Whiz and Graves' Philosophy: Stocking the Cardinals' Cupboards

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It's becoming more and more apparent what the Cardinals' personnel philosophy is under the careful watch of Head Coach Ken Whisenhunt and General Manager Rod Graves...and it's a page right out of the Pittsburgh Steelers' book: identify the players on the current roster who may not still be in town a year or two down the road and stock those positions with draft picks.

I recently emailed Kent Somers and asked him the following questions:

1. What do you think of a trade of Anquan Boldin to the Dolphins for QB Tyler Thigpen and a 3rd round draft pick?

2. Do you think the Cardinals will pay CB Bryant McFadden $5M this year, none of which is guaranteed, in light of his struggles at RCB this past year?

3. Do you think the Cardinals in light of their immediate needs on defense at WILB, CB, rush DE and FS will address these needs in free agency?

4. Is it your own assessment that FS Rashad Johnson was a "big disappointment" as you termed it, or did you get that directly from the coaches? I also shared with him how impressed I was with Johnson's play at the end of the St. Louis game in Week 16 and in his start versus the Packers in Week 17 where he recorded 11 solo tackles (4 and 7 respectively).

Kent Somers' answers were...and, as you might imagine, they were predictable:

1. The Cardinals won't trade for a QB.

2. Yes, McFadden will stick at $5M, unless they sign a FA CB and draft one.

3. The Cardinals will wait two or three weeks into FA to let the dust settle and then try to make a few moves.

4. He said he sensed from the coaches Rashad Johnson was a disappointment, but that was earlier in the year and he agreed that he thought his play was improved at the end of the year.

With the exception of #4 (somewhat), these were not the answers I was hoping to hear. But, I have to say they are completely in line with what the current personnel philosophy seems to be.

This being the case, it was very significant to learn that Whiz has now assumed even greater control of the team's personnel decisions. Hey, as Bill Parcells so aptly put, "If you are going to ask me to cook the dinner, you'd better let me shop for the groceries."

Thus, I think it will be very interesting to see what moves Whiz makes in the next few months.

Point 1: It looks inevitable that FS Antrel Rolle will be released. Whiz has said the team wants to re-sign him. Rolle has said he'd like to play for the Dolphins. Now it seems the Bears are interested.

Suddenly FS Darren Sharper is on the market...but I would be very surprised if he is still un-signed in the third week of FA.

Then, there's Ryan Clark of the Steelers...now he's a younger player whom the Steelers are extremely high on. Does Whiz make a move for Clark? Again, three weeks into FA might not work, unless Clark is holding out for primo $$$$.

Point 2: While Whiz has done a good job of stocking the cupboard behind the likes of DE Antonio Smith (Calais Campbell, Kenny Iwebema, Alan Branch), OLB Chike Okeafor (Cody Brown, Will Davis, Mark Washington, Stevie Baggs), CB Bryant McFadden (Greg Toler), FS Antrel Rolle (Rashad Johnson), T Mike Gandy (Brandon Keith, Herman Johnson), WR Anquan Boldin (Steve Breaston, Early Doucet), Edgerrin James (Tim Hightower, Beanie Wells), etc.....

This year the cupboard is bare most significantly behind Karlos Dansby at WILB and Matt Leinart at QB...

And one could argue that the cupbaord is not deep behind the following players who will soon become UFAs: G Deuce Lutui (although Brandon Keith or Herman Johnson might fit nicely there with the other at RT), TE Ben Patrick, FB (totally unsettled at this point), SILB Gerald Hayes (Reggie Walker has a chance here but no one has been drafted here in Whiz's three years and Hayes looks like a question mark due to his back issues), and NT Gabe Watson.

In addition, the team needs depth at CB.

Therefore, in keeping with the stocking the supboard model, we probably just uncovered the Cardinals draft direction:

WILB, QB, G, TE, FB, SILB, NT, CB, FS.

While we're at it, lets take a look at the potential in-house options at these positions:

WILB: Is it safe to say that Ali Highsmith has little to no shot there? Highsmith struggled this year when he was temporarily used there when Dansby was hurt. With another year in John Lott's program and a strong push on Highsmith's part, can he rise to the occasion? At this point it looks like a stretch, but some players when presented with a window of opportunity have seized such an opportunity. In additon, could Mark Washington be an option there? We haven't seen much of this kid yet, but at an athletic 6-3, 245, who knows? The talk from the coaches with regard to Washington has been very positive...but the assumption is as an OLB.

Conclusion: The team needs a starter here, either through FA or the draft, Many of us have clamored for Larry Foote (Lions) and maybe he is a guy who would still be on the market two to three weeks into FA. But the FA market there looks very thin. If the team doesn't land a starter in FA, it would seem imperative that they use the #26 pick here to select Sean Weatherspoon (6-1, 235, Missouri) or Brandon Spikes (6-3, 245, Florida)...although I also have a sneaking suspicion that Navorro Bowman (6-1, 230, Penn St.), has the skill set to be a real factor at the position. Spikes has the more proto-typical size, but is not as fast or quick as Weatherspoon or Bowman. Sean Lee (6-2, 234, Penn. St.) is a tackling machine, but may seem better suited inevitable at SILB. Some second to third round options may incude Daryl Washington (6-3, 228, TCU) and Micah Johnson (6-2, 252, Kentucky).

QB: The coaches have said they'd like to re-sign Brian St. Pierre, but need to feel assured that his back is healthy enough (apparently he does not require surgery on his inflamed disc). The FA market seems very thin. Chad Pennington has shoulder issues. Charlie Batch has had injury issues of his own and is getting up there in age. Daunte Culpepper appears more healthy now, but is he a fit? David Carr has the big arm, but has never really had sustained success in the league.

In the draft, Somers was pretty sure the Cardinals would look to the middle rounds for a QB...and it's not a deep draft in QBs, to say the least. maybe you go with one of the bigger arms like a Jarrett Brown (WVU) or John Skelton (Fordham), both of whom are major projects.

The question is, and this is why I think exploring trade options might be wise, with Matt Leinart's contract situation looming and the uncertainty of how he is going to perform this year, wouldn't it make the QB situation a higher priority?

G: As mentioned, whomever does not win the RT job (Brandon Keith or Herman Johnson) could be the logical next player in line at G. Keith and Johnson playing side by side down the road might be a formidible tandem.

The player I really like in this draft is Mike Johnson (6-6, 305, Alabama) and if he is on the board in the third round I would be ecstatic to see the Cardinals take him.

TE: This position gets shored up quickly at least for next year if the team re-signs Anthony Becht to pair with improved starter Ben Patrick. The coaches like Stephen Spach, who should be stronger and may swing as an H-back (TE/FB combo). And it has a pass receiving threat in Dominique Byrd.

Just the same, with Patrick heading into a contract year and Becht getting older, it would be right in keeping with the team's philosophy to draft a TE this year...two to keep an eye on in rounds 4-5: Ed Dickson (6-5, 243, Oregon) and Colin Peek (6-5, 254, Alabama).

While some are thinking that the Cardinals might use the #26 on Jermaine Gresham (6-6, 262, Oklahoma), and I wouldn't rule that out, particularly if the team trades Anquan Boldin, I wonder if Whiz would rather have a better blocker...which is why Rob Gronkwoski (6-3, 255, Arizona) is a nicer fit, when healthy. To nab Gronkwoski the Cardinals would probably have to do so in Round 2, as he may not last much farther beyond that point.

FB: The situation solves itself if Dan Kreider is re-signed. But I think Whiz wants a FB who can thump and catch. The Cardinals picked up Nehemiah Broughton (5-11, 255) late in the year and saved Justin Green (6-0, 246) on the IR They also recently signed Reagan Mauia to a future's contract, so they have three in-house options already, if they are high on those three.

The guy in the draft that intrigues me is Dorin Dickerson (6-2, 230, Pittsburgh) who is an outstanding all-purpose FB prospect.

SILB: Reggie Walker was one of the big surprises in camp last year. He stepped up big-time in the pre-season games, making textbook hits and wrap-up tackles at the goal-line. He also contributed well on STs. He looks like a keeper, at least as a short yardage ILB. The question is, can he step in and start if need be?

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Cardinals took a guy like Jamar Cheney (6-1, 238, Mississippi St.), Pat Angerer (6-1, 234, Iowa) or Ryan D'Imperio (6-3, 240) later on in the draft.

NT: The team should tender Gabe Watson (6-4, 329) who is headed into a contract year and is still trying to return to form following his knee injury two years ago. The team may decide to re-sign Bryan Robinson (6-4, 304) who has held down the fort decently and provided leadership, but is not a real stalwart there. But, what about Alan Branch (6-5, 338)? Sure, he made huge strides as a backup DE...but the Cardinals traded up to get this guy and he belongs in the starting lineup, otherwise they are likely just grooming him to be someone else's 3-4 DE, because he hits free agency after this year as well. This is a guy they gave up a 4th rounder for to trade up into the early 2nd round three years ago.

It's quite possible the Cardinals may take one of the two top NTs in this draft, Dan Williams (6-2, 310, Tennessee) or Terrence Cody (6-5, 365). The Cardinals would have to take Williams at #26, and if he's gone they might roll the dice on Cody there as well, although if they pick up a 2nd rounder for Boldin, Cody might be available then.

CB: Somers is pretty sure the Cardinals will keep McFadden at $5M. If that's the case they have to address the depth. Ralph Brown has been a cagy veteran, but is limited physically. Michael Adams is a STs star, but is raw in experience and technique, although he will run support as well and tough as anyone in the group. Not too sure what the Cardinals have in PS player Rashad Barksdale and recent signee Trumaine McBride. Perhaps one of them will surprise.

With McFadden in a contract year, the Cardinals need to draft another CB, and they will have a plethora of options starting at #26 with the likes of Kyle Wilson (5-10, 190, Boise St.), Devin McCourty (5-11, 180, Rutgers) and Kareem Jackson (5-11, 185, Alabama).

Good choices for taller CBs in Rounds 2-3 may be Trevard Lindley (6-0, 178, Kentucky), Perrish Cox (6-1, 195, Oklahoma St.), Brandon Ghee (6-0, 190, Wake Forest) and Brian Jackson (6-1, 202, Oklahoma).

Thus, let's say the Cardinals acquire a 2nd rounder for Boldin, based on the stocking the supbaord philosophy, this may be similar to what we will see come the draft:

1. Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers.
2a. Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
2b. Rob Gronkwski, TE, Arizona
3. Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
4. Micah Johnson, LB, Kentucky
5. John Skelton, QB, Fordham
6. Jamar Cheney, LB, Mississippi St.
7. Dorin Dickerson, FB, Pittsburgh

OR

1. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
2a. Navorro Bowman, LB, Penn. St.
2b. Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
3. Dan LeFevour, QB, Western Michigan
4. Antonio Coleman, LB, Auburn
5. Mitch Petrus, G, Arkansas
6. Ryan D'Imperio, LB, Rutgers
7. Jim Dray, TE, Stanford
 
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I sincerely hope your conclusion is wrong, that we'll take the shopping list of our major needs and enter the draft looking to fill them. It's a sure-fire way to have an awful draft.

Curiously, though, you go on to not take a LB until late in your mock. That leaves us with who starting at ILB?
 

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Mitch, you must have been up all night with this one. Good stuff here. I particularly like your draft layout at the end, but I get the feeling there will only be one pick at the 2nd round.

I get the distinct feeling that they are not going to trade Boldin, (or at the very least, they are not seeking a trade for him). They may entertain a trade request, but I think someone else has to offer the process first. I just have a hunch that Whiz wants to keep Q in the fold, and keep him happy by throwing to him, and calling on his leadership.
 

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Mitch, I hope that in the first round we'll go for the BPA, but I would think that need kicks in, in the second and third rounds. That being said, I'm expecting two ILB's to be drafted by the fourth round. We are dangerously thin at those spots, assuming that Hayes won't be healthy. I do like the Shelton pick, since I'm from the NY area, and have followed his career, via the newspapers. Great job as usual.
 
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I sincerely hope your conclusion is wrong, that we'll take the shopping list of our major needs and enter the draft looking to fill them. It's a sure-fire way to have an awful draft.

Curiously, though, you go on to not take a LB until late in your mock. That leaves us with who starting at ILB?

I just added a second mock to address your very question, Stout. Thanks.
 
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Mitch, you must have been up all night with this one. Good stuff here. I particularly like your draft layout at the end, but I get the feeling there will only be one pick at the 2nd round.

I get the distinct feeling that they are not going to trade Boldin, (or at the very least, they are not seeking a trade for him). They may entertain a trade request, but I think someone else has to offer the process first. I just have a hunch that Whiz wants to keep Q in the fold, and keep him happy by throwing to him, and calling on his leadership.

Somers is virtually sure the Cardinals will trade Q. But I think your argument has real merit, Catfish, especially the leadership part now that Warner is retired.
 
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Mitch, I hope that in the first round we'll go for the BPA, but I would think that need kicks in, in the second and third rounds. That being said, I'm expecting two ILB's to be drafted by the fourth round. We are dangerously thin at those spots, assuming that Hayes won't be healthy. I do like the Shelton pick, since I'm from the NY area, and have followed his career, via the newspapers. Great job as usual.

Yes, just added a second mock while you and Stout were aptly pointing out the lack of LBers. Thanks, Garth. I think you are right. There certainly has to be one, that's for sure.
 

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Wow, I'd take Navarro Bowman in the 2nd in a second! It won't happen, unfortunately, as he'll probably be gone by our 1st pick. Also, he'll be an OLB and not the ILB we need.
 

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3 weeks is along time to wait in FA, especially when there's not much dust this year :D. I doubt the Cards, or any team, can wait that long. I could see waiting out the first week but that's about it. If they want Rolle they'll probably have to act the 1st week because I don't see him waiting around. I wonder if he'll actually give the Cards a chance to match. I think Rosenhaus will take the 1st big offer. In the back of my mind and not basing it on anything, I think Rosenhaus may hold it against the Cards for Boldin firing him. It doesn't make business sense but i can see him as the vindictive type.
 

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It doesn't make business sense but i can see him as the vindictive type.

This might seem the case but I know for a fact that he really isn't. He really does treat things in a very business fashion behind the scenes. It is why he easily has the most players under contract then any other agent, players like that he is all business and doesn't take things personally or use another players situation to bleed over to another clients situation. For example, last year Drew was frustrated about the Boldin, Dockett, and Edge situations yet two of his players signed with us last year - McFadden and Becht.
 

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3 weeks is along time to wait in FA, especially when there's not much dust this year :D. I doubt the Cards, or any team, can wait that long. I could see waiting out the first week but that's about it. If they want Rolle they'll probably have to act the 1st week because I don't see him waiting around.

I took Somers comments on waiting 2-3 weeks to let things settle in terms of letting outside free agency to settle. I don't think that 2-3 week time period includes the Cards own FA's. Meaning if they have to move on Rolle, Gandy, Bridges, Rackers, Becht and so on from now to a month from now they will.
 

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I don't want anyone from Penn on our roster: they alwys seem to suck for the cardinals.
 

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I think the Cardinals philosophy is pretty well established by history:

1. No chasing of big name free agents
2. Look for value pick ups in free agency after the dust settles
3. Draft for need in round 1
4. Draft to replace next years free agent losses after that
 

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Is there any other good ILB's in FA other than Foote...I really would like us to target someone else at ILB considering Footes age (while vet leadership is all well and good it can not make up for old man legs).

Plus we all know Whis as a tendencey of slowly bringing rookies onto the field and I'm sure he doesn't want to start a rookie from day one because of need.

My Ideal Mock Draft

1. ILB/OLB Mizz Sean Weatherspoon (I would go crazy if he drops to us)

2. NT Bama Terrence Cody (In my first mock I had us taking him in the first but after thinking about it for awhile I don't think many teams will spend a 1st on a 2 down NT)

3a. CB Wake Forest Brandon Ghee (Can play Man or Zone but very inconsistant... Maybe Donnie Henderson will like this kid?)

Boldin trade 3b. OG/OC Baylor J.D Walton (Started three years there never missed a game..would be a nice backup for both postions.)

4. QB Western Michigan Tim Hiller (Was very productive at the college level...Has ideal size that the NFL looks for)

5. DE Bama Brandon Deaderick (Ideal side/weight that you look for in a 3-4 DE was on a championship team and knows how to win)

6. OT Tenn Christ Scott (Massive Man Mauler 6'5 345lbs played in a prostyle system and would be a RT in most teams..LT for ours since our QB is a Lefty)

7. RS Florida A&M LeRoy Vann (You can knock him for not having the sprinter speed that you look for in a return specialist but he gets the job done)

Probly more realistic

1. NT Bama Terrence Cody (After the 3 big DTs are off the board Suh, McCoy, Williams are off the board the Cards don't risk waiting till the 2nd round)

2. ILB TCU Daryl Washington (A ILB with range and cover skills=Dansby postion)

3. TE Arizona Rob Gronkowski (While he is ranked as the higher TE's the injury makes teams wait to take him...I hope)

3b. DE/OLB South Florida George Selvie (After having a great sophmore season his production has gone down..CC Syndrome perhaps?)

4. SS V Tech Kam Cancellor (Has the size to backup Wilsons spot without much scheme change 6'4 230lbs)

5. WR Ohio Taylor Price (Home run threat is always nice to have at the WR postion)

6. DE Kansas State Jeffrey Fitzgerald (Ideal size for a DE in the 3-4 and we can never have enough Fitzgeralds)

7. OT TCU Marshall Newhouse (Played on a very succesful team...Can run and pass block well)
 

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My Ideal Mock Draft

1. ILB/OLB Mizz Sean Weatherspoon (I would go crazy if he drops to us)

This wouldn't be a drop. He's projected, bottom of the 1st to early 2nd. He'd be a fit for us for sure, but his value where he is picked could be slightly suspect. But he'd start soon. We may be boxed in with this pick.

Boldin trade 3b. OG/OC Baylor J.D Walton (Started three years there never missed a game..would be a nice backup for both postions.)
Boldin will not be moved this late in the draft w/o more picks , this year or next.

Probly more realistic

1. NT Bama Terrence Cody (After the 3 big DTs are off the board Suh, McCoy, Williams are off the board the Cards don't risk waiting till the 2nd round)

2. ILB TCU Daryl Washington (A ILB with range and cover skills=Dansby postion)

3. TE Arizona Rob Gronkowski (While he is ranked as the higher TE's the injury makes teams wait to take him...I hope)

3b. DE/OLB South Florida George Selvie (After having a great sophmore season his production has gone down..CC Syndrome perhaps?)

4. SS V Tech Kam Cancellor (Has the size to backup Wilsons spot without much scheme change 6'4 230lbs)

5. WR Ohio Taylor Price (Home run threat is always nice to have at the WR postion)

6. DE Kansas State Jeffrey Fitzgerald (Ideal size for a DE in the 3-4 and we can never have enough Fitzgeralds)

7. OT TCU Marshall Newhouse (Played on a very succesful team...Can run and pass block well)

Substitute either Spikes or Norwood for Washington (too small @ ILB) ad we have a deal
 

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This wouldn't be a drop. He's projected, bottom of the 1st to early 2nd. He'd be a fit for us for sure, but his value where he is picked could be slightly suspect. But he'd start soon. We may be boxed in with this pick.


Boldin will not be moved this late in the draft w/o more picks , this year or next.



Substitute either Spikes or Norwood for Washington (too small @ ILB) ad we have a deal
I didn't put Spikes there because he is better fit for Hayes postion because of his lack of speed...Norwood is more of a rush LBer IMO...Daryl has decent size for a ILBer at 6'4 and I believe he weighed in at the senior bowl at 245lbs I think. Daryl needs to work on sheding blocks..or atleast thats what the scouting report says.
 

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Good stuff to read!

I think we have done well on most positions as to predict and secure replacements. Not force rookies to start, but let them have a year or two in system before they get that responsibility. Most of the positions are like that and that's exciting for the near future of this team, but there are some positions where I think we have failed to follow the same strategy. You name some of those positions, and I totally agree. It can also be that I am wrong and that the replacement we have in depth or the rookies brought in this draft will work out. These positons are QB, WILB, CB, NT. It can very well be that Leinart, Highmsith, Toler, Branch all work out as reliable starters, but I simply do not see that. Branch and Toler have the best chance, in my opinion. All these posiitons are major concern as for now.

So far, my mock looks like this. It's changing rapidly, could look different in a week, as I'm using most of my time looking college tapes of interesting prospects.

1) Jimmy Clausen, QB

"QB is the most important position in the game. By far. Especially when you have huge questions at the position as we do. Without a premium QB, you will not even make the playoffs in the present NFL. Getting a QB that can win you games and make you a winner, is not only worth a 1st round pick, it's worth all the picks together if you ask me. As long as you pick the right guy. Trading up for Clausen would be a very smart move, and there is even a chance he is available without a trade, making it even more tempting and realistic."

2) Tyson Alualu, DT/DE

"The most polished lineman in this class, it's not even close. In addition, he is a good athlete which makes the pick amazing. Usually, college athletes never develop the proper technique, simply because they can get great stats based on their athleticism alone, penetration. This guy has everything in his game and looks and plays like a NFL lineman even now, before he is drafted. In addition, he knows what both 34 and 43 is about. Can play DE and even NT with that technique. We saw how Robinson was able to play NT, a former 43 DE. Technique is the first thing here and discipline as well. Athelticism and strength is the second requirement. Win win pick, this guy is so good, the chance he fails is close to zero in my book. "

3) Perrish Cox, CB

"Knows how to turn arround and locate the ball. There are only 3 or 4 corners in this class (or any class in general) that have that ability, or even some of it. Most of them look lost when targeted by an accurate throw, even when they are as close to their assignment as they possibly can be. Corners with this rare skill are the guys that become good NFL corners. That's the skill for playing position in NFL. That's the kind of throws that are made in NFL, week in and week out. In addition, he can play the run well, plays with amazing intensity, good tackler. He is a good athlete and has plenty of speed as well. DRC was my favourite pick due to his ability to turn arround, his hips, locate the ball, make that amazing athletic jump, and show great hands. Not due to his speed. His speed was a huge bonus to all those skills. "

4) Eric Decker, WR

" Again a very polished player at the position. Staggering stats. Reliable hands. Football IQ at its best. Most of all, he knows how to adjust his jump according to so many different situations, which is the skill that I look for, and that is one of the most important to differentiate college players from NFL players. Can take the huge hit and still make the catch. Early Doucet has the skills to replace Anquan Boldin. Eric Decker on other hand has not only the skill to replace Urban, but really improve this unit in depth that we have never seen before. Everyone said that we had the best recieving group. Yet the group costed us alot last year. Why? Because number 5 reciever was not good enough of a footballplayer. You can never have too many good recievers. Injuries are common and 4th and 5th in the group do get some important plays and role thorughout the season."

"With Decker we have 4 positions set in this unit. I would target either Eric Walter or Jason Avant in free agency to give us 5 great and reliable recievers. Both of the last mentioned have every year shown great hands and route running. Just look up their catch rating and the rare drops, that will tell you everything. I have watched both of these recievers alot and both are polished and sure targets. They are not major deep threaths but they are reliable on most west coast routes. These type of polished players set the chemistry and standard for a football team, even from a depth position."

5) Mike Kafka or John Skelton, QB

"When you have huge concerns on QB spot, you do everything to fix that. Two picks if necessary to find the guy and bring the competition back. It's the most important position. Kafka is the late round gem at QB, simply because of his technique that will translate to NFL. Has problems with the touch on the deep ball. But everything else has NFL written all over him in my opinion. Skelton has similar style to Joe Flacco. "

6) SydQuan Thompson /Walter Thurmond, CB

"Again i have picked another guy with the ability to change hips and head with correct timing and locate the ball. Especially Thompson is not even close to an athlete as Cox or DRC and that's why these two will fall to these late rounds. Thompson size is also an concern down deep. But he makes everything up with his technique. There is this special intensity in both these corners that I would consider at this stage of the draft. Walter is not my pick due to his ability to turn arround, it's not one of his skills, but he is a great zone corner, that we could use in certain situations. When the play is in front of him, he is amazing. Even at FS, there is possiblity to mix him in. DRC, Toler, Cox, McFadden, Adams and one of these two CB's make an interesting group to work with. "

7) Joe Pawelek, WILB

"Karlos Dansby version 2.0? I have never been that much of a fan of Dansby. He is a good LB, but not a superstar. This late in the draft, there is Pawelek, that plays much like Dansby, but i see him as a much better leader and much more loyal teamplayer from the reports and interviews. Outstanding coverage ability, and there are issues in the rungame. Even big issues at times. He tackles well, great technique, but gets broken by RB's from time to time. Struggles with lineman in space. Not good reading running lanes, like Dansby also struggles with. But a very athletic LB that can cover. WILB in our scheme is protected. In fact the only protected position in our front 7 which ensures you good stats no matter who your name is. SILB takes all the heavy load from FB's and lineman that get jumpthrough access. Pawelek brings the exact same skillset as Karlos Dansby. They even have similar frame, which makes the comparison even more valid looking him play. He got 7 pass deflections and 6 INTs in 09. But the tape is loaded of him making good coverage. Consistently. "
 
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Is there any other good ILB's in FA other than Foote...I really would like us to target someone else at ILB considering Footes age (while vet leadership is all well and good it can not make up for old man legs).

Chris Draft (BUF), Scott Fujita (NO), Danny Clark (NYG), Ryan Fowler (NYJ), Larry Izzo (NYJ), D.D. Lewis (SEA), Jeff Ulbrich (SF), and Angelo Crowell (TB) are all LBs who could be bodies to compete at the ILB position for the Cards if they're signed through free agency. Obviously, there's not a lot of real quality out there.
 

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Also, Devin McCourty doesn't like to tackle or get his hands on WRs. I don't think that Whis is going to want to have two guys that aren't physical at the LOS.
 

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I didn't put Spikes there because he is better fit for Hayes postion because of his lack of speed...Norwood is more of a rush LBer IMO...Daryl has decent size for a ILBer at 6'4 and I believe he weighed in at the senior bowl at 245lbs I think. Daryl needs to work on sheding blocks..or atleast thats what the scouting report says.

Daryl weighed in at 245lbs if he was holding a 20 pound weight maybe.

He weighed in at 6-2, 226. Weighed in only 4 lbs heavier at the combine today a weight he has never played with by the way, he has always been under 225 in college and will continue to be in the NFL.
 
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Daryl weighed in at 245lbs if he was holding a 20 pound weight maybe.

He weighed in at 6-2, 226.
Yikes...I guess I'll cross him off my list then...For some reason I thought he weighed in at 245 at the senior bowl.
 

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Chris Draft (BUF), Scott Fujita (NO), Danny Clark (NYG), Ryan Fowler (NYJ), Larry Izzo (NYJ), D.D. Lewis (SEA), Jeff Ulbrich (SF), and Angelo Crowell (TB) are all LBs who could be bodies to compete at the ILB position for the Cards if they're signed through free agency. Obviously, there's not a lot of real quality out there.
Of that list I think I'd go for Ryan Fowler because of his experince in the 3-4...don't know much about the rest of them
 

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Also, Devin McCourty doesn't like to tackle or get his hands on WRs. I don't think that Whis is going to want to have two guys that aren't physical at the LOS.

this scouting report say different on McCourty. I like the guy.


Devin McCourty CB, RutgersNFP Grade: 6.6 Scouting Report:
Devin McCourty: No. 21, CB, 5-11, 188

McCourty isn't afraid to play near the line of scrimmage and displays good physicality when asked to press receivers. He possesses the length and body control to reroute receivers off the line. Exhibits good speed as a straight-line athlete and has the ability to turn and run with receivers down the field. But at times, he gets overextend with his footwork, allowing opposing wideouts to easily side-step his bump and get into routes. He lacks ideal balance when asked to get out of his breaks. Also, he can be slow to get back up to speed and close on the football. But he does display impressive awareness and ball skills from the trail technique. Does a nice job reading the receiver's eyes and getting his long arms between ball and man. He isn't nearly as comfortable in off-man. He has a tendency to get too high in his drop and struggles to consistently click and close on plays in front of him
 

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this scouting report say different on McCourty. I like the guy.


Devin McCourty CB, RutgersNFP Grade: 6.6 Scouting Report:
Devin McCourty: No. 21, CB, 5-11, 188

McCourty isn't afraid to play near the line of scrimmage and displays good physicality when asked to press receivers. He possesses the length and body control to reroute receivers off the line. Exhibits good speed as a straight-line athlete and has the ability to turn and run with receivers down the field. But at times, he gets overextend with his footwork, allowing opposing wideouts to easily side-step his bump and get into routes. He lacks ideal balance when asked to get out of his breaks. Also, he can be slow to get back up to speed and close on the football. But he does display impressive awareness and ball skills from the trail technique. Does a nice job reading the receiver's eyes and getting his long arms between ball and man. He isn't nearly as comfortable in off-man. He has a tendency to get too high in his drop and struggles to consistently click and close on plays in front of him

Where's the part about him being a good tackler? Here's the scout on him from The Huddle Report:

Devin is a good pick in this draft for any team because he is smart and he has such good techniques, which speaks well for his work ethic.. You can see this in his play on the field when he plays man-to-man defense. In zone coverage, it's almost like he is bored or it's too easy for him. He has a problem when tackling. He is a drag down tackler, but is not aggressive enough right now for the next level. He will go through a learning curve at the next level. That learning curve will have to do with him realizing that there are a lot of players who have more talent than he does and he will have to be more aggressive and more precise in all phases of his game. Devin looks like he loves a challenge and will use just about anything he can find to step up to that challenge, so I have no doubt that once Devin settles in, he will become a very good cornerback, a core player and fan favorite for the team that drafts him. Devin could easily sneak in to the first round strictly based on his coverage skill in man-to-man defense, his character and work ethic. He can also impact on special teams so drafting Devin is a no brainer for a team that can give him time to mature more in his techniques and overall play on the field.
 

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It's becoming more and more apparent what the Cardinals' personnel philosophy is under the careful watch of Head Coach Ken Whisenhunt and General Manager Rod Graves...and it's a page right out of the Pittsburgh Steelers' book: identify the players on the current roster who may not still be in town a year or two down the road and stock those positions with draft picks.

I recently emailed Kent Somers and asked him the following questions:

1. What do you think of a trade of Anquan Boldin to the Dolphins for QB Tyler Thigpen and a 3rd round draft pick?

2. Do you think the Cardinals will pay CB Bryant McFadden $5M this year, none of which is guaranteed, in light of his struggles at RCB this past year?

3. Do you think the Cardinals in light of their immediate needs on defense at WILB, CB, rush DE and FS will address these needs in free agency?

4. Is it your own assessment that FS Rashad Johnson was a "big disappointment" as you termed it, or did you get that directly from the coaches? I also shared with him how impressed I was with Johnson's play at the end of the St. Louis game in Week 16 and in his start versus the Packers in Week 17 where he recorded 11 solo tackles (4 and 7 respectively).

Kent Somers' answers were...and, as you might imagine, they were predictable:

1. The Cardinals won't trade for a QB.

2. Yes, McFadden will stick at $5M, unless they sign a FA CB and draft one.

3. The Cardinals will wait two or three weeks into FA to let the dust settle and then try to make a few moves.

4. He said he sensed from the coaches Rashad Johnson was a disappointment, but that was earlier in the year and he agreed that he thought his play was improved at the end of the year.

With the exception of #4 (somewhat), these were not the answers I was hoping to hear. But, I have to say they are completely in line with what the current personnel philosophy seems to be.

This being the case, it was very significant to learn that Whiz has now assumed even greater control of the team's personnel decisions. Hey, as Bill Parcells so aptly put, "If you are going to ask me to cook the dinner, you'd better let me shop for the groceries."

Thus, I think it will be very interesting to see what moves Whiz makes in the next few months.

Point 1: It looks inevitable that FS Antrel Rolle will be released. Whiz has said the team wants to re-sign him. Rolle has said he'd like to play for the Dolphins. Now it seems the Bears are interested.

Suddenly FS Darren Sharper is on the market...but I would be very surprised if he is still un-signed in the third week of FA.

Then, there's Ryan Clark of the Steelers...now he's a younger player whom the Steelers are extremely high on. Does Whiz make a move for Clark? Again, three weeks into FA might not work, unless Clark is holding out for primo $$$$.

Point 2: While Whiz has done a good job of stocking the cupboard behind the likes of DE Antonio Smith (Calais Campbell, Kenny Iwebema, Alan Branch), OLB Chike Okeafor (Cody Brown, Will Davis, Mark Washington, Stevie Baggs), CB Bryant McFadden (Greg Toler), FS Antrel Rolle (Rashad Johnson), T Mike Gandy (Brandon Keith, Herman Johnson), WR Anquan Boldin (Steve Breaston, Early Doucet), Edgerrin James (Tim Hightower, Beanie Wells), etc.....

This year the cupboard is bare most significantly behind Karlos Dansby at WILB and Matt Leinart at QB...

And one could argue that the cupbaord is not deep behind the following players who will soon become UFAs: G Deuce Lutui (although Brandon Keith or Herman Johnson might fit nicely there with the other at RT), TE Ben Patrick, FB (totally unsettled at this point), SILB Gerald Hayes (Reggie Walker has a chance here but no one has been drafted here in Whiz's three years and Hayes looks like a question mark due to his back issues), and NT Gabe Watson.

In addition, the team needs depth at CB.

Therefore, in keeping with the stocking the supboard model, we probably just uncovered the Cardinals draft direction:

WILB, QB, G, TE, FB, SILB, NT, CB, FS.

While we're at it, lets take a look at the potential in-house options at these positions:

WILB: Is it safe to say that Ali Highsmith has little to no shot there? Highsmith struggled this year when he was temporarily used there when Dansby was hurt. With another year in John Lott's program and a strong push on Highsmith's part, can he rise to the occasion? At this point it looks like a stretch, but some players when presented with a window of opportunity have seized such an opportunity. In additon, could Mark Washington be an option there? We haven't seen much of this kid yet, but at an athletic 6-3, 245, who knows? The talk from the coaches with regard to Washington has been very positive...but the assumption is as an OLB.

Conclusion: The team needs a starter here, either through FA or the draft, Many of us have clamored for Larry Foote (Lions) and maybe he is a guy who would still be on the market two to three weeks into FA. But the FA market there looks very thin. If the team doesn't land a starter in FA, it would seem imperative that they use the #26 pick here to select Sean Weatherspoon (6-1, 235, Missouri) or Brandon Spikes (6-3, 245, Florida)...although I also have a sneaking suspicion that Navorro Bowman (6-1, 230, Penn St.), has the skill set to be a real factor at the position. Spikes has the more proto-typical size, but is not as fast or quick as Weatherspoon or Bowman. Sean Lee (6-2, 234, Penn. St.) is a tackling machine, but may seem better suited inevitable at SILB. Some second to third round options may incude Daryl Washington (6-3, 228, TCU) and Micah Johnson (6-2, 252, Kentucky).

QB: The coaches have said they'd like to re-sign Brian St. Pierre, but need to feel assured that his back is healthy enough (apparently he does not require surgery on his inflamed disc). The FA market seems very thin. Chad Pennington has shoulder issues. Charlie Batch has had injury issues of his own and is getting up there in age. Daunte Culpepper appears more healthy now, but is he a fit? David Carr has the big arm, but has never really had sustained success in the league.

In the draft, Somers was pretty sure the Cardinals would look to the middle rounds for a QB...and it's not a deep draft in QBs, to say the least. maybe you go with one of the bigger arms like a Jarrett Brown (WVU) or John Skelton (Fordham), both of whom are major projects.

The question is, and this is why I think exploring trade options might be wise, with Matt Leinart's contract situation looming and the uncertainty of how he is going to perform this year, wouldn't it make the QB situation a higher priority?

G: As mentioned, whomever does not win the RT job (Brandon Keith or Herman Johnson) could be the logical next player in line at G. Keith and Johnson playing side by side down the road might be a formidible tandem.

The player I really like in this draft is Mike Johnson (6-6, 305, Alabama) and if he is on the board in the third round I would be ecstatic to see the Cardinals take him.

TE: This position gets shored up quickly at least for next year if the team re-signs Anthony Becht to pair with improved starter Ben Patrick. The coaches like Stephen Spach, who should be stronger and may swing as an H-back (TE/FB combo). And it has a pass receiving threat in Dominique Byrd.

Just the same, with Patrick heading into a contract year and Becht getting older, it would be right in keeping with the team's philosophy to draft a TE this year...two to keep an eye on in rounds 4-5: Ed Dickson (6-5, 243, Oregon) and Colin Peek (6-5, 254, Alabama).

While some are thinking that the Cardinals might use the #26 on Jermaine Gresham (6-6, 262, Oklahoma), and I wouldn't rule that out, particularly if the team trades Anquan Boldin, I wonder if Whiz would rather have a better blocker...which is why Rob Gronkwoski (6-3, 255, Arizona) is a nicer fit, when healthy. To nab Gronkwoski the Cardinals would probably have to do so in Round 2, as he may not last much farther beyond that point.

FB: The situation solves itself if Dan Kreider is re-signed. But I think Whiz wants a FB who can thump and catch. The Cardinals picked up Nehemiah Broughton (5-11, 255) late in the year and saved Justin Green (6-0, 246) on the IR They also recently signed Reagan Mauia to a future's contract, so they have three in-house options already, if they are high on those three.

The guy in the draft that intrigues me is Dorin Dickerson (6-2, 230, Pittsburgh) who is an outstanding all-purpose FB prospect.

SILB: Reggie Walker was one of the big surprises in camp last year. He stepped up big-time in the pre-season games, making textbook hits and wrap-up tackles at the goal-line. He also contributed well on STs. He looks like a keeper, at least as a short yardage ILB. The question is, can he step in and start if need be?

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Cardinals took a guy like Jamar Cheney (6-1, 238, Mississippi St.), Pat Angerer (6-1, 234, Iowa) or Ryan D'Imperio (6-3, 240) later on in the draft.

NT: The team should tender Gabe Watson (6-4, 329) who is headed into a contract year and is still trying to return to form following his knee injury two years ago. The team may decide to re-sign Bryan Robinson (6-4, 304) who has held down the fort decently and provided leadership, but is not a real stalwart there. But, what about Alan Branch (6-5, 338)? Sure, he made huge strides as a backup DE...but the Cardinals traded up to get this guy and he belongs in the starting lineup, otherwise they are likely just grooming him to be someone else's 3-4 DE, because he hits free agency after this year as well. This is a guy they gave up a 4th rounder for to trade up into the early 2nd round three years ago.

It's quite possible the Cardinals may take one of the two top NTs in this draft, Dan Williams (6-2, 310, Tennessee) or Terrence Cody (6-5, 365). The Cardinals would have to take Williams at #26, and if he's gone they might roll the dice on Cody there as well, although if they pick up a 2nd rounder for Boldin, Cody might be available then.

CB: Somers is pretty sure the Cardinals will keep McFadden at $5M. If that's the case they have to address the depth. Ralph Brown has been a cagy veteran, but is limited physically. Michael Adams is a STs star, but is raw in experience and technique, although he will run support as well and tough as anyone in the group. Not too sure what the Cardinals have in PS player Rashad Barksdale and recent signee Trumaine McBride. Perhaps one of them will surprise.

With McFadden in a contract year, the Cardinals need to draft another CB, and they will have a plethora of options starting at #26 with the likes of Kyle Wilson (5-10, 190, Boise St.), Devin McCourty (5-11, 180, Rutgers) and Kareem Jackson (5-11, 185, Alabama).

Good choices for taller CBs in Rounds 2-3 may be Trevard Lindley (6-0, 178, Kentucky), Perrish Cox (6-1, 195, Oklahoma St.), Brandon Ghee (6-0, 190, Wake Forest) and Brian Jackson (6-1, 202, Oklahoma).

Thus, let's say the Cardinals acquire a 2nd rounder for Boldin, based on the stocking the supbaord philosophy, this may be similar to what we will see come the draft:

1. Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers.
2a. Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
2b. Rob Gronkwski, TE, Arizona
3. Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
4. Micah Johnson, LB, Kentucky
5. John Skelton, QB, Fordham
6. Jamar Cheney, LB, Mississippi St.
7. Dorin Dickerson, FB, Pittsburgh

OR

1. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
2a. Navorro Bowman, LB, Penn. St.
2b. Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
3. Dan LeFevour, QB, Western Michigan
4. Antonio Coleman, LB, Auburn
5. Mitch Petrus, G, Arkansas
6. Ryan D'Imperio, LB, Rutgers
7. Jim Dray, TE, Stanford

If you want Dorin Dickerson, who is listed as a TE, be prepared to take him in the top 100. He just ran a 4.4 flat, and looked silky smooth running routes and catching the ball. Add that he played at Pitt, and he is a 3rd rounder now.
 

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