Dennis Gardeck - 2nd round tender

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  1. BigRedRage

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    Gardeck is the GOAT underdog.
     
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    you found 1... from 7 years ago. Congrats.

    and i didn't say prove me wrong. Someone else said there's plenty of guys who have come back from an ACL and been good the following the season. THEN, I asked THEM for proof to back up their statement.

    but hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a good argument.
     
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    I forgot about the ACL because they tried to hide it for two weeks. I’m guess PUP to start.
     
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    Adrian Peterson tore his in December and did not miss a game the next season and rushed for over 2000 yards.

    DeShawn Warton tore his in November and didn't miss a start the next season and hasn't missed a game due to injury since.
     
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    Those are two of the most motivated freak athletes this generation. Not that Dennis isn't, but he's not any of those guys.
     
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    Hmm that’s unfortunately what I expected. Hope gardeck is an exception, but counting on it is folly.
     
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    Tyrann Mathieu started the season on time in 2015 after testing his ACL December of 2014.

    He missed 3 in 2012 after tearing it in 2011. Every injury is different.
     
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    yeah... AP who has proven to be a complete freak of nature. That makes me feel better about Gardeck. He definitely gives me those vibes.

    QBs are a different beast than any other position, IMO. They are grinding and smashing into people or running full speed on every possession.
     
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    Without the age of the players, this study isn't great. Younger players recover better and faster than older players.
     
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    The problem is, each body is different. RGIII was not the same player after and he and Watson played similar styles. We won't know until we know and it a risk, but it's a cheap risk.
     
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    you have your years wrong. Mathieu tore his ACL in 2013, when he was sick, a dynamic force on the field and looking like a ROY candidate. He wasn't anything near the same player in 2014, when he missed three games, and his stats all plummeted from the previous year.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/26692/

    It took him TWO years to come back and be a superstar again in 2015. Then, he he tore his ACL again and then was so middling for two years after that, that we cut him and he didn't regain form with the Chiefs until he went through ANOTHER team,.

    you're making my point for me using HB as an example.
     
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    My god, using HB as an example of a quick turnaround...incredible.
     
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    I am not judging the Cardinals personnel moves, you asked for an example and I did a single search, looked at the first result given and there it was.

    You might consider the parameters of a "good player with an acl tear late in the year" isnt going to yield the largest data set.

    The same article had several examples of players during the year with dramatic improvement the next but they didn't fit the late in the year

    One of them was Carson Palmer ironically.
     
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    I perceive a subtle shift toward attitude/lockerroom/intangibles when evaluating personnel - especially on defense.

    Adrian Wilson's influence, perhaps?
     
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