2023 1st round pick is #6 Paris Johnson

[oaken1]

Couple good options at tackle in the coming draft as well. Not sure if that would be an option , probably depends on where those picks end up. I still believe Hump would be a guy to keep around but I think he would be really great if he kicked inside to guard.

Hey... if kyler shows out this season...but we end up with picks 3 and 5...

MHJ + Best LT in the draft is a huge fuggin win for me.

 

[Garthshort]

Hey... if kyler shows out this season...but we end up with picks 3 and 5...

MHJ + Best LT in the draft is a huge fuggin win for me.

Wouldn't be unhappy with the above, but would prefer a DL.

 

[Sparky16]

Wouldn't be unhappy with the above, but would prefer a DL.

IDK - heard rumors of Viking interest in Kyler and now Dallas maybe done with Prescott. This team is going to be bad. I want the top 2 picks with the #2 being traded for even more capital.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Hey... if kyler shows out this season...but we end up with picks 3 and 5...

MHJ + Best LT in the draft is a huge fuggin win for me.

That’s kinda where I’m at. Unless there’s a Bruce smith/Reggie white sitting there. Build a dominant offense and then have top (hopefully) coaches coach up the defense to middle of the pack.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

IDK - heard rumors of Viking interest in Kyler and now Dallas maybe done with Prescott. This team is going to be bad. I want the top 2 picks with the #2 being traded for even more capital.

If kyler is traded we will want to hang onto those top two picks to nab a QB and Harrison jr (unless we can trade a single slot to a QB hungry team and still grab Harrison jr).

 

[kerouac9]

I’m not clear on the scenario where Kyler balls out and we still end up 4-13. How does that work?

 

[CardNots]

Personally with a great OL you will be able to pass and run without overpaying the RB and QB positions.

 

[kerouac9]

Personally with a great OL you will be able to pass and run without overpaying the RB and QB positions.

Run? Yes.

I’d be interested in the example of a great OL propping up a bad QB.

 

[CardNots]

Run? Yes.

I’d be interested in the example of a great OL propping up a bad QB.

Who said bad QB? Think serviceable.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I’m not clear on the scenario where Kyler balls out and we still end up 4-13. How does that work?

If the Cardinals Defense is really bad it's possible that Kyler loses a bunch of shootouts?

 

[kerouac9]

Who said bad QB? Think serviceable.

What's your example?

If the Cardinals Defense is really bad it's possible that Kyler loses a bunch of shootouts?

So we're going to lose games 35-7 for the first 6-8 weeks of the season and then lose them 35-28 at the end of the season? Isn't the idea that good coaching makes the difference in tight games? How do you have ++ QB play and ++ coaching and still end up with a top 3 pick.

 

[Chopper0080]

I am not opposed with the idea of adding a LT in next year's class. I don't know that we will be in a position to, but I like the players. And I would enjoy the Cardinals having a quality OL.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I'd rather draft well on offense (WR, OL, etc) and then get a couple of really good defenders in FA, even if it's an overpay.

 

[MadCardDisease]

So we're going to lose games 35-7 for the first 6-8 weeks of the season and then lose them 35-28 at the end of the season? Isn't the idea that good coaching makes the difference in tight games? How do you have ++ QB play and ++ coaching and still end up with a top 3 pick.

I don't think that will happen. You asked how it could happen and I gave a possible scenario.

 

[TheCardFan]

I am not opposed with the idea of adding a LT in next year's class. I don't know that we will be in a position to, but I like the players. And I would enjoy the Cardinals having a quality OL.

Are we thinking Paris can't play LT?

Feels like he would slide to LT and we would draft RT and/or G.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Are we thinking Paris can't play LT?

Feels like he would slide to LT and we would draft RT and/or G.

Ideally you keep a guy at the position he is playing well at and you bring in someone else to fill the other side. RT to LT isn't a super easy transition and there is no guarantee that it would be successful.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Are we thinking Paris can't play LT?

Feels like he would slide to LT and we would draft RT and/or G.

I think it comes down to where he performs best. If he looks like an all pro at RT, leave him there. Just go back and read the article about Tristan Wirfs, to have an idea of why it's not always easy to move them from one side to the other.

 

[football karma]

Hey... if kyler shows out this season...but we end up with picks 3 and 5...

MHJ + Best LT in the draft is a huge fuggin win for me.

i think that if Kyler shows out -- and lets say thats for 10 games

i think they win enough games to be lower in the draft than 5 --- and further, it probably means DJ Humphries played pretty well too

 

[Garthshort]

If we really are tanking, and with so many good teams struggling on their OL's, I can see us trading Hump in the near future. He will get us a pretty good return. I'm hoping it doesn't happen. And in order for it to happen, they would probably have to see Paris at LT, this week or next.

 

[TheCardFan]

Ideally you keep a guy at the position he is playing well at and you bring in someone else to fill the other side. RT to LT isn't a super easy transition and there is no guarantee that it would be successful.

I think it comes down to where he performs best. If he looks like an all pro at RT, leave him there. Just go back and read the article about Tristan Wirfs, to have an idea of why it's not always easy to move them from one side to the other.

I would argue its still harder to find a true LT (blindside) than RT.

The difference is Wirfs only played RT in college - big switch to LT in the pro's.

Paris played LT and never played RT - we are making him make the same switch as Wirfs as a rookie.

 

[lobo]

If we really are tanking, and with so many good teams struggling on their OL's, I can see us trading Hump in the near future. He will get us a pretty good return. I'm hoping it doesn't happen. And in order for it to happen, they would probably have to see Paris at LT, this week or next.

Here is what I don't get at all. If the marching orders to all concerned are discipline, order, attention to detail etc etc how does management make player moves that are obvious "tanking" moves. Can the team lose an ungodly amount of games...no doubt however it will not be a result of tanking, it will be the overall quality of the other guys versus our guys. Do you think a whole bunch of "Young Turks" joining an organization as they are attempting to better themselves in new positions, wouod come in to be part of a tanking party....no way. That is not how a career building program starts in my opinion. If you need a paycheck, been around the block many times, yeah sign me up.

 

[Stout]

Are we thinking Paris can't play LT?

Feels like he would slide to LT and we would draft RT and/or G.

Exactly. Otherwise we spent #6 in the draft on a mere RT? Nah.

 

[kerouac9]

I would argue its still harder to find a true LT (blindside) than RT.

The difference is Wirfs only played RT in college - big switch to LT in the pro's.

Paris played LT and never played RT - we are making him make the same switch as Wirfs as a rookie.

He mostly played RG in college and had a season at LT.

 

[QuebecCard]

Exactly. Otherwise we spent #6 in the draft on a mere RT? Nah.

No such thing in today's game.

 

[BritCard]

He mostly played RG in college and had a season at LT.

He played 1 season at RG and 1 at LT. But if we're going to be technical he mostly played LT by about 40 snaps.