Top Five Busts In Cardinal History

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Worse, it's scraping the data without permission.

This is a much different argument. It’s not focusing on the usefulness of ai, but rather the ethical/legal usage case. I get this. Particularly from an author.

 

[azgreg]

After reading this thread maybe I should change the title to Top 55 Busts in Cardinal History.

 

[kerouac9]

I don’t knowing you’re oversimplifying or don’t fully understand the capabilities of AI.

In the hands of novice AI is still more than what you posit. In the hands of a trained user it’s a pretty powerful tool. We (humans) analyze data from a few sources. And, as you frequently point out, often include bad sources in that data gathering and analysis. AI can integrate patterns tha it learns from millions of documents. And millions of documents across multiple fields. And it can pull concepts from one field into another where applicable. As a result it often comes with new “ideas.” Thinking it this way: our ideas are Lego blocks. AI is like an extremely fast builder of Lego structures. And it combines Lego blocks in ways we may not think to combine them. So it does give us unique perspectives (I hesitate to call them “ideas” but it’s not far from off from ideas). It may also explore reasoning paths that we don’t because we have finite time and attention - it doesn’t. It can analyze so much more in so much less time. Don’t doesn’t have to be as selective. And though it’s certainly not infallible, we recognize that we are certainly highly fallible. So our limiting of lines of reasoning is more likely fraught with poor lines of reasoning rather than a more expansive exercise which likely takes more data and patterns into consideration.

If you think AI is merely a tool for summarization you are missing the game. And that’s going to make you a dinosaur in short order.

We’ll see. I mean the results from this particular use case seem to support my point.

The primary successful use cases I’ve seen from AI in my work and play are primarily summarization. There are no unique, deep data sets on Cards draft pick performance.

I’ve yet to be impressed with an AI analysis use case, although I agree that its benefit is the sheer amount of data it can ingest. Whether it can interpret that data effectively without intense amounts of training has yet to be seen.

 

[Card4Life]

Rosen (2018)
Stouffer (1987)
Wadsworth (1998)
Bryant (2002)
Duncan (1984)

*honorable mention - Steve Little (1978) K/P taken in 1st round.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We’ll see. I mean the results from this particular use case seem to support my point.

The primary successful use cases I’ve seen from AI in my work and play are primarily summarization. There are no unique, deep data sets on Cards draft pick performance.

I’ve yet to be impressed with an AI analysis use case, although I agree that its benefit is the sheer amount of data it can ingest. Whether it can interpret that data effectively without intense amounts of training has yet to be seen.

Well yeah, we have to recognize it’s still a tool. Until it reaches self-actualization, it’s a tool. Have to know how to maximize it like any other tool. If we reach self-actualization (and some ai experts think it is posssible it’s happened and we don’t know it) all bets are off (actually, not all bets - skynet is almost a certainty imo).

 

[azgreg]

Rosen (2018)

How can a guy who had a trading card sell for $26K be labeled a bust?

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[LoyaltyisaCurse]

From bust to busted!

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How does one smuggle groceries!?

 

[some dumb guy]

Let's all remember: The Brain, named itself!!
You recognize the color RED, because you were told it was red.
I learned cursive writing, now it's no longer important
AI is in its infancy and most of us don't believe its value right now but just like the invention of the telephone, radio, tv, the computer and smart phones which pretty much wiped out the need for all those first inventions for the upcoming generations. It's here to stay. Think about how many times you've asked for help from your kids or grandkids with technology. And I know it's the wrong thread, but Beer is not just for savages....didn't want to forget to get that in....LOL

 

[some dumb guy]

From bust to busted!

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How does one smuggle groceries!?

I just read this, talk about irony!

 

[oaken1]

IIRC he was a bad tackle and refused to play OG for us. He went to the Cowgirls as an OG, and was very good. Basically, he just didn't want to play for us lol

no... he was a mismatch at tackle,...actually requested to be moved to guard but the team would not move him...so he left, went to dallas, and became a pro bowl guard

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Who GAF about Gemini? AI is irrelevant in any conversation.

Don't be one of those guys... AI has merit in lots of conversations...

 

[pemory09]

Bryant Johnson
Ryan "Lol Sweetness" Williams
Clyde Duncan
Isaiah Simmons
Josh Rosen

Wow, a Clyde Duncan reference! That ‘84 team would have been even scarier on offense if Duncan had done, well, anything.

 

[pemory09]

No love here for Anthony Bell (drafted 5th overall in ‘86)???

 

[TJ]

No Leonard Davis?

He was played out of position. Everyone with half a brain knew he was a guard and not a tackle

 

[Stout]

Don't be one of those guys... AI has merit in lots of conversations...

In programming and applications like that? Certainly. In conversations? Absolutely not. YOU don't be one of those guys.

 

[NuttinButTDs]

As noted, folks have different players listed. This is based on their, experience and inherent bias and logic of what they considered a bust. Some of it also based on what they remember.

So if I prompt AI to wade through the history of Cardinal players and give AI the guardrails on what I considered a bust, it is just doing the grunt work.

If you don’t give guardrails than it scrapes data and uses its reasoning, which could be better than the promoters. Having that back and forth might give you a better answer.

But as a new member of AARP, what do I know about technology.

 

[oaken1]

As noted, folks have different players listed. This is based on their, experience and inherent bias and logic of what they considered a bust. Some of it also based on what they remember.

So if I prompt AI to wade through the history of Cardinal players and give AI the guardrails on what I considered a bust, it is just doing the grunt work.

If you don’t give guardrails than it scrapes data and uses its reasoning, which could be better than the promoters. Having that back and forth might give you a better answer.

But as a new member of AARP, what do I know about technology.

you got it right NutzinButtz... just as any tool it is only effective when properly used...and currently using AI is not for the lazy...I have gotten some great stuff from it when I spent a lot of time fine tuning parameters

 

[kerouac9]

uses its reasoning

Don’t fall for the marketing. It can’t reason.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

Rosen (2018)
Stouffer (1987)
Wadsworth (1998)
Bryant (2002)
Duncan (1984)

*honorable mention - Steve Little (1978) K/P taken in 1st round.

Dont forget Wr Bryant Johnson,Qb Steve Pizarkowicz,lb Anthony Bell the list goes on and on

 

[PACardsFan]

Sadly, there are too many to count! Which explains why we haven’t won an NFL championship in 77 years, the largest current drought in ANY sports league. The only common denominator is THE BIDWILL FAMILY. There has to be a way a fan base can petition the NFL for him to be forced to sell this franchise. I know we have lawyers in the house. We need to start a petition of sorts. It would be the single greatest contribution made by ASFN. Can we start a thread and pin it HIGH?

 

[Stout]

Don't be one of those guys... AI has merit in lots of conversations...

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[Stout]

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To say nothing of the evils of scraping.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

david johnson killed me
daryl washington killed me

 

[dreamcastrocks]

In programming and applications like that? Certainly. In conversations? Absolutely not. YOU don't be one of those guys.

I actively talk about AI quite often.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

david johnson killed me
daryl washington killed me

Isaiah Simmons killed me.