Suns updates and discussion for the 2019-20 season

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  1. cheesebeef

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    Ayton turned 21 six months ago. KAT and Shaq were both 21 in their second seasons as well, with Kat actually three months younger than Ayton in his second year when he made the huge jump and Shaq was a couple months older during his second year.

    if he averages 20/12 by season's end and keeps playing good D, that'll be solid improvement.
     
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    With KAT, it has to be noted that he is absolute garbage on defense and, by many accounts, doesn't seem to give a crap.

    I saw the other night that the Wolves have lost their last 14 games that KAT has played in.

    I don't care how many points KAT is putting up so far this year, the Ayton we've seen so far this season is a more impactful player by a decent margin.
     
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  4. Mainstreet

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    Ayton is 21 and turns 22 in July. I too think he will be a double digit scorer and rebounder as he matures.
     
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    I think it's hard to project Ayton's stats long term. He started basketball late and he is still learning the game.
     
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    In the last five or six games he played extremely well and was very aggressive in three of them. If he can play like that more consistently, his stats are going to be insane. When he is aggressive, when he goes after the offensive boards, when he rolls to the rim, when he takes the ball to the hoop, he is unstoppable.
     
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    Ayton can still be that dream center everyone wants and offensively maybe even better.
     
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    Oh absolutely. He is unstoppable on offense when he is aggressive. On top of that, his defense has been pretty damn good too. I am super excited about Ayton.
     
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    Pretty much this...

    Ayton is still a work in progress. There are no guarantees, of course, but his game is still showing potential of going up another level.

    KAT on the other hand, is pretty much now what he is ever going to be. He's a nice player... with a lot of flaws that will probably always limit his overall impact. I don't think there is any chance for another dimension to his competitiveness or production, whereas with Ayton we just don't know yet.
     
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    I think we are understating Ayton a little bit here. If his last 10 games are characteristic of his entire career, offense and defense—he is an all-star at least and would be all-nba at some point depending on team success.

    the question is whether he can keep it up and develop a bit more consistency.
     
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    i don’t really even think that is a question.

    the last game was virtually the first time he has shown any aggression.

    logic would dictate we are going to see more of that, because that is natural in the development of big men.

    lf he never develops his game an iota beyond what it is now he is still an all star if he puts out the effort.
     
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    I think we have been seeing aggression since the Knicks game.
     
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    You and I must have different views on aggression.

    I want him to actively go to the basket when he has an open shot - Bang into people.

    Last game is the only game I have seen him do that multiple times.
     
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    Monty says he is seeing an edge from Ty Jerome.


    Kellan Olson‏Verified account @KellanOlson

    Monty said he’s seeing the edge now from Ty Jerome that wasn’t there when he was struggling. Said it was something they talked about a lot.

    4:21 PM - 31 Jan 2020
     
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    This remark is not overly encouraging regarding Cam, Baynes and Kaminsky.


    Kellan Olson‏Verified account @KellanOlson


    Monty was asked if there’s a light at the end of the tunnel with Cam/Baynes/Kaminsky and he said he hopes so and hopes it’s not a train.

    4:26 PM - 31 Jan 2020
     
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