Titan Aftermath

[Harry]

Even though it’s only been a few weeks, it seems like ages ago I was on this site defending Gannon. Then came the Titans game. In 60 years that may have been the worst performance I’ve seen by an NFL team. The ease with which the Titans took Harrison out of the game convinced me Petzing had to go. Then for the third week in a row Rallis allowed the opposition to steal a game by showing the most passive resistance possible.

You can get one side of the ball wrong and it’s a weakness. Head Coaches typically are experts on only one side of the ball. If you get both sides wrong you have a major judgment issue. Add in taking a player apart on the sidelines instead of in private shows a lacks of leadership sophistication that cannot be accepted from a Head Coach. I’m not at all certain Bidwill has the intestinal fortitude it takes to absorb another hit, but there seems little option to keep a Head Coach if you’re changing both coordinators.

So who comes in. The Cards should have enough strength to be competitive by the defensive side alone. I’d hire Robert Saleh if he’d take the job. He failed to win with the Jets. A team that has been a disaster for awhile. You have to go back 15 years to find consistency in that franchise. Of course in AZ you have to accept an extraordinary history of failure under the same family ownership. Still Saleh is a very aggressive defensive mind and the Cards need that. Saleh mistakenly hired Nathaniel Hackett as the Jets OC to insure signing Aaron Rodgers. Injury led to disaster, but the problem was greater than that. Ossenfort must be certain a truly solid OC selection with QB development history(no, not to help Murray) must be chosen. If Saleh isn’t flexible; look elsewhere. Keeping Ossenfort reflects that I believe he’s made great strides with the roster. BTW Gruden has the talent, but his racist emails make his selection impractical. I do know there are owners who might take that risk. Racism is a deal killer for me.

Now the hard part. So far this season I’ve made 3 major mistakes. Not all of them will be apparent to everyone reading this. It’s mostly not about articles, but it is board related. For years I’ve advised player to know when it’s time. For me that time has come. It’s not that I’ll disappear, but I need to carry a much lower profile. I’ll still toss in comments here and there. It’s time to stop preaching. In the past I’ve backed off only to be drawn back in. This time I think it’s for real. I won’t innumerate the reasons for the errors. Suffice it to say, it’s just time. Thanks for putting up with me to those who’ve agreed with me and those who haven’t. Diversity of opinion is necessary to have a worthwhile board. It’s been a great way to wind down a career. I hope all of you are around long enough to get the team you deserve.

 

[Mainstreet]

Now the hard part. So far this season I’ve made 3 major mistakes. Not all of them will be apparent to everyone reading this. It’s mostly not about articles, but it is board related. For years I’ve advised player to know when it’s time. For me that time has come. It’s not that I’ll disappear, but I need to carry a much lower profile. I’ll still toss in comments here and there. It’s time to stop preaching. In the past I’ve backed off only to be drawn back in. This time I think it’s for real. I won’t innumerate the reasons for the errors. Suffice it to say, it’s just time. Thanks for putting up with me to those who’ve agreed with me and those who haven’t. Diversity of opinion is necessary to have a worthwhile board. It’s been a great way to wind down a career. I hope all of you are around long enough to get the team you deserve.

Harry, no need to feel pressure to carry the load. Contribute as much or as little as you like. Your opinions are always valued.

It's great simply having you share your knowledge when you feel like it, but do it on your terms.

 

[pemory09]

As always Harry, great commentary and observations—thank you. As for stepping away…well, just know that your notes and insights will be greatly missed.

 

[Dback Jon]

Harry, no need to feel pressure to carry the load. Contribute as much or as little as you like. Your opinions are always valued.

It's great simply having you share your knowledge when you feel like it, but do it on your terms.

Ditto what Mainstreet says

 

[BirdGangThing]

Even though it’s only been a few weeks, it seems like ages ago I was on this site defending Gannon. Then came the Titans game. In 60 years that may have been the worst performance I’ve seen by an NFL team. The ease with which the Titans took Harrison out of the game convinced me Petzing had to go. Then for the third week in a row Rallis allowed the opposition to steal a game by showing the most passive resistance possible.

You can get one side of the ball wrong and it’s a weakness. Head Coaches typically are experts on only one side of the ball. If you get both sides wrong you have a major judgment issue. Add in taking a player apart on the sidelines instead of in private shows a lacks of leadership sophistication that cannot be accepted from a Head Coach. I’m not at all certain Bidwill has the intestinal fortitude it takes to absorb another hit, but there seems little option to keep a Head Coach if you’re changing both coordinators.

So who comes in. The Cards should have enough strength to be competitive by the defensive side alone. I’d hire Robert Saleh if he’d take the job. He failed to win with the Jets. A team that has been a disaster for awhile. You have to go back 15 years to find consistency in that franchise. Of course in AZ you have to accept an extraordinary history of failure under the same family ownership. Still Saleh is a very aggressive defensive mind and the Cards need that. Saleh mistakenly hired Nathaniel Hackett as the Jets OC to insure signing Aaron Rodgers. Injury led to disaster, but the problem was greater than that. Ossenfort must be certain a truly solid OC selection with QB development history(no, not to help Murray) must be chosen. If Saleh isn’t flexible; look elsewhere. Keeping Ossenfort reflects that I believe he’s made great strides with the roster. BTW Gruden has the talent, but his racist emails make his selection impractical. I do know there are owners who might take that risk. Racism is a deal killer for me.

Now the hard part. So far this season I’ve made 3 major mistakes. Not all of them will be apparent to everyone reading this. It’s mostly not about articles, but it is board related. For years I’ve advised player to know when it’s time. For me that time has come. It’s not that I’ll disappear, but I need to carry a much lower profile. I’ll still toss in comments here and there. It’s time to stop preaching. In the past I’ve backed off only to be drawn back in. This time I think it’s for real. I won’t innumerate the reasons for the errors. Suffice it to say, it’s just time. Thanks for putting up with me to those who’ve agreed with me and those who haven’t. Diversity of opinion is necessary to have a worthwhile board. It’s been a great way to wind down a career. I hope all of you are around long enough to get the team you deserve.

love you and your stuff man

 

[phillycard]

Even though it’s only been a few weeks, it seems like ages ago I was on this site defending Gannon. Then came the Titans game. In 60 years that may have been the worst performance I’ve seen by an NFL team. The ease with which the Titans took Harrison out of the game convinced me Petzing had to go. Then for the third week in a row Rallis allowed the opposition to steal a game by showing the most passive resistance possible.

You can get one side of the ball wrong and it’s a weakness. Head Coaches typically are experts on only one side of the ball. If you get both sides wrong you have a major judgment issue. Add in taking a player apart on the sidelines instead of in private shows a lacks of leadership sophistication that cannot be accepted from a Head Coach. I’m not at all certain Bidwill has the intestinal fortitude it takes to absorb another hit, but there seems little option to keep a Head Coach if you’re changing both coordinators.

So who comes in. The Cards should have enough strength to be competitive by the defensive side alone. I’d hire Robert Saleh if he’d take the job. He failed to win with the Jets. A team that has been a disaster for awhile. You have to go back 15 years to find consistency in that franchise. Of course in AZ you have to accept an extraordinary history of failure under the same family ownership. Still Saleh is a very aggressive defensive mind and the Cards need that. Saleh mistakenly hired Nathaniel Hackett as the Jets OC to insure signing Aaron Rodgers. Injury led to disaster, but the problem was greater than that. Ossenfort must be certain a truly solid OC selection with QB development history(no, not to help Murray) must be chosen. If Saleh isn’t flexible; look elsewhere. Keeping Ossenfort reflects that I believe he’s made great strides with the roster. BTW Gruden has the talent, but his racist emails make his selection impractical. I do know there are owners who might take that risk. Racism is a deal killer for me.

Now the hard part. So far this season I’ve made 3 major mistakes. Not all of them will be apparent to everyone reading this. It’s mostly not about articles, but it is board related. For years I’ve advised player to know when it’s time. For me that time has come. It’s not that I’ll disappear, but I need to carry a much lower profile. I’ll still toss in comments here and there. It’s time to stop preaching. In the past I’ve backed off only to be drawn back in. This time I think it’s for real. I won’t innumerate the reasons for the errors. Suffice it to say, it’s just time. Thanks for putting up with me to those who’ve agreed with me and those who haven’t. Diversity of opinion is necessary to have a worthwhile board. It’s been a great way to wind down a career. I hope all of you are around long enough to get the team you deserve.

Christ O Mighty Harry! This team has driven you to this??? Sheez!!! We are truly victims of abuse as Cardinals fans, and this is proof positive that you never know what the losing will do to you. I pray I never get to this point. I hope they give you a reason to come back. We need you man.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Even though it’s only been a few weeks, it seems like ages ago I was on this site defending Gannon. Then came the Titans game. In 60 years that may have been the worst performance I’ve seen by an NFL team. The ease with which the Titans took Harrison out of the game convinced me Petzing had to go. Then for the third week in a row Rallis allowed the opposition to steal a game by showing the most passive resistance possible.

You can get one side of the ball wrong and it’s a weakness. Head Coaches typically are experts on only one side of the ball. If you get both sides wrong you have a major judgment issue. Add in taking a player apart on the sidelines instead of in private shows a lacks of leadership sophistication that cannot be accepted from a Head Coach. I’m not at all certain Bidwill has the intestinal fortitude it takes to absorb another hit, but there seems little option to keep a Head Coach if you’re changing both coordinators.

So who comes in. The Cards should have enough strength to be competitive by the defensive side alone. I’d hire Robert Saleh if he’d take the job. He failed to win with the Jets. A team that has been a disaster for awhile. You have to go back 15 years to find consistency in that franchise. Of course in AZ you have to accept an extraordinary history of failure under the same family ownership. Still Saleh is a very aggressive defensive mind and the Cards need that. Saleh mistakenly hired Nathaniel Hackett as the Jets OC to insure signing Aaron Rodgers. Injury led to disaster, but the problem was greater than that. Ossenfort must be certain a truly solid OC selection with QB development history(no, not to help Murray) must be chosen. If Saleh isn’t flexible; look elsewhere. Keeping Ossenfort reflects that I believe he’s made great strides with the roster. BTW Gruden has the talent, but his racist emails make his selection impractical. I do know there are owners who might take that risk. Racism is a deal killer for me.

Now the hard part. So far this season I’ve made 3 major mistakes. Not all of them will be apparent to everyone reading this. It’s mostly not about articles, but it is board related. For years I’ve advised player to know when it’s time. For me that time has come. It’s not that I’ll disappear, but I need to carry a much lower profile. I’ll still toss in comments here and there. It’s time to stop preaching. In the past I’ve backed off only to be drawn back in. This time I think it’s for real. I won’t innumerate the reasons for the errors. Suffice it to say, it’s just time. Thanks for putting up with me to those who’ve agreed with me and those who haven’t. Diversity of opinion is necessary to have a worthwhile board. It’s been a great way to wind down a career. I hope all of you are around long enough to get the team you deserve.

You absolutely don't need to carry a much lower profile. Your analysis is far more valuable to many of us than any of the local mouthpieces or podcasters. You have certainly been one of my favorite voices on the team over the years - stay as long as you can.

 

[PJ1]

I know you have followed this mess for a long time. I have as well but not as long as you. You are knowledgeable, insightful and always a gentleman. It does get tiring but for selfish reasons I hope you don’t cut back at all. You are a class act.

 

[jf-08]

Even though it’s only been a few weeks, it seems like ages ago I was on this site defending Gannon. Then came the Titans game. In 60 years that may have been the worst performance I’ve seen by an NFL team. The ease with which the Titans took Harrison out of the game convinced me Petzing had to go. Then for the third week in a row Rallis allowed the opposition to steal a game by showing the most passive resistance possible.

You can get one side of the ball wrong and it’s a weakness. Head Coaches typically are experts on only one side of the ball. If you get both sides wrong you have a major judgment issue. Add in taking a player apart on the sidelines instead of in private shows a lacks of leadership sophistication that cannot be accepted from a Head Coach. I’m not at all certain Bidwill has the intestinal fortitude it takes to absorb another hit, but there seems little option to keep a Head Coach if you’re changing both coordinators.

So who comes in. The Cards should have enough strength to be competitive by the defensive side alone. I’d hire Robert Saleh if he’d take the job. He failed to win with the Jets. A team that has been a disaster for awhile. You have to go back 15 years to find consistency in that franchise. Of course in AZ you have to accept an extraordinary history of failure under the same family ownership. Still Saleh is a very aggressive defensive mind and the Cards need that. Saleh mistakenly hired Nathaniel Hackett as the Jets OC to insure signing Aaron Rodgers. Injury led to disaster, but the problem was greater than that. Ossenfort must be certain a truly solid OC selection with QB development history(no, not to help Murray) must be chosen. If Saleh isn’t flexible; look elsewhere. Keeping Ossenfort reflects that I believe he’s made great strides with the roster. BTW Gruden has the talent, but his racist emails make his selection impractical. I do know there are owners who might take that risk. Racism is a deal killer for me.

Now the hard part. So far this season I’ve made 3 major mistakes. Not all of them will be apparent to everyone reading this. It’s mostly not about articles, but it is board related. For years I’ve advised player to know when it’s time. For me that time has come. It’s not that I’ll disappear, but I need to carry a much lower profile. I’ll still toss in comments here and there. It’s time to stop preaching. In the past I’ve backed off only to be drawn back in. This time I think it’s for real. I won’t innumerate the reasons for the errors. Suffice it to say, it’s just time. Thanks for putting up with me to those who’ve agreed with me and those who haven’t. Diversity of opinion is necessary to have a worthwhile board. It’s been a great way to wind down a career. I hope all of you are around long enough to get the team you deserve.

You are and always have been a gem. Love your stuff. And only 3 major mistakes? I've made 4 alone this morning.

 

[az jam]

Harry you are the best, we need your insight on this Board!!!

 

[SoonerLou]

Me and @Stout have the watch. We'll see you in Valhalla.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Even though it’s only been a few weeks, it seems like ages ago I was on this site defending Gannon. Then came the Titans game. In 60 years that may have been the worst performance I’ve seen by an NFL team. The ease with which the Titans took Harrison out of the game convinced me Petzing had to go. Then for the third week in a row Rallis allowed the opposition to steal a game by showing the most passive resistance possible.

You can get one side of the ball wrong and it’s a weakness. Head Coaches typically are experts on only one side of the ball. If you get both sides wrong you have a major judgment issue. Add in taking a player apart on the sidelines instead of in private shows a lacks of leadership sophistication that cannot be accepted from a Head Coach. I’m not at all certain Bidwill has the intestinal fortitude it takes to absorb another hit, but there seems little option to keep a Head Coach if you’re changing both coordinators.

So who comes in. The Cards should have enough strength to be competitive by the defensive side alone. I’d hire Robert Saleh if he’d take the job. He failed to win with the Jets. A team that has been a disaster for awhile. You have to go back 15 years to find consistency in that franchise. Of course in AZ you have to accept an extraordinary history of failure under the same family ownership. Still Saleh is a very aggressive defensive mind and the Cards need that. Saleh mistakenly hired Nathaniel Hackett as the Jets OC to insure signing Aaron Rodgers. Injury led to disaster, but the problem was greater than that. Ossenfort must be certain a truly solid OC selection with QB development history(no, not to help Murray) must be chosen. If Saleh isn’t flexible; look elsewhere. Keeping Ossenfort reflects that I believe he’s made great strides with the roster. BTW Gruden has the talent, but his racist emails make his selection impractical. I do know there are owners who might take that risk. Racism is a deal killer for me.

Now the hard part. So far this season I’ve made 3 major mistakes. Not all of them will be apparent to everyone reading this. It’s mostly not about articles, but it is board related. For years I’ve advised player to know when it’s time. For me that time has come. It’s not that I’ll disappear, but I need to carry a much lower profile. I’ll still toss in comments here and there. It’s time to stop preaching. In the past I’ve backed off only to be drawn back in. This time I think it’s for real. I won’t innumerate the reasons for the errors. Suffice it to say, it’s just time. Thanks for putting up with me to those who’ve agreed with me and those who haven’t. Diversity of opinion is necessary to have a worthwhile board. It’s been a great way to wind down a career. I hope all of you are around long enough to get the team you deserve.

Saleh is who I wanted year’s ago….so do you think bidwill already has his mind made up Gannon is done? Who do you want us to replace Murray with? Gonna miss ya may god bless ya my friend

 

[slanidrac16]

This saddens me Harry. I can’t help but think some of the rudeness and snarky remarks play a role in this.
Personally I don’t care if you’re “ right” or made mistakes. Hell at the end of the season only 1 team got it totally right.
PLEASE PLEASE reconsider your mindset. This is a great hobby and escape from this ugly world we live in now for many of us.
This site will not be the same without your input.

 

[unseenaz]

Nobody on this website worth a damn thinks we’re better off without you Harry. And for those who aren’t worth a damn - not even deserving of the time of day

 

[BritCard]

If Demercardo doesn't Russ Holliday the ball (this is a Chad Powers reference) and DTD doesn't fumble the ball like a bar of soap then we win the game comfortably and nobody says anything about Gannon.

While ridiculous mistakes (I think anyone that drops the ball before the goal line should instantly be hit by lightning) they were player mistakes. Emari's was stupid and out of character and DTD's was just bad luck.

 

[Gandhi]

Harry, I think we both understand that we have certainly not always agreed on things from the other, but I have always appreciated that it have been in a respectful way. In my mind, we have always gone for the ball and not the man. I hope you agree with me, for it has never been my intention to step over that line. To me, it has been constructive to read your analysis’, and it has always made me smarter. Not always because you have convinced me of something, but because it has made me think of different perspectives.

More importantly, I respect you as a person. The most telling example to me came just a little time ago. My wife and I had big issues with immigration service, and that made me say some things on this board that I assume could be considered over the line. I am deeply grateful for the love I got from many on this board, and you were the one putting it into words. I will never forget that.

I appreciate what you have brought to the board, and I hope that you will re-consider your decision.

P.S. The idea of Saleh is very attractive to me.

 

[Stout]

Harry, we will take as much posting as we can get from you. We may not always agree, but I love your insightful opinions and knowledge.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

Harry, I so appreciate your knowledge and love for this long downtrodden organization. I too have suffered long before the organization moved to Arizona. Please know that your amazing insight is so appreciated!! My journey as a Cardinals fan started in 1979 (Ottis Anderson rookie year). I have often wondered why I have held on this long, but like you I just love the Cardinals!! Please keep posting!

 

[some dumb guy]

Harry, don't go out after a 3 stooges loss to the titans. Wait until we beat the colts......of course it may not be THIS week but we'll see 'em again in another 4 years or maybe 8. By then there will be a Why did we get rid of Kyler Murray thread....

Wait for me Harry, I'm going with ya

 

[Diverdan]

If you go, you will be missed.
Always liked your posts, you are level headed and reasonable.

 

[reebokalone2001]

Harry, you are a truly class act. Your insights and analysis are a great asset for the board. Your posts are one of my must read. Joining only a few years, but I learned a ton from you and I sincerely grateful. Following cardinals could really take a toll and I totally feel you. Do what’s best for you, but do continue posting whenever you feel it. Thank you.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

You absolutely don't need to carry a much lower profile. Your analysis is far more valuable to many of us than any of the local mouthpieces or podcasters. You have certainly been one of my favorite voices on the team over the years - stay as long as you can.

I wonder if this Cards team broke him down. I wouldn't blame him one bit if it did...

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’ve always appreciated your insights from your earliest days posting. I may not agree with 100% of your takes (but I could say that about everyone here), but I ALWAYS value your insight and consider your position with a bit more weight than most here.

I sincerely hope you don’t become a stranger. But I can’t begrudge you finding better - more fulfilling - things to do with your time.

 

[vince56]

Side note: as our resident metal guitarist, DiMarzio Titans and Bare Knuckle Aftermaths are some of the best guitar pickups out there. This thread title made me think of them.

 

[Harry]

Christ O Mighty Harry! This team has driven you to this??? Sheez!!! We are truly victims of abuse as Cardinals fans, and this is proof positive that you never know what the losing will do to you. I pray I never get to this point. I hope they give you a reason to come back. We need you man.

Not reducing because of one loss. I’ve seen the playoffs slip through their fingers. I’m just getting old. Not dead yet, though!