Who’s our next qb?

[Weenus O'Baggins]

some historic contrarianism:

Kolb was pretty good until concussions ruined his career

the Cards also traded a starting corner and a 2nd round pick for him

He wasn't nearly as good as he was with Philly. It's just a cautionary tale that taking a backup in a great situation based on a small sample size doesn't work very often.

 

[Dback Jon]

All that said, I have no clue what goes on in Rodgers head so...

Does anyone

 

[Gandhi]

I’d see if Indy wants to do a fourth-round pick swap for Richardson, too. Richardson is one-year, $5 million.

This is an interesting idea. Richardson have obviously mostly been a bust, but he have in fact shown some okay things.

In my mind, the idea is only attractive because of the high upside. Basically because of why not? I mean, you could go with Kirk Cousins or Jimmy Garappolo and probably be respectable next season, but unless you couple it would the high potential of Ty Simpson, it doesn't make much sense to me. Richardson or Willis have major boom-or-bust written all over them, but imagine if they boom.

Bidwill talked a lot about how other teams have made a fast turnaround, and how Gannon was only fired because of the win-loss statistic. I doubt that Ossenfort survives mediocracy.

 

[Stout]

Does anyone

If they're on ayahuasca.

 

[kerouac9]

some historic contrarianism:

Kolb was pretty good until concussions ruined his career

the Cards also traded a starting corner and a 2nd round pick for him

Was he though? In a limited sample size in Philly he had 11 TDs and 10 INTs. In the season we traded for him he had 7 TDs and 7 INTs.

 

[kerouac9]

The quickest way to get out of the basement is with an elite QB. Not available right now


Build the trenches. Then get the Qb

I’m 100% certain this is what you were saying three seasons ago

 

[kerouac9]

Rodgers wants to feel wanted, an wants people around him that he likes. In those respects, AZ is an option. Also I think the indoor stadiums and divisional weather are probably more appealing. I would prefer Cousins over him, but he gets the ball out of his hands fast, and he pairs well with timing and rhythm guys like MHJ and Wilson and McBride. Rodgers doesn't really hold onto the ball anymore to push it deep but the Cardinals also don't really have a guy they want to do that with.

All that said, I have no clue what goes on in Rodgers head so...

He’s actually notoriously hard on young and developing receivers tho.

 

[BritCard]

I don't know how much faith you can put in Brissett's stats given we were playing from behind a lot and without a decent running game.

Ok, Kyler has played behind a lot too. Why doesn't he have stats like that?

The garbage time thing is made up anyway.

JB's stats by quarter look generally similar to most QB stats.

Q1: 61/96, 609 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT
Q2: 82/144, 906 yds, 4 TD, 3 INT
Q3: 70/117, 853 yds, 9 TD, 3 INT
Q4: 98/167, 969 yds, 8 TD, 1 INT

They were certainly boosted by having both RBs out. No doubt about that. But that only makes it more impressive that he was able to consistently keep the passing game going despite teams know our run game was dead.

This is Aaron Rodgers who had almost identical stats to JB.

Q1: 77/116, 724 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT
Q2: 95/169, 953 yds, 7 TD, 3 INT
Q3: 65/102, 767 yds, 5 TD, 2 INT
Q4: 90/142, 878 yds, 9 TD, 2 INT

 

[BritCard]

Perhaps I missed it, has he been taken off the board for re-signing with the Steelers? That to me seems the most realistic option. I, for the life of me, cant see him playing for any of those three organizations. I guess we'll see.

No it's still on the board, I should have listed them too. But what I've seen says there's a miniscule chance.

Aaron Rodgers unlikely to return to Steelers, NFL insider reports

The Steelers may need a new quarterback in 2026.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Stout]

He’s actually notoriously hard on young and developing receivers tho.

MHJ would have trouble getting a pass thrown his way from Rodgers.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

No, Long John Silver's.

Oof man... oof.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

We do have first hand evidence of 280 passing yards per game, 23 TDs and 8 INTs.

If we're truly punting on the season, keeping things status quo (Brissett) is the way I'd do it too.

 

[Stout]

If we're truly punting on the season, keeping things status quo (Brissett) is the way I'd do it too.

Gimme Joe Flacco so we can make it interesting.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Gimme Joe Flacco so we can make it interesting.

I'd take that for sure.

 

[Zalixar]

Gimme Joe Flacco so we can make it interesting.

He needs to go to Pitt

 

[Dback Jon]

I’m 100% certain this is what you were saying three seasons ago

Yes, and which is one reason why I wanted a clean sweep of the front office and coaching staff

It’s the only logical thing to do

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He needs to go to Pitt

He might win them the division...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Yes, and which is one reason why I wanted a clean sweep of the front office and coaching staff

It’s the only logical thing to do

Sadly, nothing with the Cardinals is based off of logic. If it were, 95% of us would have abandoned this team already...

 

[Zalixar]

He might win them the division...

Yeah, interesting to see the bounce back from Ravens and Bengals.

But he would complete his rounds of the AFCN, so that would be neat.

 

[Chopper0080]

MHJ would have trouble getting a pass thrown his way from Rodgers.

Disagree. MHJ needs a QB to initiate communication and tell him what to do. Wilson was able to figure that out on his own with Brissett. They both would do fine with a QB who is vocal and demands them to be in certain places at certain times. Kyler was a terrible communicator. Hell, Larry couldn't even get him to tell Larry where he wanted him to be.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Disagree. MHJ needs a QB to initiate communication and tell him what to do. Wilson was able to figure that out on his own with Brissett. They both would do fine with a QB who is vocal and demands them to be in certain places at certain times. Kyler was a terrible communicator. Hell, Larry couldn't even get him to tell Larry where he wanted him to be.

AR is not afraid to get in his guys face and hold them accountable during the game

Imagine what he does at practice

It's a good thing for the young players

 

[kerouac9]

Disagree. MHJ needs a QB to initiate communication and tell him what to do. Wilson was able to figure that out on his own with Brissett. They both would do fine with a QB who is vocal and demands them to be in certain places at certain times. Kyler was a terrible communicator. Hell, Larry couldn't even get him to tell Larry where he wanted him to be.

AR is not afraid to get in his guys face and hold them accountable during the game

Imagine what he does at practice

It's a good thing for the young players

Guys go read the Athletic piece on Rodgers from a few years ago. He doesn’t communicate with his WRs on or off the field.

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[Stout]

Disagree. MHJ needs a QB to initiate communication and tell him what to do. Wilson was able to figure that out on his own with Brissett. They both would do fine with a QB who is vocal and demands them to be in certain places at certain times. Kyler was a terrible communicator. Hell, Larry couldn't even get him to tell Larry where he wanted him to be.

Rodgers is not a QB that helps WRs along. They either do and play exactly what and how he says, immediately, or they are irrelevant to him. Maybe earlier in his career he might help, but 100 percent not now. Trust me, I hear Stiller talk radio every day.

 

[some dumb guy]

Rodgers is not a QB that helps WRs along. They either do and play exactly what and how he says, immediately, or they are irrelevant to him. Maybe earlier in his career he might help, but 100 percent not now. Trust me, I hear Stiller talk radio every day.

Hypothetically speaking, IF you were a steelers fan, who would you rather have at QB1 for the steelers next year?
Rodgers or Murray
Take a deep breath before answering

 

[Jetstream Green]

Jacoby looked pretty solid to me last season and did something for our receivers the past QB and OC were unable to do alone, made them far more productive. I say he goes into camp as the starter but has to earn it. Draft a guy in the second or third round, with still the thought of drafting high the proceeding season and cover the 'what if'. Rodgers, Willis, Cousins frankly do not show me any more benefits over Jacoby for who he was for us