There is a lot of other receivers that look good but I am just not going to feel good about our haul without getting one of the top 3.

 

[Proximo]

Good, then we stay at 4.

It's not happening. The signs are obvious and you are in denial.

 

[eastcoastDave]

If Harrison is the best player in this draft as some are saying and he is a potential generational player, I think you have to take him at 4. Remember that most analysts were saying before the last season that the Cards would be drafting first and second this year. How’d that work out? Houston’s pick ended up being in the mid 20s, not No. 2. That could happen again. And again. I just can’t wrap my head around moving away from a potentially great player, only to swap around a bunch of time to take lesser players.

 

[HairZach]

It's not happening. The signs are obvious and you are in denial.

Yep. The amount of salt in gamethreads whenever one of the receivers we do draft drops a ball is going to be unbearable.

 

[Totally_Red]

I would go with the Vikings deal, but I really want to somehow still get Odunze.

There is a lot of other receivers that look good but I am just not going to feel good about our haul without getting one of the top 3.

You also get a third round pick from Minnesota. With FOUR third round picks Monti should have plenty of ammo to trade back up for Odunze.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Three firsts plus is very hard to resist as much as I love MHJ.

Louis Riddick was highly praising McCarthy on ESPN this morning. If New England picks a different qb and McCarthy falls to#4 the Cardinals are going to get a haul from Minnesota or Denver. Hope Monti trades back up like he did last year.

Man, McCarthy just has bust written all over him.

 

[MadCardDisease]

It's only 3, though. The other is a swap.

Yeah that is not how it works.

It's 3 for 1. No one has ever given up 4 first rounders before.

In the classic Trey Lance draft Trade:

49ers got Dolphins 2021 1st

Dolphins got 49ers 2021 1st, 2022 1st and 2023 1st plus a 2022 3rd rounder

 

[gmartin]

If Harrison is the best player in this draft as some are saying and he is a potential generational player, I think you have to take him at 4. Remember that most analysts were saying before the last season that the Cards would be drafting first and second this year. How’d that work out? Houston’s pick ended up being in the mid 20s, not No. 2. That could happen again. And again. I just can’t wrap my head around moving away from a potentially great player, only to swap around a bunch of time to take lesser players.

Agree, don't want to count on any team having a high pick the next two yrs, rather have 2cnd or 3rd round this year.
Don't like Monti playing to many draft games and losing out on top three receivers

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

IMO, that needs to be both 1s in 2024, 2025 1st and 2026 1st. You can't really count one of the 2023 1s, to me...that's a pick swap, not a net positive of 3 1sts.

No one is reporting a net positive 3. They are reporting 3 for 1. That’s what is meant when people are saying they are “offering 3 first round picks.”

 

[oaken1]

Rumor has it... the minnesota Vikings offered Justin Jefferson a contract that would make him one of the two highest paid players in the NFL...note,...not non QB, but highest paid players... but despite the huge financial windfall...apparently Justin Jefferson turned them down.
same rumor mill says he is elbow deep in the vikes QB decision making process....seems if they dont get the right guy Jefferson may want out.
with that kind of pressure it might make him a not zero asset in a trade up.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You also get a third round pick from Minnesota. With FOUR third round picks Monti should have plenty of ammo to trade back up for Odunze.

Should but he has to drop to a pick who is willing to deal. There’s no guarantee of an avenue to trade down and back up. Just because it worked-ish last season doesn’t mean it will again.

 

[Redsz]

It's not happening. The signs are obvious and you are in denial.

Unfortunately agree. All the Cardinals affiliated media have been softening up the fan base to this reality over the last month.

 

[DVontel]

You also get a third round pick from Minnesota. With FOUR third round picks Monti should have plenty of ammo to trade back up for Odunze.

And if nobody trades back with us?

 

[DVontel]

It's not happening. The signs are obvious and you are in denial.

So why hasn’t it happened yet?

 

[MadCardDisease]

So why hasn’t it happened yet?

If a trade happens, it probably won't go down until draft day.

 

[DVontel]

If a trade happens, it probably won't go down until draft day.

Why is that though?

I would understand if we were at #5 instead of #4.

 

[Hoodhero]

So it's written in stone that Giants taking JJ McCarthy @ 6 if available over additional draft picks to trade down?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Why is that though?

I would understand if we were at #5 instead of #4.

Because they want to see who falls to #4 first. If you only like 2 of the 3 QBs who are not named Williams, you don't want to be stuck there at #4 with a QB you don't totally believe in.

 

[DVontel]

Because they want to see who falls to #4 first. If you only like 2 of the 3 QBs who are not named Williams, you don't want to be stuck there at #4 with a QB you don't totally believe in.

I can’t imagine them acquiring two 1st rounders just to be hesitant on drafting either of them.

 

[PACardsFan]

That depends if the Chargers really want to move back. I honestly don't believe they're going to let their promising young franchise QB throw to an absolute trash receiving corps and just run the ball with Gus Edwards.

Don’t forget that you’re talking about Jim Harbaugh. He has already emphatically stated that he wants the Chargers to be the nastiest, meanest team in the NFL. I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t take an OL to protect the very QB who has been injured in each of the last 2 seasons. I think Harbaugh wants to do what the Cardinals did last year. He’ll maximize his draft picks and use 2024 as a year to evaluate what he has on his roster.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I can’t imagine them acquiring two 1st rounders just to be hesitant on drafting either of them.

Still if I'm the Cardinals I'm in no hurry to make a deal. The closer it gets to the draft the more desperate teams without a QB will get.

 

[TRW]

2 weeks from today we will all know for sure one way or another.

 

[Solar7]

Don’t forget that you’re talking about Jim Harbaugh. He has already emphatically stated that he wants the Chargers to be the nastiest, meanest team in the NFL. I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t take an OL to protect the very QB who has been injured in each of the last 2 seasons. I think Harbaugh wants to do what the Cardinals did last year. He’ll maximize his draft picks and use 2024 as a year to evaluate what he has on his roster.

I do get where you're coming from, but Harbaugh actually hasn't drafted an OL in the first before.

It seems like coachspeak/a smokescreen to me. I know these conversations are had ahead of time, but if we move back and try to move forward, I could see us being caught flat footed.