Top Five Busts In Cardinal History

[Rohinaz]

Jonathan Cooper
Ryan Williams
Isiah Simmons
Robert Nkemdichi
Josh Rosen

Wendell Bryant and Matt Leinart can squeeze in too

Kyler is No1 on the list because of the 2nd contract. the rest of your list didnt come close to a quarter billion dollar mistake. Kyler is 1st through 5th, then simmions, nkemdichi

 

[slanidrac16]

You simply can’t limit this list to just 5.

But add Steve Pisarkawiczgbggu to the list.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I thought Cooper was going to anchor the line for a decade.

I was in New York when we drafted him. So it was bound to happen

 

[Dayman]

Thomas Jones was a huge bust while he was here. Drafted 7th overall and traded after 3 seasons for Marquise Walker who was cut before the season started. Never broke 550 yards in a season, but he did break his hand answering the phone.

The fact that he went on to be a highly productive player elsewhere makes it even worse.

 

[K14Life]

No Leonard Davis?

 

[Stout]

Really depends on how to define a bust.

I do not see Kyler as a bust. It didn't pan out, but I would NOT use the label bust for a player that was in the MVP running for one season and got a massive 2nd contract.

IMO a bust a player that completely failed. I would include players failling due to mental immaturity, but not players that got career ending injuries. Hence I see Boston as a bust, but do not see Wadsworth and Cooper as busts.

Well, part of a season, anyway.

Yeah, Kyler wasn't a bust. A go-nowhere albatross, but not a bust.

 

[Stout]

Gemini's answer

1. Matt Leinart (QB) | Round 1, Pick 10 (2006)​

Perhaps the most famous bust in franchise history, Leinart was a Heisman winner coming off a legendary career at USC. He was expected to be the franchise savior, but he never adjusted to the speed of the NFL.

• The Outcome: He was eventually benched for a veteran Kurt Warner, who led the team to its only Super Bowl appearance. Leinart finished his Cardinals career with more interceptions (20) than touchdowns (14).

2. Levi Brown (OT) | Round 1, Pick 5 (2007)​

Brown is often cited as the team’s worst pick because of who was still on the board. The Cardinals chose him to stabilize the offensive line, passing on future Hall of Famers Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, and Darrelle Revis.

• The Outcome: Brown struggled immensely with pass protection throughout his tenure, famously allowing 55 sacks and over 300 pressures during his time in Arizona.

3. Josh Rosen (QB) | Round 1, Pick 10 (2018)​

The Cardinals traded up to get Rosen, who famously claimed there were "nine mistakes" made ahead of him.

• The Outcome: After a disastrous 3–13 rookie season where he threw 11 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, the team took the unprecedented step of drafting Kyler Murray #1 overall the following year and trading Rosen to the Dolphins. He lasted only one season in Arizona.

4. Andre Wadsworth (DE) | Round 1, Pick 3 (1998)​

Wadsworth was a physical specimen from Florida State and was expected to be a perennial Pro Bowler.

• The Outcome: His career was derailed by a long rookie contract holdout followed by chronic knee injuries. He played only 36 games over three seasons, recording just 8 sacks before his NFL career ended prematurely.

5. Jonathan Cooper (OG) | Round 1, Pick 7 (2013)​

Cooper was one of the most athletic guard prospects in years, but a broken leg in his first preseason changed the trajectory of his career.

• The Outcome: He never regained the explosive lateral movement that made him a top-10 pick. He was eventually used as a "throw-in" trade piece to the Patriots in exchange for Chandler Jones.

Who GAF about Gemini? AI is irrelevant in any conversation.

 

[TRW]

Bryant Johnson
Ryan "Lol Sweetness" Williams
Clyde Duncan
Isaiah Simmons
Josh Rosen

 

[vince56]

No Leonard Davis?

Not a bust. He was a decent player for us and the Cowboys.

 

[Stout]

Not a bust. He was a decent player for us and the Cowboys.

IIRC he was a bad tackle and refused to play OG for us. He went to the Cowgirls as an OG, and was very good. Basically, he just didn't want to play for us lol

 

[kerouac9]

IIRC he was a bad tackle and refused to play OG for us. He went to the Cowgirls as an OG, and was very good. Basically, he just didn't want to play for us lol

Denny put him at OT because of his salary and draft status.

 

[vince56]

IIRC he was a bad tackle and refused to play OG for us. He went to the Cowgirls as an OG, and was very good. Basically, he just didn't want to play for us lol

He played guard for his first few seasons for us and was voted 4th place for AP offensive rookie of the year. He played several seasons for us at tackle and while he wasn’t a world beater, he was solid, though much like Levi he had a penchant for untimely false starts.

Agreed he was a better guard than tackle, but I blame Denny and his horrid coaching staff for misusing him more than I blame the player for refusing to play a position.

 

[juza76]

Josh Rosen
Buster Davis (just a couple of months after being selected, he was released, ending his NFL career which, to be honest, never really started.) Comic
Jonathan Cooper
Isaiah Simmons
Cody Brown

 

[Stout]

He played guard for his first few seasons for us and was voted 4th place for AP offensive rookie of the year. He played several seasons for us at tackle and while he wasn’t a world beater, he was solid, though much like Levi he had a penchant for untimely false starts.

Agreed he was a better guard than tackle, but I blame Denny and his horrid coaching staff for misusing him more than I blame the player for refusing to play a position.

Thanks for clearing it up. I have a terrible memory and my mind oversimplified the situation.

 

[azgreg]

I have a terrible memory

I have a good memory bit it's short.

 

[PDXChris]

Who GAF about Gemini? AI is irrelevant in any conversation.

I do because it is actually unbiased of feelings and for the most part captured what most here has said here. Since you don't "GAF", why are you responding because you "GAF" enough to respond?

 

[Dback Jon]

Kyler is No1 on the list because of the 2nd contract. the rest of your list didnt come close to a quarter billion dollar mistake. Kyler is 1st through 5th, then simmions, nkemdichi

That wasn't Kyler's fault Keim was dumb enough to do that.

Kyler is not a bust by any means

 

[Dback Jon]

I have a good memory bit it's short.

So you are the kyler of memories

 

[Stout]

I do because it is actually unbiased of feelings and for the most part captured what most here has said here. Since you don't "GAF", why are you responding because you "GAF" enough to respond?

Because this form of AI is a canker and I will call it out at every opportunity. This kind of AI is also notoriously wrong on many levels on many things, so trusting AI for anything like this is pretty dumb. But, hey, at least we got the opinion of...well, nobody lol

 

[kerouac9]

I do because it is actually unbiased of feelings and for the most part captured what most here has said here. Since you don't "GAF", why are you responding because you "GAF" enough to respond?

For me it’s because people who do this aren’t offering anything to the board or adding value.

Google is just summarizing what a handful of websites (including this one, perhaps) are saying/have said. Its not doing anything original or unearthing new data.

 

[Stout]

For me it’s because people who do this aren’t offering anything to the board or adding value.

Google is just summarizing what a handful of websites (including this one, perhaps) are saying/have said. Its not doing anything original or unearthing new data.

Worse, it's scraping the data without permission.

 

[Phrazbit]

Marvin Harrison Jr looking at this list with hunger.

 

[Card'em]

How can you guys forget to put Wendell Bryant on this list. He was the 12th pick of the first round in 2002 and out of the league for good after 3 years. A super bust.

 

[vince56]

How can you guys forget to put Wendell Bryant on this list. He was the 12th pick of the first round in 2002 and out of the league for good after 3 years. A super bust.

I’m concerned Darius Robinson is on-track to repeat this history.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

For me it’s because people who do this aren’t offering anything to the board or adding value.

Google is just summarizing what a handful of websites (including this one, perhaps) are saying/have said. Its not doing anything original or unearthing new data.

I don’t knowing you’re oversimplifying or don’t fully understand the capabilities of AI.

In the hands of novice AI is still more than what you posit. In the hands of a trained user it’s a pretty powerful tool. We (humans) analyze data from a few sources. And, as you frequently point out, often include bad sources in that data gathering and analysis. AI can integrate patterns tha it learns from millions of documents. And millions of documents across multiple fields. And it can pull concepts from one field into another where applicable. As a result it often comes with new “ideas.” Thinking it this way: our ideas are Lego blocks. AI is like an extremely fast builder of Lego structures. And it combines Lego blocks in ways we may not think to combine them. So it does give us unique perspectives (I hesitate to call them “ideas” but it’s not far from off from ideas). It may also explore reasoning paths that we don’t because we have finite time and attention - it doesn’t. It can analyze so much more in so much less time. Don’t doesn’t have to be as selective. And though it’s certainly not infallible, we recognize that we are certainly highly fallible. So our limiting of lines of reasoning is more likely fraught with poor lines of reasoning rather than a more expansive exercise which likely takes more data and patterns into consideration.

If you think AI is merely a tool for summarization you are missing the game. And that’s going to make you a dinosaur in short order.