Who’s our next qb?

[Harry]

I know nothing about him

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It was a virtual certainty.

 

[TheCardFan]

Please check the facts (@daves)

Dante Moore 18 starts
Ty Simpson 15 starts

Here is the list of QB's that had less than 20 starts in college who had the most TD passes in the NFL.

This is why you don't take these guys without experience.

Player	Total NFL Wins	College Starts	College Team(s)
Kyler Murray	38	17	Texas A&M (3) / Oklahoma (14)
Matt Cassel	36	0	USC
Mark Sanchez	31	16	USC
Mitchell Trubisky	31	13	North Carolina
Anthony Richardson	4	13	Florida
Trey Lance	2	17	North Dakota State

 

[TheCardFan]

Here is a list of QB's in the NFL with number of starts in college - again, I can't vouch for the full accuracy.

Rank	Quarterback	Team	College(s)	College Starts
1	Bo Nix	Denver	Auburn / Oregon	61
2	Cam Ward	Tennessee	Incarnate Word / Wash. St / Miami	57
3	Jayden Daniels	Washington	Arizona State / LSU	55
4	Baker Mayfield	Tampa Bay	Texas Tech / Oklahoma	48
5	Brock Purdy	San Francisco	Iowa State	46
6	Michael Penix Jr.	Atlanta	Indiana / Washington	45
7	Dak Prescott	Dallas	Mississippi State	42
8	Jaxson Dart	NY Giants	USC / Ole Miss	41
9	Kenny Pickett	Las Vegas	Pittsburgh	41
10	Justin Herbert	LA Chargers	Oregon	40
11	Joe Burrow	Cincinnati	Ohio State / LSU	38
12	Trevor Lawrence	Jacksonville	Clemson	37
13	Jalen Hurts	Philadelphia	Alabama / Oklahoma	37
14	Jared Goff	Detroit	California	37
15	Derek Carr	New Orleans	Fresno State	37
16	Caleb Williams	Chicago	Oklahoma / USC	37
17	Riley Leonard	Indianapolis	Duke / Notre Dame	36
18	Sam Darnold	Seattle	USC	35
19	Jordan Love	Green Bay	Utah State	32
20	Josh Allen	Buffalo	Wyoming	27
21	Bryce Young	Carolina	Alabama	27
22	Matthew Stafford	LA Rams	Georgia	26
23	Lamar Jackson	Baltimore	Louisville	26
24	Drake Maye	New England	North Carolina	26
25	C.J. Stroud	Houston	Ohio State	25
26	Patrick Mahomes	Kansas City	Texas Tech	25
27	Quinn Ewers	Miami	Texas	24
28	Aaron Rodgers	Pittsburgh	Butte / California	22
29	J.J. McCarthy	Minnesota	Michigan	22
30	Kyler Murray	Arizona	Texas A&M / Oklahoma	17
31	Anthony Richardson	Indianapolis*	Florida	13
32	Trey Lance	Dallas*	N. Dakota State	11

 

[football karma]

i guess i hadnt realized how few games Kyler had started

 

[daves]

Please check the facts (@daves)

Thanks for your faith in me! But, college sports are not my forte!

 

[GatorAZ]

I swear the NCAA just flips a coin depending on the player in these situations. Moore, Simpson and Chambliss entering the draft makes it more fun whether we end up with one of them or not.

bump.
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[oaken1]

Of all the QB candidates, he might be the easiest to scout. His plusses and minuses are very well defined. He gets some comparison to Nix mostly because he’s essentially had college coaching for 7 years. He’s what is labeled a high floor, low ceiling guy. Those who shun Simpson because of few college starts, see Beck as the opposite.

The good stuff is he’s poised under pressure and willing to take a hit to make a play. He’s not a talented runner, but he’ll run to get a first down. He’s accurate on short and midrange throws. He uses progressions and is at least decent at sizing up matchups.

The negatives are he is not an accurate deep thrower. He has a strong arm, but is not a precision passer throwing deep. He throws line drives well, but does not have great touch. He sometimes throws short passes too hard. He can run for a short distance, but is not elusive. His rollout throws can be erratic.

Beck can start more quickly than other choices, maybe immediately, but he is not likely to become a top tier QB. He goes late one or two, likely to a team looking for a place holder.

Like the Arizona Cardinals

 

[oaken1]

Here is a list of QB's in the NFL with number of starts in college - again, I can't vouch for the full accuracy.

Rank	Quarterback	Team	College(s)	College Starts
1	Bo Nix	Denver	Auburn / Oregon	61
2	Cam Ward	Tennessee	Incarnate Word / Wash. St / Miami	57
3	Jayden Daniels	Washington	Arizona State / LSU	55
4	Baker Mayfield	Tampa Bay	Texas Tech / Oklahoma	48
5	Brock Purdy	San Francisco	Iowa State	46
6	Michael Penix Jr.	Atlanta	Indiana / Washington	45
7	Dak Prescott	Dallas	Mississippi State	42
8	Jaxson Dart	NY Giants	USC / Ole Miss	41
9	Kenny Pickett	Las Vegas	Pittsburgh	41
10	Justin Herbert	LA Chargers	Oregon	40
11	Joe Burrow	Cincinnati	Ohio State / LSU	38
12	Trevor Lawrence	Jacksonville	Clemson	37
13	Jalen Hurts	Philadelphia	Alabama / Oklahoma	37
14	Jared Goff	Detroit	California	37
15	Derek Carr	New Orleans	Fresno State	37
16	Caleb Williams	Chicago	Oklahoma / USC	37
17	Riley Leonard	Indianapolis	Duke / Notre Dame	36
18	Sam Darnold	Seattle	USC	35
19	Jordan Love	Green Bay	Utah State	32
20	Josh Allen	Buffalo	Wyoming	27
21	Bryce Young	Carolina	Alabama	27
22	Matthew Stafford	LA Rams	Georgia	26
23	Lamar Jackson	Baltimore	Louisville	26
24	Drake Maye	New England	North Carolina	26
25	C.J. Stroud	Houston	Ohio State	25
26	Patrick Mahomes	Kansas City	Texas Tech	25
27	Quinn Ewers	Miami	Texas	24
28	Aaron Rodgers	Pittsburgh	Butte / California	22
29	J.J. McCarthy	Minnesota	Michigan	22
30	Kyler Murray	Arizona	Texas A&M / Oklahoma	17
31	Anthony Richardson	Indianapolis*	Florida	13
32	Trey Lance	Dallas*	N. Dakota State	11

Based on all those it seems 20 starts should be a bare minimum

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Hey gang. What about Drew Allar in the 4th? All I keep hearing is what a great prospect he was and his coach was a Qb killer.
Big boy. Big arm.
Just asking.

6'5" & he can actually see over his center & Guards lol

 

[azgreg]

The way Moore played last night you'd think the Jets already drafted him.

 

[PACardsFan]

Carson Beck is interesting.

He just turned 23 in November even though he has been in college for 6 years and has 41 starts (36-5)
He is a 2 time Natl Champion (in championship game again this year). He got injured in SEC championship in 2024 otherwise he would declared for draft last year.
~70% completion % in college
Did it against big time competition and on big stages

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Beck sucks badly. If he ends up in the NFL, it won’t be as a starter.

 

[azgreg]

What a bad year to have the third pick.

 

[PDXChris]

Orlovsky: Raiders would Take Arch Manning No. 1 if He Declared for the Draft - Raiders Beat

The Raiders are widely expected to take Fernando Mendoza with the no.1 pick in...

www.raidersbeat.com

Based on this article, bare with me.

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Cardinals trade Kyler, the 3rd pick and out 3rd for the 1st. We take Mendoza. The Raiders tank, and have Kyler for 2 years since Archie will be a year to develop!

 

[azgreg]

He wouldn't visit if Moore were coming back.

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[TheCardFan]

Raola is my sleeper QB for next year

 

[Gandhi]

He wouldn't visit if Moore were coming back.

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ESPN had a report that Oregon offered Ty Simpson a ton of money before he declared.

 

[TheCardFan]

Raiola going to Ducks - Moore has to be going to the NFL.

My sleep QB for 2027:

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[unseenaz]

Herbert is now 0–3 in the playoffs and already on his 3rd head coach. That’s usually when franchises start looking to make a change.. If the Chargers ever make a move at QB, the Cardinals should be first in line. Forget the playoff narrative, Herbert instantly raises the floor of this team.

 

[Stout]

Herbert is now 0–3 in the playoffs and already on his 3rd head coach. That’s usually when franchises start looking to make a change.. If the Chargers ever make a move at QB, the Cardinals should be first in line. Forget the playoff narrative, Herbert instantly raises the floor of this team.

Absolutely. People crying that Kyler doesn't have any support would shudder at the reality that is the Charger's pass pro.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Herbert is now 0–3 in the playoffs and already on his 3rd head coach. That’s usually when franchises start looking to make a change.. If the Chargers ever make a move at QB, the Cardinals should be first in line. Forget the playoff narrative, Herbert instantly raises the floor of this team.

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[PDXChris]

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[Weenus O'Baggins]

Rqge Bait draft by The Athletic

 

[cardsfanmd]

Herbert is now 0–3 in the playoffs and already on his 3rd head coach. That’s usually when franchises start looking to make a change.. If the Chargers ever make a move at QB, the Cardinals should be first in line. Forget the playoff narrative, Herbert instantly raises the floor of this team.

Sorry. Herbert seems like a nice guy and all but the kid loses, plain and simple.

 

[Mulli]

Sorry. Herbert seems like a nice guy and all but the kid loses, plain and simple.

I am old enough to remember Peyton Manning being criticized for not winning.

That oline for the Chargers was terrible

 

[Harry]

ESPN had a report that Oregon offered Ty Simpson a ton of money before he declared.

7.5 mil