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Suns 2025-2026 Season Discussion
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Bou-YAY!
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i might be off on this but i think huntley will be super nervous - he's all motor from what ive seen - aggressive - huntley is energy - we have to imagine he'll be seeing playing time question is how much - not good for livers
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Link to the full article https://www.nba.com/news/the-athlet...riendship-a-bond-powering-the-surprising-suns
awesome read
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I just want to say for everyone on here that told me they don't want Kuminga at really any price - um I think I was right and you were wrong.
This is exactly what I was expecting when he got to a new team. I guess the question is how long does it last.
At least we have Rasheer who could become just as good in time.
This is exactly what I was expecting when he got to a new team. I guess the question is how long does it last.
At least we have Rasheer who could become just as good in time.
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Jamaree Bouyea on being promoted to a standard NBA contract.
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Those wasted 3 years with Durant really chap my hide when I read this stuff.
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For those wanting to see the Suns updated roster.
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Yuma
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On paper, you take a HOF prolific scorer and pair him with Devin Booker? what could go wrong? LOL!
It's not KD alone, but the deals and ensuing roster constructions. The idea of big-3, particularly with Beal as part of it, was the main culprit that never had a chance to succeed given the new salary framework.
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I agree. People consistently point to the KD trade though. It was really the Beal trade. The big three worked in Miami because one of them was a good center that could score. We got Beal, who was small, hurt, and wasn't anywhere near a good defender. The salary for Beal was the real killer. We couldn't build around that third high salary. If we would have stuck with a big two, and built around that, it might have had a chance to succeed. Of course it comes back to Ayton, too. If he had been producing like a true first pick in the draft, we would have never made the Beal trade. Heck, possibly not even the KD trade.
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I am feeling a lot better about the next 2 or 3 years for the suns.
Oso has made great strides,
Rasheer has huge potential - he is already at a Jaden McDaniels type level. If he can learn to ISO he can become an all star.
Goodwin if we can resign him, which I think we can is an outstanding perimeter defender and all around great bench guy. Highsmith is a great minimum signing who gives us really solid defensive minutes.
Gillespie again if we can resign him is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, and is becoming a better passer.
Jalen Green has great potential - but he has to get better in his decision making.
Khaman - I still don't feel that good about, but at least he looks like he might be an OK backup.
We need to trade Grayson and Royce this offseason, and if we can get Goodwin and Gillespie resigned I think we can easily survive losing them and still have a deep team.
At this point we have more than enough role players, we need to have a couple guys turn into stars. I think Rasheer and Jalen both have that potential, and Dillon is sometimes at that level as well.
Oso has made great strides,
Rasheer has huge potential - he is already at a Jaden McDaniels type level. If he can learn to ISO he can become an all star.
Goodwin if we can resign him, which I think we can is an outstanding perimeter defender and all around great bench guy. Highsmith is a great minimum signing who gives us really solid defensive minutes.
Gillespie again if we can resign him is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league, and is becoming a better passer.
Jalen Green has great potential - but he has to get better in his decision making.
Khaman - I still don't feel that good about, but at least he looks like he might be an OK backup.
We need to trade Grayson and Royce this offseason, and if we can get Goodwin and Gillespie resigned I think we can easily survive losing them and still have a deep team.
At this point we have more than enough role players, we need to have a couple guys turn into stars. I think Rasheer and Jalen both have that potential, and Dillon is sometimes at that level as well.
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What doesn't make sense to me is that you want to throw away Grayson and Royce like they are garbage. What do you think we'd get back in return? Would what we get back more crucial to our development vs what they are already? Royce I can see being a veteran presence that a team would value, but what would we get back?
I think we should continue to keep Grayson unless there is a deal where we get significant value in return. This board vastly underrates both players and vastly overrates what each of them could bring back.
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I like Goodwin as well, but both Allen and O'Neal beat him in almost every metric. I'm not sure why you would compare the three of them. Allen is a much better shooter and Royce can guard more positions. If the choice was between Goody and one of the other two, I'd probably lose Royce over Allen.
There is huge difference between true goto players and complementary ones. On the Suns, Book and Brooks count for 1.5 or 1.7 goto guys, potentially Green could make it 2.5-2.7. Gillespie can be very effective next to 1-2 star players, as the secondary playmaker and 3pt shooter. Allen and RO are even lesser in this role. None of them can fill the expectation we have with Green. Highsmith is insurance for the case Goodwin is priced out of our range in the summer, due to our plan to stay under the luxary tax. Coffey is a solid min player. If we cannot retain Goodwin I'd prefer to try Okogie again.
Green can be good when he penetrates. When he ISO's and takes the contested three he is no good.
The reason for trading Allen/O'Neale is playing time and money. They have saved us many times this year. Can we afford to (re)sign Gillespie and Goodwin without shedding some salary?
The reason for trading Allen/O'Neale is playing time and money. They have saved us many times this year. Can we afford to (re)sign Gillespie and Goodwin without shedding some salary?
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The repeater tax will come into play again. We were over the first 2 years of the CBA and got back under this year. To trigger the repeater penalty we need to be over 3 of the pdevi 4 years. Going over next year triggers it. We'll need to shed salary somew or have our picks frozen at the end of the first round. Odds are well need to move Grayson amd Rouce to retai Collin, Goodwin, and Williams. Royce and Grayson combo for about $29 million. The cap is set to be about $166m with the tax at $201.7m. Excluding Williams, Collin, and Goodwin's cap holds, they're at roughly $185m. So $20 million before we let anyone go. Gillepsie will see probably $14m, Goodwin about $3-4m, and the rest gows towards Williams extension.
It's goi to require some creatively to keep everyone and avoid the tax. Like talking Williams info waiting a year for his extension and playing on the qualifying offer with a peomis we'll make things right. Considering his inju history though I doubt he'd be willing and can't blam him entirely.
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