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There is just an "it" factor about him. He has the confidence that Booker and Amare had when coming into the league. But there is a level of humility and leadership as well. You can see it in the way that older teammates talk about him.

The kid has a swagger and drive that is top notch. He was accepted into the fold in OKC as the missing piece as well. Until Wemby exploded at the end of his rookie year, Chet outplayed him as far as being a consistent presence. For whatever reason he isn't nearly as hyped as Wemby despite being similarly impactful and helping his team further.
 

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And his body will mature.

There is just an "it" factor about him. He has the confidence that Booker and Amare had when coming into the league. But there is a level of humility and leadership as well. You can see it in the way that older teammates talk about him.

We’re still talking about Chet, right? You think Chet has Booker/Amare level confidence they did when hit the floor? I think he can be a much better player but I don’t see those attitude comps at all.

I was going to say the same, we are talking about Holmgren?

That frame is the frame.

I would like to see him be more consistent, he goes missing every now and then.
 

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I heard Lukas lost weight. Think it's someone else, but I hope it's him

Yeah, I don't think it's Luka. I've read he is in great shape.

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Cole Anthony will sign with Bucks after clearing waivers.

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@Hoop Head

As previously discussed, IMO, the Suns need to be more proactive with this stuff like other NBA teams.

Cam Spencer is to sign a four-year, $10.5 million contract.

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As previously discussed, IMO, the Suns need to be more proactive with this stuff like other NBA teams.

Cam Spencer is to sign a four-year, $10.5 million contract.

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If Brea contributes once the season starts, I'd be fine with that. We're in the driver seat right now. Upside to a Two-Way is he can't be a trade throw in, which isn't as much of a concern now that JJ is gone.

Every dollar counts to a team trying to get under the aprons as well and the difference between a Two-Way and a guaranteed deal is more we need to account for when trying to wiggle under the apron. We'll have max stretched money as well so there's no easy way to compensate for a bad deal.
 

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We’re still talking about Chet, right? You think Chet has Booker/Amare level confidence they did when hit the floor? I think he can be a much better player but I don’t see those attitude comps at all.
Um. Yeah, sure. We are still talking about Chet, not Khaman.
 

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If Brea contributes once the season starts, I'd be fine with that. We're in the driver seat right now. Upside to a Two-Way is he can't be a trade throw in, which isn't as much of a concern now that JJ is gone.

Every dollar counts to a team trying to get under the aprons as well and the difference between a Two-Way and a guaranteed deal is more we need to account for when trying to wiggle under the apron. We'll have max stretched money as well so there's no easy way to compensate for a bad deal.
I think a two-way is perfectly appropriate. He was drafted in the 40's and he has played two summer league games. He will have a chance to prove himself.
 

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If Brea contributes once the season starts, I'd be fine with that. We're in the driver seat right now. Upside to a Two-Way is he can't be a trade throw in, which isn't as much of a concern now that JJ is gone.

Every dollar counts to a team trying to get under the aprons as well and the difference between a Two-Way and a guaranteed deal is more we need to account for when trying to wiggle under the apron. We'll have max stretched money as well so there's no easy way to compensate for a bad deal.

I'm hoping that is the primary reason why Brea is on a two-way contract.

The Suns still need to take care of business, i.e., the need for another point/combo guard and the contracts of Beal, Allen and O'Neale.

I'd be ecstatic if the Suns found a way to sign Precious Achiuwa assuming he is still available.
 

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Richaun Holmes is waived by the Wizards. I still have good memories when he played for the Suns.

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I actually wouldn't mind bringing him back
 

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he's played 2 games against the same team so pretty early but some first reactions to Cooper Flagg.

For 18 he's remarkable, he belongs. He had an absolutely horrible shooting first game and didn't hang his head, played defense, rebounded, impressive at his age. yes he's playing against guys who in many cases won't ever make an NBA roster but he belonged right away.

The other stuff, he's clearly not a good NBA 3 point shooter yet, but he wasn't right away at Duke and got better, as the scouts say his shot is not broken, just needs more reps, also seems like he's working on shooting the ball on the way up or without really jumping which he didn't do in college or HS and that's going to take time.

He can't get by any decent defender off the bounce without a full head of steam, he dribbles too high and he's just not very laterally maneuverable so he needs that full run to just get his shoulder by, once he gets his shoulder past you it's usually over. I still think they're wrong to play him on the ball until Kyrie comes back but if they do, that will be his issue especially going left he just can't go by NBA defenders in the halfcourt. Which is why he settles for the fallback so much which worked in HS and college because most players couldn't get to his release and play him to drive, but NBA players are longer and more athletic and even in SL we saw several times guys bothered that shot.

Better passer than I thought he'd be right away. He's going to be an elite defender, not right away but he'll be good right away. again the best thing about him is he just belongs, he's going to have times where he just can't make a shot and if he's playing on the ball he'll struggle at times there but he won't let that stop him.
 

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he's played 2 games against the same team so pretty early but some first reactions to Cooper Flagg.

For 18 he's remarkable, he belongs. He had an absolutely horrible shooting first game and didn't hang his head, played defense, rebounded, impressive at his age. yes he's playing against guys who in many cases won't ever make an NBA roster but he belonged right away.

The other stuff, he's clearly not a good NBA 3 point shooter yet, but he wasn't right away at Duke and got better, as the scouts say his shot is not broken, just needs more reps, also seems like he's working on shooting the ball on the way up or without really jumping which he didn't do in college or HS and that's going to take time.

He can't get by any decent defender off the bounce without a full head of steam, he dribbles too high and he's just not very laterally maneuverable so he needs that full run to just get his shoulder by, once he gets his shoulder past you it's usually over. I still think they're wrong to play him on the ball until Kyrie comes back but if they do, that will be his issue especially going left he just can't go by NBA defenders in the halfcourt. Which is why he settles for the fallback so much which worked in HS and college because most players couldn't get to his release and play him to drive, but NBA players are longer and more athletic and even in SL we saw several times guys bothered that shot.

Better passer than I thought he'd be right away. He's going to be an elite defender, not right away but he'll be good right away. again the best thing about him is he just belongs, he's going to have times where he just can't make a shot and if he's playing on the ball he'll struggle at times there but he won't let that stop him.
I still think he's a high floor/middling ceiling kind of player. But he does seem to also be a team-first guy, as well, which is increasingly rare and valuable among better quality players in the league. So it's not hard to imagine him having a successful NBA career overall.
 

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I still think he's a high floor/middling ceiling kind of player. But he does seem to also be a team-first guy, as well, which is increasingly rare and valuable among better quality players in the league. So it's not hard to imagine him having a successful NBA career overall.

Although he can force it sometimes, he plays within himself and lets the game come to him. He doesn't seem like the typical #1 pick out there to prove himself right away.
 

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I still think he's a high floor/middling ceiling kind of player. But he does seem to also be a team-first guy, as well, which is increasingly rare and valuable among better quality players in the league. So it's not hard to imagine him having a successful NBA career overall.

I think the limit on his offense is shooting and handles. But when you consider how young he is and how much he's improved already it's not hard to see him becoming a consistent 3 point shooter and improving his handle. I think the handle is a big deal I remember Harrison Barnes early in his career college and pro, the knock everyone had on him is he can't put the ball on the floor and go by you so people were running him off the 3. He got markedly better at that with the Warriors, not great maybe not even good, but good enough that teams couldn't just ignore him driving.


Flagg isn't nearly as good a shooter as Barnes was but he's a much more explosive finisher so if he just improves enough to get by people in the halfcourt it will be huge for his game. As of course will be improving his shooting so defenders have to honor it.

The best prospect since LeBron stuff I've never really bought into.

A big part of the hype on him of course is all the reports on how well he played against NBA pros when he was 17 and on the team practicing against the US national team. You heard it over and over he wasn't overwhelmed, at all.
 

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Looks like no Chris Paul for the Suns per Gambo.

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Since all agree that Khaman Maluach does not yet belong on an NBA court, which Suns center should start--Richards or Williams?

I wanted to say Richards because he has experience playing with the remaining 2024-25 Suns, but it's a better idea if he and WIlliams compete for the spot in preseason.

Williams on all metrics is better than Richards. They were both on the same team last year and Williams was the starter and Richards the backup.
 
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