Hopkins Wants Out?

[JohnnyCakes]

You mean against the team that won the Superbowl and most knew we had no shot beforehand based on the way we closed the regular season...? That performance? Yes, he sucked. But that whole team was outmatched..you saw it clearly on just about every single snap. Maybe you should let that one go johnny.

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[Totally_Red]

1. The body language between DHop and Murray is ugly. The confrontation on the sideline in Kyler's last game and DHop's tendency to not even return to the huddle are the outward signs. And DHop"s effusive praise of McCoy to one of the announce teams makes it even more obvious.

2. If Michael had not foolishly extended Kingsbury, there is a 100% chance he'd be fired on Black Monday. As it now sits it is probably only 99%. Both sides want a divorce; only issue is how much Kliff gets in the settlement.

3. Murray's contract makes him untradeable period. No amount of speculating or dreaming changes that reality.

 

[Dayman]

I dont think i have ever witnessed a poorer performance from a qb than Kyler Murray last year vs the Rams in the playoffs.

passer rating of 40.9 with 137 yards and 2 interceptions

Kyler is a junk time bum slayer.

If there is one tiny shred of a chance a team would trade for him you do it.

Also-- side note-- yes i agree he was effective until teams blitzed him and exposed his atrocious decision making

Did you miss the 2016 NFC Championship game where Carson threw 4 picks and lost 2 fumbles?

 

[TRW]

I dont think i have ever witnessed a poorer performance from a qb than Kyler Murray last year vs the Rams in the playoffs.

passer rating of 40.9 with 137 yards and 2 interceptions

Kyler is a junk time bum slayer.

If there is one tiny shred of a chance a team would trade for him you do it.

Also-- side note-- yes i agree he was effective until teams blitzed him and exposed his atrocious decision making

Ryan Lindley had a 44.3 rating, in his first (and only) playoff appearance. Yes, better than KM.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Did you miss the 2016 NFC Championship game where Carson threw 4 picks and lost 2 fumbles?

i have that as a close second. That one may have hurt even more because of how good they were that year. Im fully convinced he was playing hurt ( finger/throwing hand)

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Ryan Lindley had a 44.3 rating, in his first (and only) playoff appearance. Yes, better than KM.

thats out of this world crazy.

 

[TRW]

thats out of this world crazy.

Especially since you consider Lindley was signed off the street and didn't have an entire season with the team. It's a meaningless comparison and KM is certainly more talented than Lindley was but it is out there.

 

[Mark22]

This site amazes me sometimes.

If players are openly pissed about losing, they are bad teammates and want out.

If players are not openly pissed about losing, they are bad teammates and want out.

Spot on! Everybody are mind readers

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

There is a certain amount of Kyler derangement syndrome that has now manifested itself into Lindley comparisons.

It’s really okay just to say the kid had a bad year.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Especially since you consider Lindley was signed off the street and didn't have an entire season with the team. It's a meaningless comparison and KM is certainly more talented than Lindley was but it is out there.

KM is more talented than Lindley athletically --- no doubt.

I question whether KM has a better football IQ though

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

KM is more talented than Lindley athletically --- no doubt.

I question whether KM has a better football IQ though

Good lord

 

[Jetstream Green]

I dont think i have ever witnessed a poorer performance from a qb than Kyler Murray last year vs the Rams in the playoffs.

passer rating of 40.9 with 137 yards and 2 interceptions

Kyler is a junk time bum slayer.

If there is one tiny shred of a chance a team would trade for him you do it.

Also-- side note-- yes i agree he was effective until teams blitzed him and exposed his atrocious decision making

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[Stout]

There is a certain amount of Kyler derangement syndrome that has now manifested itself into Lindley comparisons.

It’s really okay just to say the kid had a bad year.

Somebody argued the playoff loss wasn't so bad, so showing that Lindley was better in his one playoff appearance was apt. Nobody put Lindley above Kyler, now. You know this.

 

[Stout]

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Lindley was better in his playoff game. Sorry not sorry.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

this board can be really dumb sometimes.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Somebody argued the playoff loss wasn't so bad, so showing that Lindley was better in his one playoff appearance was apt. Nobody put Lindley above Kyler, now. You know this.

Someone said Lindley has a higher football IQ than a two time Pro Bowler and Heisman trophy winner.

 

[unseenaz]

Someone said Lindley has a higher football IQ than a two time Pro Bowler and Heisman trophy winner.

I heard he never lost a high school football game either

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Sure why the heck leave nuk would be the icing on this beyond shiatty season

He gone, my dude. Why would he want to stay here? He's not getting younger, wants to get paid, and he wants to win. The writing is on the wall.

I'm pissed about it too. He's one of the most incredible receivers we've had here, and we've had some damn good ones. The franchise is failing these players, not the other way around.

 

[Chopper0080]

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To be fair everytime there is a regime change within an organization high priced players become potential trade candidates. It isn't as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Same reason people were asking about Brian Burns.

 

[Chopper0080]

I heard he never lost a high school football game either

Banned

 

[QuebecCard]

If I’m reading it right Hopkins is still owed $22 mil+ bonus. That would all come due next year if he’s traded. I don’t see the Cards eating that much. These players want the big money but don‘t seem understand the implications. To eat that much bonus, I’d want 2 number ones which I doubt anyone would pay.

The money is paid. This is accounting under the Cap. The cards take a $22m dead money hit but add his salary ($8m) to their available Cap in 2023. As soon as it's known that Dhop is being shopped, the price goes down. It's a buyer, not a seller's market. The Cards won't get a #1, let alone two. If moving on is the plan, they'll take the highest bid and move on.

If KM is out for the first few months of the season, there's no compelling football reason to keep him at this point.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

there's no compelling football reason to keep him at this point.

Other than the fact we've been much better with him, and it's another gigantic hole to fill, yeah.

 

[Finito]

Let the Hopkins is a bum talk start

 

[kerouac9]

I'll never understand people obsessed with getting rid of our best players in a losing season.

The key is to keep your best players and surround them with better players. This team isn't going to improve taking a 1/100 shot on finding a better safety than Budda Baker; it's going to improve by taking a 3:4 shot at finding a better DL than Leki Fotu.