Froholdt

[Ronin]

Mr. Smart Alec, please enlighten me with another Cardinal draft that not only secured 9 picks, but then set us up to own the 2024 draft?

Stop the name calling.

 

[kerouac9]

Mr. Smart Alec, please enlighten me with another Cardinal draft that not only secured 9 picks, but then set us up to own the 2024 draft?

Quantity should not be the sole or primary measure of the quality of a draft. It's hilarious to put that out there before anyone has even taken a snap in rookie camp.

 

[BritCard]

Quantity should not be the sole or primary measure of the quality of a draft. It's hilarious to put that out there before anyone has even taken a snap in rookie camp.

He can think it's the best based on current available evidence no?

That might change as more info becomes available.

 

[PACardsFan]

Quantity should not be the sole or primary measure of the quality of a draft. It's hilarious to put that out there before anyone has even taken a snap in rookie camp.

I did say “perhaps”. Did I not? Of course it will always be contingent upon how drafts play out. But, creating an extra 1st, 2 extra 3rd’s, and and an extra 5th has never been done by this organization in my lifetime.

 

[gmabel830]

Mr. Smart Alec, please enlighten me with another Cardinal draft that not only secured 9 picks, but then set us up to own the 2024 draft?

I think it's premature to call the draft the best ever, ahead of say the Fitz/Dockett/Dansby draft, when we've never seen these guys in the NFL before and have no idea how they will use the future picks. I'd say it in a more polite way though.

 

[Harry]

Getting Murray under center behind a guy who allowed 7 sacks last season is a recipe for disaster unless they want Murray to fail.

 

[kerouac9]

He can think it's the best based on current available evidence no?

That might change as more info becomes available.

There is no evidence.

 

[PACardsFan]

I think it's premature to call the draft the best ever, ahead of say the Fitz/Dockett/Dansby draft, when we've never seen these guys in the NFL before and have no idea how they will use the future picks. I'd say it in a more polite way though.

Cmon folks, please read thoroughly before commenting. Did I not say “Perhaps”? The Fitz draft was a very good one, but it certainly didn’t set up the following draft with an extra 1st, 2 extra 3rd’s, and an extra 5th.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

There is no evidence.

Then there is no evidence for you to laugh at his belief right?

 

[gmabel830]

Cmon folks, please read thoroughly before commenting. Did I not say “Perhaps”? The Fitz draft was a very good one, but it certainly didn’t set up the following draft with an extra 1st, 2 extra 3rd’s, and an extra 5th.

Even with the qualifier, I still think it's a stretch to even use the phrase. Maybe it's just the way you phrased it. I think it's a fair argument to say this draft might have generated the most value for our picks compared to any draft we have had, but it remains to be seen if that pick value generated translates into it ending up being a good draft or bad draft. That's probably how you meant it and I'm just splitting hairs.

 

[QuebecCard]

Quantity should not be the sole or primary measure of the quality of a draft. It's hilarious to put that out there before anyone has even taken a snap in rookie camp.

Equally hilarious is the panning of this draft class before even taking a snap in rookie camp.

 

[BritCard]

There is no evidence.

Their college careers aren't evidence? The 2024 picks aren't evidence?

 

[gmabel830]

Back on topic, I think Froholdt will start the season as the starting center, even though I don't think he should start the season as the starting center.

 

[gmabel830]

Their college careers aren't evidence?

Not that these players will contribute to being the best draft ever... perhaps

 

[QuebecCard]

Getting Murray under center behind a guy who allowed 7 sacks last season is a recipe for disaster unless they want Murray to fail.

The Harry theme.

If and it's a big IF - Froholdt is the starting centre come September, he'll have beat out 2, or 3 contenders.

 

[BritCard]

Would everyone be happy if he said "This is the best I've felt about a draft immediately following it's conclusion"?

That's what I took from it.

 

[gmabel830]

Would everyone be happy if he said "This is the best I've felt about a draft immediately following it's conclusion"?

That's what I took from it.

Yeah, I think he meant that more than how it literally came out.

 

[Goodyear Card]

Mr. Smart Alec, please enlighten me with another Cardinal draft that not only secured 9 picks, but then set us up to own the 2024 draft?

Lets see how many of those draft picks are starters?

 

[kerouac9]

Lets see how many of those draft picks are starters?

Or even contributors. A great draft yields you three quality starters (meaning they'd at least be rotational players for a good team) in year one. A legendary draft gets you four.

The 2004 draft generated one likely hall of famer and three other players that got second contracts with the team (Dansby, Dockett, Antonio Smith). We'll be fortunate to get that with the picks we made and the ones we got in trades.

 

[Goodyear Card]

Back on topic, I think Froholdt will start the season as the starting center, even though I don't think he should start the season as the starting center.

Froholdt can't be our starting center. He just can't. We have to find some else. He is not even a good backup. He is barely a NFL player. We must sign a free agent or a trade. Anything. Anything. I would have been happy if we signed an UDFA center.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Or even contributors. A great draft yields you three quality starters (meaning they'd at least be rotational players for a good team) in year one. A legendary draft gets you four.

The 2004 draft generated one likely hall of famer and three other players that got second contracts with the team (Dansby, Dockett, Antonio Smith). We'll be fortunate to get that with the picks we made and the ones we got in trades.

This draft and its trades gave us the best chance to have a great or legendary draft with all of the picks we acquired. How much credit for this draft do you assign to next year's draft assuming it is successful? If you have to wait for next draft to happen to see the picks that we acquire, even then you shouldn't laugh at the notion.

 

[Stout]

The Harry theme.

If and it's a big IF - Froholdt is the starting centre come September, he'll have beat out 2, or 3 contenders.

Meaning nothing, especially if we have nothingburgers for him to contend against. I for one would be very disappointed to see this outcome. I'm sure Kyler would be too.

 

[Stout]

Back on topic, I think Froholdt will start the season as the starting center, even though I don't think he should start the season as the starting center.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Froholdt is a Player/Coach now? 4th round serviceable Guard/crappy Center teaching another 4th round serviceable Guard how to be a crappy Center?

 

[kerouac9]

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This draft and its trades gave us the best chance to have a great or legendary draft with all of the picks we acquired. How much credit for this drafted do you assign to next year's draft assuming it is successful? If you have to wait for next draft to happen to see the picks that we acquire, even then you shouldn't laugh at the notion.

You don’t know this; no one does.

Why can’t we just wait to see how many draft picks make the team and then if the team is any good before making any pronouncements?