Suns updates and discussion for the 2019-20 season

[Mainstreet]

Devin Booker makes first team All-Bubble team for seeding games.

It looks like they didn't pay a lot of attention to position on first team.

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[Mainstreet]

Too bad the Suns did not have anyone on the second All Bubble team.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Too bad the Suns did not have anyone on the second All Bubble team.

Really balanced effort.

 

[Mainstreet]

Monty Williams selected as coach.

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[Mainstreet]

Here is some information on the voting for the All-Bubble team for seeding games.

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[Mainstreet]

The gorilla must’ve been dying

Need air conditioning for the Gorilla suit.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Lillard was the rightful mvp
Booker played like a superstar
Lillard played like a super-human

 

[Chaplin]

Here is some information on the voting for the All-Bubble team for seeding games.

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So it looks like there were 22 total votes counted per award (based on the All-Bubble awards). If that is the case, there were 2 of the 22 "media panel" that didn't vote for Booker at all in the MVP race. He got 19 2nd place votes and 1 3rd place vote (Dame got 22 1st place votes), so that means 2 votes didn't go to Booker at all in that top 3 for MVP. That's mind-boggling to me.

 

[Mainstreet]

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[Chaplin]

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What is their criteria for an MVP award? How are Doncic and Harden more deserving of it? Their teams were average at best. It's arguable that the Rockets were even worse.

Looks like it's not an "MVP" award to people and more of a "best player of the bubble" award. That explains why TJ Warren is on these ballots. Doesn't seem fair to me. But it's like that with the regular MVP often too.

 

[GatorAZ]

What is their criteria for an MVP award? How are Doncic and Harden more deserving of it? Their teams were average at best. It's arguable that the Rockets were even worse.

Looks like it's not an "MVP" award to people and more of a "best player of the bubble" award. That explains why TJ Warren is on these ballots. Doesn't seem fair to me. But it's like that with the regular MVP often too.

Two people voted for TJ over Booker and Book got 18/20 second place votes. Seems like they got it right.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

TJ only played in 6 games. Seems bizarre he got the nod over Book when their numbers and clutchness were both basically equal.

 

[Chaplin]

Two people voted for TJ over Booker and Book got 18/20 second place votes. Seems like they got it right.

Got what right? How does this excuse fit with a “Most VALUABLE Player” Award?

 

[GatorAZ]

Got what right? How does this excuse fit with a “Most VALUABLE Player” Award?

20/20 votes had Booker on the first team and 18/20 had Booker in the top-2. That’s pretty good.

Idk what you mean by “fit”...

 

[Chaplin]

20/20 votes had Booker on the first team and 18/20 had Booker in the top-2. That’s pretty good.

Idk what you mean by “fit”...

I merely pointed out that 2 voters didn't have Booker voted at all. And who they voted ahead of him does not fit the "Most Valuable Player" designation. Do you disagree? Do you really think TJ Warren was more valuable in the bubble than Devin Booker?

 

[Carolinacacti]

Other than the Warriors there are a lot bad teams who didn't take part in the first bubble.

I think the Hawks and Hornets make the playoffs next year. Warriors I doubt it.

 

[Carolinacacti]

I think the Hawks and Hornets make the playoffs next year. Warriors I doubt it.

Boy dose a 8 game win streak make me talk smack.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Here is some information on the voting for the All-Bubble team for seeding games.

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2 people didn’t even vote Book 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Cmon.

 

[GatorAZ]

2 people didn’t even vote Book 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Cmon.

They were Doris Burke and Jeff Van Gundy... 18/20 had Book 2nd behind Lillard.

 

[Hoop Head]

Lillard playing out of his mind towards the end is what got him past Booker. I still think he should have been penalized for missing 2 game winning free throws against the Clippers. Booker deserved no less than 2nd though so I'm fine with it.

I was a little surprised by how some people here tried to discount his chances when I mentioned him as an MVP favorite. I think us Suns fans have been beat up so much that the idea we'd produce an MVP was difficult to grasp for some.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lillard playing out of his mind towards the end is what got him past Booker. I still think he should have been penalized for missing 2 game winning free throws against the Clippers. Booker deserved no less than 2nd though so I'm fine with it.

I was a little surprised by how some people here tried to discount his chances when I mentioned him as an MVP favorite. I think us Suns fans have been beat up so much that the idea we'd produce an MVP was difficult to grasp for some.

were there a lot of people here discounting Book’s chances? Thought it was pretty much universal here that people believed Book was right there with Dame. Both of them were flat out redonkulous.

 

[Hoop Head]

were there a lot of people here discounting Book’s chances? Thought it was pretty much universal here that people believed Book was right there with Dame. Both of them were flat out redonkulous.

I never said it was a lot of people but there were definitely some who seemed to think he wouldn't receive any top honors, MVP or 1st Team. I can't remember where but the case was being made on stats that Booker was the 4th best guard behind Dame, Harden, and Luka. That was used to say he wasn't a lock for 1st team honors. Also whenever I mentioned him as a front runner for MVP it seemed someone would try to dispel that notion also. He may not have been THE favorite but he was definitely A favorite and would have taken it if it weren't for a historic run by Lillard.

 

[Chaplin]

I never said it was a lot of people but there were definitely some who seemed to think he wouldn't receive any top honors, MVP or 1st Team. I can't remember where but the case was being made on stats that Booker was the 4th best guard behind Dame, Harden, and Luka. That was used to say he wasn't a lock for 1st team honors. Also whenever I mentioned him as a front runner for MVP it seemed someone would try to dispel that notion also. He may not have been THE favorite but he was definitely A favorite and would have taken it if it weren't for a historic run by Lillard.

Who? We've been on this board non-stop for 2 weeks, and I don't remember a single person saying Booker didn't deserve 1st team over Harden and Luka.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Who? We've been on this board non-stop for 2 weeks, and I don't remember a single person saying Booker didn't deserve 1st team over Harden and Luka.

right? Feels like the overwhelming majority of us were all aboard the Booker train, just marveling at how EASY he was making domination look.

I can never remember Book just being able to get his shot anywhere he wanted, any time he wanted, getting to the hole and even dunking more than he ever has.

dude was straight FIRE for eight games.

 

[Hoop Head]

Who? We've been on this board non-stop for 2 weeks, and I don't remember a single person saying Booker didn't deserve 1st team over Harden and Luka.

Appears to have started here, https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/posts/4256535/
with WhyAlwaysMe, GatorAZ, and BC all chiming in there. I knew that would be easy to find since I remember replying to the stats that were posted. That's not the only spot I saw it but at least gives you a place to start looking. I'm not going to dig for more right now because there's been a ton of activity in the last few days.