Poll: RB Situation

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by Solar7, Mar 25, 2021.

What do we need at RB?

  1. Yes, in the 1st or 2nd round as a potential starter

    41 vote(s)
    55.4%
  2. Only draft one in the 5th round or beyond

    10 vote(s)
    13.5%
  3. Package picks/players to move into the 3rd/4th for an RB (which picks/players?)

    9 vote(s)
    12.2%
  4. Only look at the UDFA market

    2 vote(s)
    2.7%
  5. A free agent to compete for the starter spot with Edmonds (please name)

    5 vote(s)
    6.8%
  6. A free agent to be a clear backup, Edmonds unquestioned starter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. A combination of 5th or later pick/UDFA/FAs for depth, Edmonds unquestioned starter

    7 vote(s)
    9.5%
  8. Trade for our starter/competition with Edmonds

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Do not add any players at the position, we're set, Edmonds is the starter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Chopper0080

    Chopper0080 2021 - Prove It

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    It is more the collection of talent as much as anything. That is why I said it was a bit of a trap.

    Humphries is a top 12 LT.
    Pugh a top 12 LG.
    Hudson a top 5 C.
    RG - meh
    Beachum a top 16 RT.

    And those are fairly conservative ranks. So, we have 1 elite player, 2 above average player, 1 average player and one bottom half spot. That is a pretty impressive collection of talent that most teams just do not have.
     
  2. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    I question the rankings of Pugh and particularly beachum but have neither the time nor inclination to research them.
     
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    I'm kinda with Ouchie, I don't know where these ranks are coming from, but I don't really want to hunt them down. My fear is that this is all based off of PFF grades.

    I'm not going to split hairs too much on Humphries but I'm imagining that when preseason ranks come out, professionals will have him more in the 15 range.

    I don't think the Cardinals would be considering the cut of a top 12 guard in a league that starts 64 of them a week.

    Hudson, no argument.

    I also don't see this with Beachum. He was considered like the 10th best tackle in free agency, so it's hard for me to call him a top 16 guy.
     
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    Chopper0080 2021 - Prove It

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    You would shocked at the list of starting LGs in the NFL. Ereck Flowers and Jon Feliciano and Connor Williams are all probably top 16.

    In regards to Beachum...kinda depends on how you view Billy Turner and Braden Smith.
     
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    Top 12 LG not OG. And he wasn't getting cut because he wasn't good...it was because it would save 9 mil. Even with the cut, Pugh's average per year is 8th highest for NFL LGs.
     
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    There's a difference between "not good" and "replaceable" though.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    LOL @Solar7 said Rams.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    I take them with a grain of salt, but Humphries was PFFs 4th rated TACKLE.
     
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    Pass blocking wise our line is great, RG the only avg player.

    Run blocking wise, they are probably mediocre at best.

    But I agree, people still acting like we need offensive lineman are way off base when you compare it to our needs at many other positions.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    Stats are stats.

    2019 the Cardinals averaged the highest yard per carry in their over century of playing football.

    No one on this board discounted the Seahawks rushing attack when Wilson and Lynch were together.
     
  11. Solar7

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    PFF's rankings can be informative, but I'm not going to take a single season PFF grade over a bigger picture of their career as it pertains to other players. Lots of elements make players have up and down years.

    Lynch wasn't heading up a backfield that was 2nd to last for RB production.
     
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    BullheadCardFan Go for it Contributor

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    How many of those yards were KM scrambling?

    It skews the numbers IMO
     
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    Almost every player in the NFL is replaceable. They were going to cut him because he was costing in the top 3 of NFL LGs. When he was willing to be paid to be the 8th highest LG they kept him.

    They were willing to pay a top 12 player the 8th highest salary but not the 3rd highest salary.
     
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    Read his entire post.
     
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    I did.

    When we didn't have a mobile QB the stats came solely from our RB's and WR's.

    Or am I missing something?
     

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