sundevilscott
Kaycee's Daddy
Holy cow I was on the wrong channel dammit.
Came off as a string of teasers designed to lure viewers back next season, if that ever happens.
The Donald story line made no impression at all?
I don't understand the whole plane crash deal. I know why and because of who, and maybe Donald is involved more, but the plane crash was a let down for me. Especially after the speculating the board did on the meaning of it and the fact that they alluded to something big happening because of it.
The more time I have had to think about this episode and the series on a whole, the ending becomes better, at least to me.
Everything in this show happens because of something Walt did. For most of the series he has skated away unscathed. But not anymore. Because of his lies his wife takes the kids and leaves him. I loved the way in the doctors office Skyler kept asking questions to see if he would be fine by himself. I should have known why she was asking them during that scene, but I was so oblivious at the time.
Then because he forced Jesse to spread their 'turf' Combo was killed which sent Jesse into a downward spiral back to drugs. That then lead Jane to fall off the wagon and introduce Jesse to heroin. Which in turn leads Walt to try to help Jesse which ends up killing Jane, whose father becomes distracted and lets 2 planes crash over Walt's house. Big coincidence? Of course, but this is tv and we have to allow them to take a few liberties.
I think people are disappointed because of the rampant speculation that everyone had, yet everyone was wrong. Some were expecting a shootout but there has only been one this entire series (Hank and Tuco). Would there be a big explosion? As far as I can remember there has been three (When Walt blows up the guys car, when Walt cooks up that rock that exploded in Tuco's office and the generator out in the desert). Everyone, including myself, thought something would happen based off other shows we knew and figured Breaking Bad would follow, but this writing staff continues to find new ways of doing things. I think this was a fantastic way to end the season and leads into a third season which has a really high bar set.
I totally agree, and the plane crash was like the culmination of everything that Walt has done up until now.
In fact, it's beautifully ironic that it happened and he has no idea that he was the root cause of all of it. Sure, not directly, but his actions led to it.
I agree as well that the writers here make ABSOLUTELY NOTHING predictable. Who could have guessed it was a plane crash?
Btw, did the roof of the vehicles in the beginning of the episode lead anyone to realize it was a plane crash? Because I purposely didn't pause the show and look it up
And since I was a week behind and didn't want to visit this thread, last week when Walt let Jane die...was one of the most haunting scenes I've ever watched on TV...ever. Period.
Love, love, love this show.
Seeing the NTSB logo on the van did not even register to me at the beginning of the show. No idea how it was related.
Then there was the OMG moment when you realized what just happened!
Brilliant television IMHO.
I put it all together with the NTSB logo, and when Donald went back to work I knew he was an air traffic controller.
Which is why I say "meh"
Jane was Donald's and Jesse's problem, not Walt's. Donald decided to give Jane one more night to screw up instead of dragging her out of there. Jesse shot up with her one more time. Walt was there by coincidence.
But Jane wouldn't have gone back to drugs if it weren't for Walt. She was doing well with her NA meetings and becoming sober (don't forget she had been clean for 18 months). She went back to drugs because she felt Jesse needed someone to be with because he was so effected by Combo's death. Combo was on that corner because Walt wanted to expand the territory. Almost everything in this series you can pin back on Walt.
Not Walt's fault.
FMPOV, the writers have decided to make Walt the pivot man and focal point for the rest of the cast's problems,demons, and screw ups. Walt is the one with the fewest flaws.
The MSNBC preview I read for the show says the Walt's wife will discover he's a drug dealer in episode 1.
Interesting viewpoint. I think it's the exact opposite. Like others said in this thread, I view the show's plot as a series of repercussions for a once good man 'breaking bad(ly and slowly)'.
Basically, over the course of the series, Walt has made a series of in-the-moment decisions that ranged from ethically dubious to just-plain-wrong. And each bad choice built and created the circumstances for the next bad choice. IMO, the ultimate 'bad choice' he has made to date was letting Jesse die. He fully crossed over to the dark side on that one, and the repercussion was a plane crashing into his house.
What makes it such great tv is that the actor playing Walt sells the moral ambiguity he struggles with at each new decision-point. He makes you buy into the idea that the ethically wrong choice might actually be the right choice, because we believe (still) he's a fundamentally good guy.
Of course, throughout the show, Walt could have made the ethically correct decision, resolved most of the tension and gotten back on the right path. But then there would be no drama. Only time with boring lawyers and plea-bargains.![]()
The way I see it, Walt is expected to take care of everyone's problems. He can't do it all. Jessie was beyond saving and she had already screwed him and everyone else over, big time. She was expendable.