Who's our next head coach?

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Gannon is probably back but he might not accept firing either of his coordinators and get fired with them. Or, more likely IMO, they are back just replacing the 2 assistants who left for college.
If they DO clean house I think the candidates and selection will be someone like these guys:

Matt Eberflus
Matt Nagy
Brandon Staley
The special teams coach the Rams just fired (can't remember his name and too lazy to look it up)

etc., etc.

Remember, we can't have nice things.
 

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Agreed. Let’s be honest, think of the most ideal move and then what the complete opposite of that would be—there’s our likely direction. I hate going here, but the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.
Bidwill is well known for his good sense!
 

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I was very leary of the JG hire because of the defensive meltdown by the Eagles in the Super Bowl loss to the Chiefs. To blow that huge lead had me concerned about his scheme and intelligence.
It is my rose colored glasses and glass half full personality that got me drinking the Jones koolaid again.
Well I'm not falling for the old banana in the tail pipe trick again.
Fire JG and his coordinators because all of them have each found multiple ways to lose winnable games.
 

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I was very leary of the JG hire because of the defensive meltdown by the Eagles in the Super Bowl loss to the Chiefs. To blow that huge lead had me concerned about his scheme and intelligence.
It is my rose colored glasses and glass half full personality that got me drinking the Jones koolaid again.
Well I'm not falling for the old banana in the tail pipe trick again.
Fire JG and his coordinators because all of them have each found multiple ways to lose winnable games.
What huge lead are you talking about? And 2 of the KC touchdowns had nothing to do with the Eagles D. KC returned an Eagles offensive fumble for a long TD & the Eagles special teams gave up a long punt return down inside the 5. That’s 14 points right there NOT on the defense. And the zebras gave KC EVERY call on that last drive. Not saying the D in the 2nd half was as dominating as it WAS in the first half, but that was a far more dangerous KC offense than what we’ve seen the last 2-3 years.
 

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I double down on Klint Kubiak.

Can somebody debate why this guy shouldn’t be top of the list.
Look at Seattle’s offense. I believe as the OC he also calls the plays.
He has coach qb’s, wr’s, oline. OC and more.
Very experienced in all phase of the game especially the offense.
Plus we would be stealing him from Seattle.
Take a minute a google his bio and history.
 
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What huge lead are you talking about? And 2 of the KC touchdowns had nothing to do with the Eagles D. KC returned an Eagles offensive fumble for a long TD & the Eagles special teams gave up a long punt return down inside the 5. That’s 14 points right there NOT on the defense. And the zebras gave KC EVERY call on that last drive. Not saying the D in the 2nd half was as dominating as it WAS in the first half, but that was a far more dangerous KC offense than what we’ve seen the last 2-3 years.
Wow, my memory is not what it use to be. I stand corrected.
I still want them all gone because they have demonstrated that their philosophy and skills are how to lose games.
 

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Wow, my memory is not what it use to be. I stand corrected.
I still want them all gone because they have demonstrated that their philosophy and skills are how to lose games.
I do understand the frustration of misery watching this franchise lose decade after decade after decade. Changing coaches every 3-4 years has only contributed to the cycle of losing. Who knows what Bidwill will do, but his family is the ONLY common denominator in all the losing that I’ve watched since 1964.
 

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I do understand the frustration of misery watching this franchise lose decade after decade after decade. Changing coaches every 3-4 years has only contributed to the cycle of losing. Who knows what Bidwill will do, but his family is the ONLY common denominator in all the losing that I’ve watched since 1964.
Well, at least you've gone from vitriolic insults against anyone daring to question this regime to the flimsy non-defense of the regime, falling back on the idea of firing coaches too often being a losing approach. I'd call that progress. Still, that's no reason to keep a grossly incompetent regime in place. Clean house, hire a competent team president, and let them run the whole shebang.
 

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I’m probably gonna get hammered for this but I would kick the tires on Mike McCarthy. He may be a retread, he may not win the biggest games, but I would sure settle for few winning seasons in a row at this point.
 

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I double down on Klint Kubiak.

Can somebody debate why this guy shouldn’t be top of the list.
Look at Seattle’s offense. I believe as the OC he also calls the plays.
He has coach qb’s, wr’s, oline. OC and more.
Very experienced in all phase of the game especially the offense.
Plus we would be stealing him from Seattle.
Take a minute a google his bio and history.
I’m sure he would be on top of the their list, unfortunately the Cards are not gonna be on the top of his list or anyone else’s for that matter.
 

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I double down on Klint Kubiak.

Can somebody debate why this guy shouldn’t be top of the list.
Look at Seattle’s offense. I believe as the OC he also calls the plays.
He has coach qb’s, wr’s, oline. OC and more.
Very experienced in all phase of the game especially the offense.
Plus we would be stealing him from Seattle.
Take a minute a google his bio and history.
Okay, I’ll play devil’s advocate, though he’s clearly a top candidate.

He’s had no exposure to defense, which is the strength of the Cardinal roster. Sure you can hire a good DC if you have the knowledge who to pick; but does he have that? The Cards lost too many games late because of defense, despite having invested in potential difference makers. Guys like Tomlinson would have been far more effective with aggressive pass rushing. I know the offense failed also, but I think the defense can be fixed quicker.

Kubiak failed as an OC in New Orleans. There were several injuries (same with Cards). He was unable to compensate for those injuries and struggled even in non-injury situations. He got overwhelmed and it’s true the HC was canned, but he was likely gone anyway.

He’ll need a strong passer at QB to run his system. Darnold exhibits both power and touch. Where do the Cards get that? Not easy even if they got Mendoza, who is decent but not special in those aspects. This draft doesn’t fit Kubiak. Does he tank his first year to get a good enough pick next year?

He has zero HC experiences. Many HCs fail without that experience because there are so many new aspects to learn. Often they don’t find time to capitalize on their strengths. Gannon is a perfect example.

Finally, if he’s the trendy pick, there’s no way he picks AZ.
 

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Okay, I’ll play devil’s advocate, though he’s clearly a top candidate.

He’s had no exposure to defense, which is the strength of the Cardinal roster. Sure you can hire a good DC if you have the knowledge who to pick; but does he have that? The Cards lost too many games late because of defense, despite having invested in potential difference makers. Guys like Tomlinson would have been far more effective with aggressive pass rushing. I know the offense failed also, but I think the defense can be fixed quicker.

Kubiak failed as an OC in New Orleans. There were several injuries (same with Cards). He was unable to compensate for those injuries and struggled even in non-injury situations. He got overwhelmed and it’s true the HC was canned, but he was likely gone anyway.

He’ll need a strong passer at QB to run his system. Darnold exhibits both power and touch. Where do the Cards get that? Not easy even if they got Mendoza, who is decent but not special in those aspects. This draft doesn’t fit Kubiak. Does he tank his first year to get a good enough pick next year?

He has zero HC experiences. Many HCs fail without that experience because there are so many new aspects to learn. Often they don’t find time to capitalize on their strengths. Gannon is a perfect example.

Finally, if he’s the trendy pick, there’s no way he picks AZ.
Appreciate your insight,Harry.
So I’m guessing you want a guy that has experience as a head coach. On the other hand that person would have been fired at least once for one reason or another. I’m certainly not going to eliminate him based on New Orleans. As far as a “ strong arm qb” to succeed well we might be waiting for years for that guy to come along.

Ben Johnson never was a head coach. I believe Kubiak has been around long enough to attract a good experienced DC. So there are pros and cons of who would be the right guy.

Bottom line it doesn’t matter if the organization isn’t going after the brass ring right from the get go. The Bears GM who hasn’t been the greatest went out and fixed the biggest problem they had, the o-line. He didn’t do it with a 5th round “ diamond in the rough”. He signed Tunney(sp) who’s going to the pro bowl. Their center is also going to the pro bowl.

This organization consistently plants seeds hoping they grow and develop. That’s okay. You need to do that. But then there are glaring needs that you simply can’t wait and hope they blossom before their time.

If we were aggressive and lucky I believe we could actually compete for a wild card.
I refuse to believe we can’t fix this offensive line IMMEDIATELY through free agency and this draft.
At rb there are a number of VERY good backs available in free agency.VERY GOOD. It doesn’t mean Connor has to go but he can’t be depended on as our featured back. We certainly can’t count on Benson or Demercado, Bam, Carter or Kiner.
We need a blazing Wr that could actually force a defense to worry about. Not Zay Jones or anybody currently on this roster.
We have great tight ends especially if Rieman returns.
Now the elephant in the room. QB. If everything surrounding the qb was improved, could Brissett be adequate. Could a QB like Nuesmier(sp) be brought in a nursed along with a strong supporting cast?

Here’s the real problem. This organization will once again be passive in the off season. We don’t have the balls to trade a guy like Baker, our yearly Pro Bowl consolation prize for picks. We won’t sign the best o-lineman in free agency. We’ll sign the best “ value” guy. You know, the one coming off a down year.

I guess the Bottom line is the head coach won’t matter if it doesn’t start at the top.
 
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I’m probably gonna get hammered for this but I would kick the tires on Mike McCarthy. He may be a retread, he may not win the biggest games, but I would sure settle for few winning seasons in a row at this point.
I mentioned him a while back. He would definitely add experience and he probably has far reaching acquaintances to put together a solid staff.
It still comes down to giving him the pieces to work with. You can’t hand him a 5th round RT and tell him it’s the best we can do.
We certainly can do a lot worse…and we have.
 
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