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Book and Ayton couldn’t sniff Kobe or Shaq’s jock. At least those two guys were two of the greatest of all time. I get the ego battle there.
Here? Give me a break.
Here? Give me a break.
This x10000Book and Ayton couldn’t sniff Kobe or Shaq’s jock. At least those two guys were two of the greatest of all time. I get the ego battle there.
Here? Give me a break.
Book and Ayton couldn’t sniff Kobe or Shaq’s jock. At least those two guys were two of the greatest of all time. I get the ego battle there.
Here? Give me a break.
I think it was a convenient excuse for the owners on the money part. How your accountants & lawyers didnt tell you by draft night 2020 that the 10th pick would cause you more money problems if you plan to keep your 2018 1st pick ...and then you don't trade the 2020 10th pick starting draft night like you had the chance over the next 2 years when all the teams were constantly asking. If all teams operated like the Suns did for this 2020 10th pick what's the point of even picking.Do people here really believe that not extending Jaden Smith was Sarver's fault/mistake and not a bad evaluation of talent by James Jones/Monty Williams?
Again I don't know the CBA the way I did at one point, so please straighten me out if I misunderstanding something. I don't understand what the advantage is in maxing out DA last summer rather than doing it this summer or matching an offer if they did not want his fifth year on the deal. Supposedly, and I think it's widely excepted, that he and his agent were looking for the full max for all five years. I would almost considerate you're responsible from an ownership standpoint, especially in this case with DA.
For all the issues with Sarver I actually think the not wanting to spend money on the players has been way over blown. That said I would like to move on just to be done with it and maybe we luck out with a multi billionaire owner who spends a lot of money on the team and and in all the right places
Now tell me all the reasons I'm wrong.
Thanks,
Joe
Do we simply dismiss all the times he played for us where he was the worst player on the court? That was his career until a few months after we screwed up and chose to not extend him. He was flat out horrible. Not that he got a lot of opportunity but that wasn't the team's fault.Asking an honest question....How do you explain when "Jalen" Smith played real time on the Suns he produced then went to another team played real time with Indiana and continued to produced...while the vet the Suns got didn't produce at the same rate before the trade & didn't after? Respectfully very interested in your response.
You mean the way the Lakers did with Andrew Bynum?Can you imagine if the Lakers, Warriors, Boston, Bucks, or the Spurs were giving up on a player with Ayton's talent & potential so quickly?
Was this intended as sarcasm?You mean the way the Lakers did with Andrew Bynum?
Asking an honest question....How do you explain when "Jalen" Smith played real time on the Suns he produced then went to another team played resl time with Indiana and continued to produced...while the vet the Suns got didn't produce at the same rate before the trade & didn't after? Respectfully ery interested in your response.Do people here really believe that not extending Jaden Smith was Sarver's fault/mistake and not a bad evaluation of talent by James Jones/Monty Williams?
Again I don't know the CBA the way I did at one point, so please straighten me out if I misunderstanding something. I don't understand what the advantage is in maxing out DA last summer rather than doing it this summer or matching an offer if they did not want his fifth year on the deal. Supposedly, and I think it's widely excepted, that he and his agent were looking for the full max for all five years. I would almost considerate you're responsible from an ownership standpoint, especially in this case with DA.
For all the issues with Sarver I actually think the not wanting to spend money on the players has been way over blown. That said I would like to move on just to be done with it and maybe we luck out with a multi billionaire owner who spends a lot of money on the team and and in all the right places
Now tell me all the reasons I'm wrong.
Thanks,
Joe
Do we simply dismiss all the times he played for us where he was the worst player on the court? That was his career until a few months after we screwed up and chose to not extend him. He was flat out horrible. Not that he got a lot of opportunity but that wasn't the team's fault.
He reportedly didn't work hard enough as a rookie, he got Covid, he got injured, he got an opportunity on a G League team where he was virtually unplayable most nights and then did nothing once we brought him back until we finally played him at center. Blame the coach for never using him at that position before but there were a lot of factors in play that led to us losing him for nothing, not all of those are on the front office.Lies.
So why did he so drastically improve with no playing time and a bad work ethic in such a short amount of time?Do we simply dismiss all the times he played for us where he was the worst player on the court? That was his career until a few months after we screwed up and chose to not extend him. He was flat out horrible. Not that he got a lot of opportunity but that wasn't the team's fault.
He reportedly didn't work hard enough as a rookie, he got Covid, he got injured, he got an opportunity on a G League team where he was virtually unplayable most nights and then did nothing once we brought him back until we finally played him at center. Blame the coach for never using him at that position before but there were a lot of factors in play that led to us losing him for nothing, not all of those are on the front office.
Asking an honest question....How do you explain when "Jalen" Smith played real time on the Suns he produced then went to another team played resl time with Indiana and continued to produced...while the vet the Suns got didn't produce at the same rate before the trade & didn't after? Respectfully ery interested in your response.
So why did he so drastically improve with no playing time and a bad work ethic in such a short amount of time?
I think Lavine is one of the most overrated players in the league. Extremely selfish on offense, a defensive doormat, injury prone. I think Booker would hate playing with him.
I think it's a little extreme to say "bad work ethic", let's just say it was less than ideal. We didn't hear much about it, just a comment from DA when talking about Jalen's improvement. He said something like "he didn't realize how hard he needed to work at this level".Asking an honest question....How do you explain when "Jalen" Smith played real time on the Suns he produced then went to another team played resl time with Indiana and continued to produced...while the vet the Suns got didn't produce at the same rate before the trade & didn't after? Respectfully ery interested in your response.
So why did he so drastically improve with no playing time and a bad work ethic in such a short amount of time?
No, it wasn't.It’s just taking up for the organization.
Do we simply dismiss all the times he played for us where he was the worst player on the court? That was his career until a few months after we screwed up and chose to not extend him. He was flat out horrible. Not that he got a lot of opportunity but that wasn't the team's fault.
He reportedly didn't work hard enough as a rookie, he got Covid, he got injured, he got an opportunity on a G League team where he was virtually unplayable most nights and then did nothing once we brought him back until we finally played him at center. Blame the coach for never using him at that position before but there were a lot of factors in play that led to us losing him for nothing, not all of those are on the front office.
That's all a part of the process. No team or nobody has won all their battles. As no team has won 82 games out of the 82 games. Some teams have come close however. The cream raises to the top. We battle through adversity to gain favor. The point is some raise to the top and some struggle mighty. Suns are struggling now. You can't win them all but you got to battle nonetheless.You mean the way the Lakers did with Andrew Bynum?
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The source is a friend of Ayton’s tattoo artist, so take it with a grain of salt.
And they didn’t even really give up on him then, they used him as the centerpiece to land Dwight Howard who was still All-NBA at the time.Was this intended as sarcasm?
Bynum was with the Lakers for 8 years and they didn't give up on him until he missed a full season with a knee injury. And even with DA's warts he's been a much better player than Bynum ever was.
Considering how ridiculously off-base Ayton’s talk is about his own game, I think anything said by Ayton about anyone else’s game doesn’t mean jack squat.DA, of all people, words being used to describe another's players (who best performed in DA's position) effort & desire is very interesting.
Yet there's video from another coach who used to be in the Suns program explaining Smith with ethic, improvement behind the scenes and explaining why the Suns took him 10th.
I think DA comments were taken out of context and really don't matter when publicly trumped by head coaches & CP3 himself.
But none if what's being said explained Smith's drastic improvement in such a short time with no playing time the year & half prior abd having a questionable work ethic.
If anything the Suns should trust whatever process they have going on behind the scenes for Smith because all the did was pay $8mil to prepare him for another team because he's ready now.
I just hope it's not a Kobe & Shaq sequel. And I'm not putting Ayton & Booker in Kobe & Shaq's talent level.It could be pure BS but it would at least explain why we were planning on making such a dumb basketball move.
I wouldn't mind it being a Kobe & Shaq sequel if it lasted 8 years like their relationship did and if it produced 3 straight championships. Not that I see that happening here.I just hope it's not a Kobe & Shaq sequel. And I'm not putting Ayton & Booker in Kobe & Shaq's talent level.
Booker & Ayton although not in the same skill set as Kobe & Shaq might regret later that they didn't make it work as Kobe & Shaq did years later.No they weren't and it's been clear that Booker has been hard on him at times. But Shaq and Kobe clashed pretty regularly for several years before their break up, all we can do is hope they can patch it up for a few more years.
Maybe the fire finally got lit with Stix. Motivation & desire as maybe he figured it out as he was watching a very good team(Suns) at least for the regular season with the best seats in the house.Asking an honest question....How do you explain when "Jalen" Smith played real time on the Suns he produced then went to another team played resl time with Indiana and continued to produced...while the vet the Suns got didn't produce at the same rate before the trade & didn't after? Respectfully ery interested in your response.
So why did he so drastically improve with no playing time and a bad work ethic in such a short amount of time?
It's as good a possibility as any IMO.Maybe the fire finally got lit with Stix. Motivation & desire as maybe he figured it out as he was watching a very good team(Suns) at least for the regular season with the best seats in the house.