Dennis Gardeck - 2nd round tender

[Chopper0080]

Had not seen this yet

 

[Jetstream Green]

Every time I see him on the field I doubt him and he keeps producing. I will say though that attitude will not be a problem up front with Gardeck, Golden and Watt

 

[Ronin]

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[Syracusecards]

Every time I see him on the field I doubt him and he keeps producing. I will say though that attitude will not be a problem up front with Gardeck, Golden and Watt

this exactly.

 

[Chopper0080]

Second-round tender: One-year contract worth the greater of (a) $3.259 million or (b) 110 percent of the player's prior-year base salary. Draft-choice compensation: second-round pick.

Interesting decision based upon the injury he suffered. My guess is they see a larger role for Gardeck.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Gardeck!!!!

 

[juza76]

Deserved
he will share snaps with golden, beside that we need to draft a young pass rusher, very likely next year

 

[slanidrac16]

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I like!

 

[Chopper0080]

The stretch explanation is that Keim saw Gardeck as a cheaper version of what Haason Reddick does best. Sub package, situational pass rusher. Essentially, Golden at 4.5 and Gardeck at 3.2 was viewed as better than Reddick at an amount greater than that. My guess is that Reddick is asking for around the 13 mil mark, and the Cardinals did not believe the market was going to be that high and is letting him see if he can find it.

 

[Zeem_Freeze]

WHAT IS GOOD, GARDECK?!?! - wolfy voice

 

[BritCard]

This suggests a much bigger role for Gardeck next year.

His 7 sacks make his role seem bigger than it was. He only had 2 games with more than 10 snaps. He only played 94 snaps and 25 of them came in the Eagles game he hurt himself.

Happy for him. Great dude.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The stretch explanation is that Keim saw Gardeck as a cheaper version of what Haason Reddick does best. Sub package, situational pass rusher. Essentially, Golden at 4.5 and Gardeck at 3.2 was viewed as better than Reddick at an amount greater than that. My guess is that Reddick is asking for around the 13 mil mark, and the Cardinals did not believe the market was going to be that high and is letting him see if he can find it.

but it’s Gardeck coming off an end of season ACL. Expecting the same player back this year is classic Keim Cardinals thinking.

 

[HairZach]

but it’s Gardeck coming off an end of season ACL. Expecting the same player back this year is classic Keim Cardinals thinking.

ACL treatment has gotten a lot better in recent years. I used to think of it as a career ender but now it seems like its more common for players to bounce back the next year.

 

[Cheesebeef]

ACL treatment has gotten a lot better in recent years. I've seen so many players go down with ACL tears and come back the next year without missing a beat. I used to think of it as a career ender.

okay. Can you name some of these players. Preferably ones that tore their ACLs in late December so we can gauge recovery time?

ACL’s aren’t career enders anymore. But guy’s aren’t normally anywhere near full health that first year. Especially players that depend on quick bursts like Gardeck does. And the fact that it happened so late in the season gives even less recovery time.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

okay. Can you name some of these players. Preferably ones that tore their ACLs in late December so we can gauge recovery time?

ACL’s aren’t career enders anymore. But guy’s aren’t normally anywhere near full health that first year. Especially players that depend on quick bursts like Gardeck does. And the fact that it happened so late in the season gives even less recovery time.

Yes, ACL's have gone from a career ender to a mostly routine procedure, but you're absolutely right, can anyone name a good percentage of players coming back from an end of the year ACL and performing as well or better the next year? My guess is it's a short list.

It's an awfully big number for a guy who might not be ready for the start of the season, and who likely won't be the same player he was last year.

 

[Proximo]

This suggests a much bigger role for Gardeck next year.

His 7 sacks make his role seem bigger than it was. He only had 2 games with more than 10 snaps. He only played 94 snaps and 25 of them came in the Eagles game he hurt himself.

Happy for him. Great dude.

Can someone explain to me why they think 3 million a year is enough for Gardeck, but that we should pay Reddick 15 million a year for 12 sacks - when he played a ton more snaps to get his.

Neither player is the ideal size or strength to play OLB.

I am actually worried cards will lose Gardeck with this low of an offer.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Can someone explain to me why they think 3 million a year is enough for Gardeck, but that we should pay Reddick 15 million a year for 12 sacks - when he played a ton more snaps to get his.

Neither player is the ideal size or strength to play OLB.

I am actually worried cards will lose Gardeck with this low of an offer.

can you explain to me why you consistently lie about other people’s opinions on what Reddick should have been offered? All the Reddick people eventually wanted him to get the transition tag, which wasn’t 15 million dollars.

also, can you tell me why you create false narratives like the above making it seem as if Reddick and Gardeck’s output was reasonably similar despite the fact that Reddick was 2nd in the entire league in OVERALL TFLs blowing away Gardeck there, not to mention 5 sacks different AND both of Reddick’s knees are in tact?

 

[Chopper0080]

but it’s Gardeck coming off an end of season ACL. Expecting the same player back this year is classic Keim Cardinals thinking.

I agree. As I said, interesting/odd decision.

 

[Chopper0080]

Can someone explain to me why they think 3 million a year is enough for Gardeck, but that we should pay Reddick 15 million a year for 12 sacks - when he played a ton more snaps to get his.

Neither player is the ideal size or strength to play OLB.

I am actually worried cards will lose Gardeck with this low of an offer.

I will take a 2nd round pick for an undersized LB coming off an ACL injury every day of the week. The Cardinals did obviously get some intel that teams would be sniffing around him which prompted the higher tender.

 

[Reddog]

Smart move. I doubt anyone grabs him and even if we have to put him PUP it keeps him under wraps tile he heals up.

 

[Proximo]

can you explain to me why you consistently lie about other people’s opinions on what Reddick should have been offered? All the Reddick people eventually wanted him to get the transition tag, which wasn’t 15 million dollars.

also, can you tell me why you create false narratives like the above making it seem as if Reddick and Gardeck’s output was reasonably similar despite the fact that Reddick was 2nd in the entire league in OVERALL TFLs blowing away Gardeck there, not to mention 5 sacks different AND both of Reddick’s knees are in tact?

I'm not making up what people want to offer him. There are posts today of people saying we should pay him 15 million in other threads.

We are never going to agree obviously. Reddick is at 235 is a desperation play at olb. I would never pay big money for a guy with no true position like him.

Not saying Gardeck is ideal either - but honestly I rate them as about the same value as a player.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I will take a 2nd round pick for an undersized LB coming off an ACL injury every day of the week. The Cardinals did obviously get some intel that teams would be sniffing around him which prompted the higher tender.

I think you often give the Cardinals too much credit, re: them getting intel.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm not making up what people want to offer him. There are posts today of people saying we should pay him 15 million in other threads.

We are never going to agree obviously. Reddick is at 235 is a desperation play at olb. I would never pay big money for a guy with no true position like him.

Not saying Gardeck is ideal either - but honestly I rate them as about the same value as a player.

So, you think a healthy Gardeck has the potential to EVER be 2nd in league in TFL? that’s laughable.

also please go show me people today that are saying Reddick should be getting 15 million per year. Otherwise, stop lying about other’s arguments to make your weak ones look stronger.

 

[Proximo]

but it’s Gardeck coming off an end of season ACL. Expecting the same player back this year is classic Keim Cardinals thinking.

Have you seen this video of Beckham? https://nypost.com/2021/03/11/odell-beckham-jr-posts-insane-workout-video-amid-recovery/

Recovery times have improved. I think Gardeck will be back by mid season.

 

[Chopper0080]

I think you often give the Cardinals too much credit, re: them getting intel.

Could be. I just know that teams usually offer tenders based upon the rest of the league's view of their players.