The Trade Deadline thread

[BritCard]

Not being able to count on Kyler to play at a league average level this year was not something I was expecting.

This is the problem. It's not that there are no other problems, but they pale into insignificance compared to this.

It's like complaining about your wife's cooking when she's boning your brother.

 

[blindseyed]

Can we get some info on who advised Bidwill to give out extensions worth six years? There must be an external advisor right?

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[Arz101]

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There is an outside advisor right? Every owner has one. If not, did Bidwill looked in the mirror and said to myself "Got a new stadium and few winning seasons, a franchise QB. I am awesome"

 

[Totally_Red]

I could see TB acquiring Hudson for 4th or 5th round pick. Is it worth it?

 

[BigRedRage]

if we are involved in trades, it should be to build draft capital to watch Keim waste on WRs and ILBS.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

If Bidwill is going to do all this by himself without input, atleast he should hire a witch who watches football on Sundays to advise him. Advise would be "my child, stop talking about six year extensions..."

Wasn't it technically a 5 year extension and they already had one year left on the previous deal?

 

[Zalixar]

I could see TB acquiring Hudson for 4th or 5th round pick. Is it worth it?

Hudson is close to being useless, so yes.

Another homerun for Keim.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I could see TB acquiring Hudson for 4th or 5th round pick. Is it worth it?

Yes. His heart and his body doesn't seem to be in it anymore. Likely retires next year anyway.

 

[TheCardFan]

Hudson is close to being useless, so yes.

Another homerun for Keim.

You can criticize his drafting but his trade game is strong.

I can assure you that I am not a fan of Keim.

 

[Dayman]

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[DaHilg]

Wild if we don’t make a move one way or another - seller or buyer. Will just reinforce the delusional views of the front office - still thinking the ship will just right itself .

 

[Totally_Red]

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Huge get for Baltimore.

 

[Zalixar]

You can criticize his drafting but his trade game is strong.

I can assure you that I am not a fan of Keim.

Sure, but I am specifically commenting on this one, which was bad.

 

[BritCard]

Huge get for Baltimore.

Smith is madly overrated

 

[Gandhi]

You can't "easily" manipulate it year after year. It's a myth.

It's like your domestic finances. You can borrow a bit here and save a bit there to get by. And if you stop there you can be ok. You never get even, but you can manage the debt. This is the Steve Keim way.

But when you start borrowing from one bank to pay the interest on another loan, then your into the loan sharks to pay off the banks it eventually comes crashing down. You can look flush for a while while the debt is piling up, but before long you're living in a cardboard box.

And that's where the Saints are going into next year and it's where the Rams are heading.

There's no magic trick. There is a set cap each year (consider it income) and if you're borrowing now from future income the time comes when you have to tighten your belt and live on baked beans.

Sorry, BritCard, but you are simply not basing your arguments on facts.

First, if you read the CBA you will see that the salary cap is based on revenue, and unless you believe that the revenue (especially TV deals) will suddenly start to plummet (for the first time probably ever), the salary cap will continue rising. This year the salary cap is up 25.7 million from 2021, and the amount has gone up ten years in a row.

Second, there is the history. DaHilg has already explained in this thread how you can look at the Saints and the Rams as the best examples.

As you see, your analogy about domestic finances makes sense from a theoretical standpoint, but since the salary cap goes up so much each year, it makes no sense to talk about it as a tool that restrict teams from doing business. If your salary increased 12-16% each year - and you knew with almost certainty that it would continue to happen for the next many, many years - your budget for domestic finances would be a lot easier to make.

It is a ghost to talk about the salary cap as anything else than a bad excuse.

 

[Arz101]

Realistically, if Cardinals are selling (minus DHop, Jalen, Budda, Hollywood Brown, Allen,Murray, Humphries) what do they have that could get even a third rounder?

 

[Dback Jon]

Well it's always going to take a new player coming in a couple of weeks to even vaguely get the playbook down which is why the trade would only even make sense if Hollywood was out all season and not 4-6 weeks.

Laughs in Christian McCaffery

 

[Stout]

You can criticize his drafting but his trade game is strong.

I can assure you that I am not a fan of Keim.

Not so strong recently, though. They fleeced us in the Hudson trade, for one.

 

[Chopper0080]

Not so strong recently, though. They fleeced us in the Hudson trade, for one.

Ertz looks bad. Hudson bad. Robbie Anderson bad. Cody Ford bad. Mullen has been a zero.

None of these trades has really led to any sort of improvement.

 

[Chopper0080]

Beachum is another player we should unload. Would give the Cardinals another look at Jones at RT which they need to see. Same with Ertz and McBride.

 

[football karma]

Beachum is another player we should unload.

probably some value there too.

 

[football karma]

Ertz looks bad. Hudson bad. Robbie Anderson bad. Cody Ford bad. Mullen has been a zero.

None of these trades has really led to any sort of improvement.

i think Ertz has been fine and Ford just "ok"

Hudson has been bad. He went from always plays to regularly injured.

Mullen is invisible ( did he have any snaps yesterday?)

Anderson? can't believe he didnt get more time yesterday

 

[Shane]

Yea I def don’t see Ertz as bad. That’s a head scratcher.

 

[Totally_Red]

Yea I def don’t see Ertz as bad. That’s a head scratcher.

Trade was good. The contract is very generous IMO.

 

[kerouac9]

Ertz looks bad. Hudson bad. Robbie Anderson bad. Cody Ford bad. Mullen has been a zero.

None of these trades has really led to any sort of improvement.

Ertz looks fine to me.