The Ayton Plan

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I seriously doubt Ayton would risk playing for the qualifying offer of $16 million and become a free agent.

Most likely if he wants out he will accept a sign-and-trade after the season or the Suns decide to trade him this season but it's hard to bring a comparable player back on his current salary.

I can’t believe we’re having this conversation. This sucks. If he doesn’t take the one year, he can and probably will threaten to play for the one year, forcing a deal, one that gets us pennies on the dollar.
 

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I can’t believe we’re having this conversation. This sucks. If he doesn’t take the one year, he can and probably will threaten to play for the one year, forcing a deal, one that gets us pennies on the dollar.

Ayton will likely play this season for the Suns and he can get a substantial contract next season whether he stays with Suns or accepts an offer sheet from another team.
 

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Ayton will likely play this season for the Suns and he can get a substantial contract next season whether he stays with Suns or accepts an offer sheet from another team.

Uh... yeah. None of that is in debate.
 

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Uh... yeah. None of that is in debate.

I don't think Ayton will try to become an unrestricted free agent. It's too risky. Also the Suns should get significant assets in return in a sign-and-trade.

Really I think this is more about the Suns saying they are not confident he is a max player.
 

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I don't think Ayton will try to become an unrestricted free agent. It's too risky. Also the Suns should get significant assets in return in a sign-and-trade.

Really I think this is more about the Suns saying they are not confident he is a max player.

This is about the Sarver not having the money to pay him. Sarver’s main source of income is the Phoenix Suns. Saying he’s going to go into the luxury tax and pay guys is one thing but doing it is another.

When he made that statement earlier in the year there were several posters here who said talk is cheap and he’s going to have to show us

And yet here we are. How anyone thinks this is good or even acceptable is beyond me.
 

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No deal on Ayton. Talks have ended.

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What a horrible look for this franchise. After all the team has done to try and turn around their reputation. This sounds like Sarver to a "T" interfering once again. We are never going to find out the details of what got left on the table likely. However, you know it was non-guaranteed heavy. Usually if they had been able to meet in the middle talks would still be happening. This tells me the team was paying hardball.

Don't be shocked if Ayton walks after his contract. We have seen high profile players do this more and more over the years in the NBA. There will be a ton of teams lining up to sign him. My guess is that Ayton won't care either if there is a few million left on the table either.

No picks. No G-League. If Ayton walks? Booker likely will follow without a young core around him or another superstar at Paul's level. Paul will be done. Ayton will walk. No picks to reload. He has no reason to stay.

I still have some hope this gets taken care of if Ayton plays well. If not? Remember this day. In a few years we are going to say this was the start of the unravel and our return to bottom dwelling.
 
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So Robert Sarver wants to really hated again by the valley. :rolleyes:
 

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What a horrible look for this franchise. After all the team has done to try and turn around their reputation. This sounds like Sarver to a "T" interfering once again. We are never going to find out the details of what got left on the table likely. However, you know it was non-guaranteed heavy. Usually if they had been able to meet in the middle talks would still be happening. This tells me the team was paying hardball.

Don't be shocked if Ayton walks after his contract. We have seen high profile players do this more and more over the years in the NBA. There will be a ton of teams lining up to sign him. My guess is that Ayton won't care either if there is a few million left on the table either.

Only getting into the facts and not the feelings part because I wanted the Suns to extend Ayton too.

For Ayton to walk as an unrestricted free agent he would have to play for the Suns two seasons if he wants to get paid.
 

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Only getting into the facts and not the feelings part because I wanted the Suns to extend Ayton.

For Ayton to walk as an unrestricted free agent he would have to play for the Suns two seasons if he wants to get paid.

Say he goes out and plays great. If a team comes along and offered his the max with all the extras couldn’t he take it? The suns could offer him an extra year right?

If I’m Ayton I ain’t coming back here and I tell my agent to make it clear
 

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Only getting into the facts and not the feelings part because I wanted the Suns to extend Ayton too.

For Ayton to walk as an unrestricted free agent he would have to play for the Suns two seasons if he wants to get paid.
When I say "walk" it's a metaphor. There are all kinds of ways for him to get out of here. Especially, if he goes public about not wanting to return. No feelings about it. It's a fact and we have seen in multiple times.
 
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