Suns draft Khaman Maluach with the 10th pick

[Proximo]

The anti-Ayton.

Yes, he does seem to have the right attitude. That's the bet with him, that his work ethic and pride will make him a star that his frame makes posible.

I was worried at the beginning of last year, but the progress he made was huge. I think he got 100% better from the start to the end of the season. That really gives me hope.

 

[Mainstreet]

Hopefully the Suns see Maluach make progress this season. If not, there will be doubts about the #10 pick.

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[MigratingOsprey]

Define progress?

It's easy to speak in meaningless platitudes

We also went through the whole "lottery pick" thing - this is the NBA draft - the Suns were lucky a prospect with something unique was available for them and you can't put on a player the organizational incompetence of testing away all their other lotto tickets

 

[taz02]

The anti-Ayton.

I hope so...If I have to watch another season with San Antonio dominating with their third superstar big while we flounder with another 7ft stiff I'm going to vomit.

 

[Yuma]

Suns have always been cursed with Centers. No, Amar'e wasn't a center. Amar'e was really our PF the Suns played at Center. True Center talent has always alluded the Suns ever since we lost that coin flip for Kareem. As much as we hated Ayton, he was the best center the Suns had. That tells you how cursed we are at Center. Guys like Alvin Adams and Mark West are lauded in our history. Nice guys, but not the greatest centers. Adams eventually wore down. West could rebound and defend. I have had my whole life waiting for a great Suns center. Patience is a bastard!

 

[JCSunsfan]

I hope so...If I have to watch another season with San Antonio dominating with their third superstar big while we flounder with another 7ft stiff I'm going to vomit.

San Antonio got every one of those with the overall #1 pick in a draft where there was no doubt about who was the best player in the draft. Khaman was the 10th pick. It’s a huge difference. Miles. The 10th pick is a success if he ends up being a quality starter.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Suns have always been cursed with Centers. No, Amar'e wasn't a center. Amar'e was really our PF the Suns played at Center. True Center talent has always alluded the Suns ever since we lost that coin flip for Kareem. As much as we hated Ayton, he was the best center the Suns had. That tells you how cursed we are at Center. Guys like Alvin Adams and Mark West are lauded in our history. Nice guys, but not the greatest centers. Adams eventually wore down. West could rebound and defend. I have had my whole life waiting for a great Suns center. Patience is a bastard!

Alvan Adams was a great center in his day. He was rookie of the year and led the team for years. He would not have played center by today’s standards, but in those days the Celtics won championships with a 6-7 center.

 

[95pro]

Suns have always been cursed with Centers. No, Amar'e wasn't a center. Amar'e was really our PF the Suns played at Center. True Center talent has always alluded the Suns ever since we lost that coin flip for Kareem. As much as we hated Ayton, he was the best center the Suns had. That tells you how cursed we are at Center. Guys like Alvin Adams and Mark West are lauded in our history. Nice guys, but not the greatest centers. Adams eventually wore down. West could rebound and defend. I have had my whole life waiting for a great Suns center. Patience is a bastard!

Gortat, i'm going to say it, was our best center.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns have always been cursed with Centers. No, Amar'e wasn't a center. Amar'e was really our PF the Suns played at Center. True Center talent has always alluded the Suns ever since we lost that coin flip for Kareem. As much as we hated Ayton, he was the best center the Suns had. That tells you how cursed we are at Center. Guys like Alvin Adams and Mark West are lauded in our history. Nice guys, but not the greatest centers. Adams eventually wore down. West could rebound and defend. I have had my whole life waiting for a great Suns center. Patience is a bastard!

Well, if we want to debate (using a stereotype center as a guideline and we eliminate Shaq, one season), it could be argued DeAndre Ayton was the Suns best center.

 

[Superbone]

According to AI, it was either Alvan Adams or Amare. Plus, many are forgetting about our first ever center, Neal Walk. I don't remember him well either although I was alive (I was 6 in 1969). He is the only Suns center to average over 20 points and 12 rebounds in a single season.

 

[Mainstreet]

According to AI, it was either Alvan Adams or Amare. Plus, many are forgetting about our first ever center, Neal Walk. I don't remember him well either although I was alive (I was 6 in 1969). He is the only Suns center to average over 20 points and 12 rebounds in a single season.

Nick Vanos was on the rise until his tragic death.

 

[AzStevenCal]

According to AI, it was either Alvan Adams or Amare. Plus, many are forgetting about our first ever center, Neal Walk. I don't remember him well either although I was alive (I was 6 in 1969). He is the only Suns center to average over 20 points and 12 rebounds in a single season.

He was really in a horrible position, we all wanted Kareem and he was never going to measure up to that. But yeah, he had one very good year and a couple other decent seasons before we traded him. I'd still say Alvan was our best center but if Walk had played several years like he did in 72/73 he'd have been our best center.

 

[Yuma]

Well, if we want to debate (using a stereotype center as a guideline and we eliminate Shaq, one season), it could be argued DeAndre Ayton was the Suns best center.

I said that.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

our worst draft selection ever was not our best center

 

[Mainstreet]

I said that.

our worst draft selection ever was not our best center

So when it hits the pan. LOL

 

[Superbone]

our worst draft selection ever was not our best center

William Bedford?

 

[AzStevenCal]

William Bedford?

Wasting a number one pick hurts but Ayton wasn't as big a waste as MANY of our other high picks (Bender, Josh Jackson, Alex Len, Chriss and Bedford come to mind).

 

[GatorAZ]

Wasting a number one pick hurts but Ayton wasn't as big a waste as MANY of our other high picks (Bender, Josh Jackson, Alex Len, Chriss and Bedford come to mind).

With the exception of Nance, Hornacek and Majerle the Suns had some horrendous drafts in the 80’s.

 

[AzStevenCal]

With the exception of Nance, Hornacek and Majerle the Suns had some horrendous drafts in the 80’s.

I didn't really have a problem with our drafting back then. Firstly, far less was known about these players. Secondly, we were, until the last few years with Sarver, one of the winningest franchises of all time. So obviously, we drafted low, especially throughout the 80's.

 

[Mainstreet]

William Bedford?

Wasting a number one pick hurts but Ayton wasn't as big a waste as MANY of our other high picks (Bender, Josh Jackson, Alex Len, Chriss and Bedford come to mind).

Getting grounded in reality stings. Drafting Ayton looks good in comparison.

 

[Carolinacacti]

He was really in a horrible position, we all wanted Kareem and he was never going to measure up to that. But yeah, he had one very good year and a couple other decent seasons before we traded him. I'd still say Alvan was our best center but if Walk had played several years like he did in 72/73 he'd have been our best center.

James Edwards could hit that hook like Kareem. Suns had no bench back then

 

[JCSunsfan]

James Edwards could hit that hook like Kareem. Suns had no bench back then

James Edwards was a good center.

And to your comment about the bench, Dennis Awtry was Alvan’s backup. That guy would not make a college team today.

 

[CardNots]

Personally I was a Mark West fan.

Only NBA center to get two fouls before stepping up for the tip ball or it seemed as though…

 

[JRakes]

if man man averages 18-20 mins per game, he needs to get 8,8 & 2 blk

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

is 3 3s in a quarter good?

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the summer league is madness with unbridled selfishness being on full display - the g-league games are much more organized as far as spacing and tempo goes

in the selfish league you're just hoping to see flashes - if you're lucky you see a light show - if you're super lucky you saw what we saw last night

aside from offensive rebounds maluach can't feed maluach - he is dependent on other's sharing the ball - particularly a pg but g-league is too fast and sloppy for set plays - hell - it's too fast and sloppy for open 3s

i am so not worried about manman but williams and oso better be - that kid yang(?) got his but manman didn't pick up a bunch of fouls because of it - he didn't get frustrated watching yang score - didn't start demanding the ball more

manman stayed in his lane and did maluach things - three 3s in a quarter - in that chaotic ass game

im not worried about fleming either - last year he was one of the guys running around trying to do too much - now he's much more poised - and poised isn't exactly impressive in the selfish league

khaman maluach also came in with the guns - i was hearing fleming got buff - he didn't appear bigger at all meanwhile maluach came out looking more like a 19 year old shaq - zero percent hyperbole

if manman's body fills out like that the spurs can take their lil 200 pound wemby and shove him where the sun don't shine - cuz he won't shine against the suns - if royce oneale can body wemby i can't wait to see what grown ass manman is gonna do

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the 3s - the free throws - the rebounds - the lobs - the rim protection - the speed - the vocal presence - work ethic - chip on the shoulder - and now he's getting thicker

is 3 3s in a quarter good?