Why should Gannon survive Monday?

[602 Native]

Not a chance!!!

You better buckle up because that’s the going word from media in Phoenix

 

[Goodyear Card]

You better buckle up because that’s the going word from media in Phoenix

The Phoenix sports media rarely knows what is going on.

 

[Cardinal88]

I believe he will survive Monday as well as the rest of the year. I also believe he will survive next year as well. Drew Petzing nope (his contract is up so don't renew it). I'm not so sure about Rallis. If his contract is a 3 year contract which it most likely is, I wonder why his defense went from one of the most blitzing DCs in 2023 and defense played way over expectations to one of the least in 2025 and playing way under expectations has me worried.

I have never been a person who felt that the top college teams could beat any professional team, but the Cardinals Indiana, OSU, or Georgia's would give the Cardinals a run for their money right now. Is it players or coaches? Maybe a little of both

Bidwill and Monte will have some tough decisions at the end of the year though. Maybe let JG survive with an experienced NFL OC to start with next year and figure out why Rallis has regressed.

For those who say, Bidwill cannot afford letting JG go, that is hogwash. Yesterday's game had about 10k-15k empty seats. That translates to probably $1.5M - $2M in lost revenue (assuming $150/person). That is close to $20M a season. Eating coaches contract isn't the issue in my opinion. I truly believe Petzing and our QB situation is so bad, it changes the dynamics of the team. Bring in a servicable QB, better RB room, get guys healthy, get Rallis out of the zone defense 90% of the teim and then most importantly, get an OC that can adapt.

 

[JosiahLee]

The only guaranteed change at this point is Murray will not be in a Cardinal uniform next season. Other than that, carry on. Injuries which to some extent have derailed this season will be the primary reason things will stay steady. Petzing may go, however even that is no guarantee. There may be some position coaching changes. They will roll out top 3 RBs injured, WR injuries on and off, TE injuries (Reiman), Oline injuries, CB injuries, Even Dline (Nolan and other minor players) loss of starting ILB and of course QB even though he is on his way out.

Just look at this link: Injury list

This staff will get another year to guide this team.

They have an abnormal amount of injuries, I don’t chalk it up to bad luck. I chalk it up to they are doing something wrong with how they train these players physically. Sadly, without changes, I fully expect and will even predict they will be one of the most injured teams again next year.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Just look at this link: Injury list

The offense is playing better than expected, given the injuries and the poor coaching, in my opinion.

The defense has no excuse, the injury list on defense is pretty minor, relatively speaking, the poor depth and lack of playmaker was a choice by Monty and by extension, we assume, Gannon.

 

[cardcrazy]

Finding someone better is very difficult.

We’ve lost 10 of the last 11 games. Finding someone better than that shouldn’t be that hard.

 

[Zalixar]

We’ve lost 10 of the last 11 games. Finding someone better than that shouldn’t be that hard.

The cream of the crop doesn't come to AZ unfortunately.

 

[cardpa]

Roster no doubt has suffered some blows but comes down to if you think Gannon can hang with these 3 other head coaches in the division.

I think he has clearly demonstrated he can not - we would be better off blowing this thing up and starting with a new HC and QB

I don't really disagree with your position however here is where reality sets in. Finding a new HC probably wouldn't be too hard, however considering names that have either turned down Bidwill or used him as leverage for another job is historically well known. We would probably end up with someone similar to GANNON that would be just as inexperienced as he is. Now maybe if you could persuade someone from the Dan Campbell staff you may hit there.

Additionally here is your choices for FA QBs in 2026. It's a who's who of nobodies and and moldy oldies. Maybe outside of Mariota, who I think is equivalent to Brissett, I don't see any of them being an upgrade. Jones has a torn Achilles, so his availability has taken a hit. As for the draft, with the current condition of our Oline, I wouldn't want to see a rookie exposed to that abuse from the get go. And there is no one in the draft that looks like a day one starter. Maybe the combines end up elevating someone but then you have to trade away a lot to move up high enough to grab him.

• Daniel Jones (Colts)
• Aaron Rodgers (Steelers)
• Russell Wilson (Giants)
• Marcus Mariota (Commanders)
• Joe Flacco (Bengals)
• Trey Lance (Chargers)
• Kenny Pickett (Vikings)
• Zach Wilson (Dolphins)
• Malik Willis (Packers)

 

[gmabel830]

I believe he will survive Monday as well as the rest of the year. I also believe he will survive next year as well. Drew Petzing nope (his contract is up so don't renew it). I'm not so sure about Rallis. If his contract is a 3 year contract which it most likely is, I wonder why his defense went from one of the most blitzing DCs in 2023 and defense played way over expectations to one of the least in 2025 and playing way under expectations has me worried.

I have never been a person who felt that the top college teams could beat any professional team, but the Cardinals Indiana, OSU, or Georgia's would give the Cardinals a run for their money right now. Is it players or coaches? Maybe a little of both

Bidwill and Monte will have some tough decisions at the end of the year though. Maybe let JG survive with an experienced NFL OC to start with next year and figure out why Rallis has regressed.

For those who say, Bidwill cannot afford letting JG go, that is hogwash. Yesterday's game had about 10k-15k empty seats. That translates to probably $1.5M - $2M in lost revenue (assuming $150/person). That is close to $20M a season. Eating coaches contract isn't the issue in my opinion. I truly believe Petzing and our QB situation is so bad, it changes the dynamics of the team. Bring in a servicable QB, better RB room, get guys healthy, get Rallis out of the zone defense 90% of the teim and then most importantly, get an OC that can adapt.

Most of the ticket money for live attendance is shared revenue for the league split among the teams. Only revenue from the club/loft/casita type tickets are 100% retained by the team. Unless that's changed in the last couple of years.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Most of the ticket money for live attendance is shared revenue for the league split among the teams. Only revenue from the club/loft/casita type tickets are 100% retained by the team. Unless that's changed in the last couple of years.

This is correct. Club/suite tickets are retained by the home team. It's the reason why Jerry put a record amount of Club seats in AT&T Stadium.

 

[gmabel830]

This is correct. Club/suite tickets are retained by the home team. It's the reason why Jerry put a record amount of Club seats in AT&T Stadium.

My understanding was slightly off/it's changed a bit. It looks like "regular seat" revenue is split 1/3 (34%) while the remaining 2/3 (66%) stays with the home club. Premium seating says 100% local. So, the empty seats do have some impact on the club's bottom line, but honestly not as much as people think.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

My understanding was slightly off/it's changed a bit. It looks like "regular seat" revenue is split 1/3 (34%) while the remaining 2/3 (66%) stays with the home club. Premium seating says 100% local. So, the empty seats do have some impact on the club's bottom line, but honestly not as much as people think.

Over 60% of income comes from shared league revenue. Tickets make up about 15% of individual team revenue, so Mikey is definitely losing quite a bit of money putting out a crap product year after year.

 

[602 Native]

The Phoenix sports media rarely knows what is going on.

I would agree but this is coming from PHNX and they have been right all season.

 

[gmabel830]

Over 60% of income comes from shared league revenue. Tickets make up about 15% of individual team revenue, so Mikey is definitely losing quite a bit of money putting out a crap product year after year.

Posted in another thread, but I did some research and the Cardinals have almost 80% of their revenue coming from shared league revenue (league average is 62%). I found this interesting, but I guess it makes sense since our ticket prices are among lowest in the league and we probably have less premium seating than a lot of clubs with newer stadiums.

 

[unseenaz]

I would agree but this is coming from PHNX and they have been right all season.

They are just reporting what Benjamin Allbright has been saying for a couple months. He's still sticking to it after yesterday's game, btw.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Posted in another thread, but I did some research and the Cardinals have almost 80% of their revenue coming from shared league revenue (league average is 62%). I found this interesting, but I guess it makes sense since our ticket prices are among lowest in the league and we probably have less premium seating than a lot of clubs with newer stadiums.

Makes sense. Mikey can't field a product good enough to put people in seats, so his ticket share is much lower than other teams.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The defense has no excuse, the injury list on defense is pretty minor, relatively speaking, the poor depth and lack of playmaker was a choice by Monty and by extension, we assume, Gannon.

This is the bottom line for me. It’s three seasons, a defensive head coach and a lot of draft capital/FA money last year shelled out to this side of the ball and the injuries here just aren’t catastrophic and yet the defense is looking just as bad down the stretch in year three as it looked in year 1.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

JG's only goal for the rest of the season;

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[kerouac9]

We have a career backup journeyman QB, who is actually better than our starting QB.

We had 2 PS running backs.

We only had one NFL quality WR.

Three starting OL were out injured.

We played one of the top teams in the NFL.

Why are people shocked we got our asses kicked?

Firing everyone is easy. Finding someone better is very difficult.

Gotta start somewhere

 

[AZ Native]

We’ve lost 10 of the last 11 games. Finding someone better than that shouldn’t be that hard.

I think he means finding someone better and with experience is difficult. They may not want to come to this dumpster fire.

 

[Cardiac]

I've got questions:
Is MB still paying Wilkes and how much?
Keim?
KK?
Anyone else?
Since KK and Wilkes are employed by NFL teams doesn't that lessen the amount MB has to pay out?
I can see MB keeping JG but an Offensive consultant has to be brought in.

 

[Cardinal88]

Well, you all are probably right! Unfortunately, nothing will ever change with the Cardinals as long as the Bidwill family own it.

Saddens me because I am an Arizona Native born and raised in Phoenix. Followed the NFL since I was about 8 when I was a Dolphin, Chiefs, and Cardinals fan believe it or not. I also hated (strong word) Dallas because that is all that was ever on back then. At the end of the day, I guess I pledged allegiance to the wrong team! Now all three are on downward trends!

 

[Reb Brown]

My understanding was slightly off/it's changed a bit. It looks like "regular seat" revenue is split 1/3 (34%) while the remaining 2/3 (66%) stays with the home club. Premium seating says 100% local. So, the empty seats do have some impact on the club's bottom line, but honestly not as much as people think.

Any idea what percentage of concessions the Cards get? A half-filled stadium is gonna hurt Mikey there, I’d imagine.

 

[daves]

Yesterday's game had about 10k-15k empty seats. That translates to probably $1.5M - $2M in lost revenue (assuming $150/person). That is close to $20M a season.

State Farm Stadium official capacity for regular season football games is 63,400.

Attendance at the Rams game was 61,970.

All those empty seats were paid for by people who didn't bother to attend, or brokers who couldn't unload the tickets.

I found these graphs behind a paywall, but was able to take a little screen capture.

There is zero pressure on Bidwill based on attendance.

 

[Cardinal88]

State Farm Stadium official capacity for regular season football games is 63,400.

Attendance at the Rams game was 61,970.

All those empty seats were paid for by people who didn't bother to attend, or brokers who couldn't unload the tickets.

I found these graphs behind a paywall, but was able to take a little screen capture.

There is zero pressure on Bidwill based on attendance.

Damn-it.... quit throwing out facts! Let me live in misery and despair.