OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[some dumb guy]

It’s definitely not the geriatric's here that are so soft they are triggered by dogs, jerseys, and instagram.

602, I appreciate your input on this forum and I appreciate your contribution to social security so I can sit on my butt drinking a beer you're paying for...

 

[Crimson Warrior]

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@kerouac9 - swoosh still with us apparently...

 

[602 Native]

602, I appreciate your input on this forum and I appreciate your contribution to social security so I can sit on my butt drinking a beer you're paying for...

I’m a business owner so you’re welcome x2.

 

[602 Native]

Wow! No one is forcing you to be here.

This is your response……….

Seek help

 

[602 Native]

will purdy or their backup play better than murray this weekend?

Every QB so far could set up a picnic back there and throw.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Every QB so far could set up a picnic back there and throw.

must be our terrible fan base

 

[Adrian]

Cardinals’ Kyler Murray apologizes for Michael Vick dog IG post

Cardinals QB Kyler Murray recently posted a controversial photo wearing a Michael Vick jersey, posing with his pet dog.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’m a business owner so you’re welcome x2.

Is a Fan Club an actual business?

 

[BritCard]

Nah. Kyler would get snapped up by a bunch of teams:

Miami
New York Jets
Cleveland
Colts
Raiders
Giants
Saints
Panthers

Plus the Cards. We may be in the situation where we have a league-average QB. Odds are even whoever would replace him would be as good or worse.

I totally understand wanting a different flavor of QB after this time.

I honestly don't think they would.

Panthers, Browns and Saints maybe. There's nothing between Tua and Kyler. Danny Dimes looks great in Indi. Carroll knows what he has in Geno. Giants have a young guy they like and Russ just threw for 450 yards.

But at what price? Would they give him a prove it contract if he was a free agent? Sure. Would they trade anything of value and pick up the bulk of his current deal? I doubt it.

If they will please let Monti take it. I'm fully done.

 

[DVontel]

There's nothing between Tua and Kyler.

You’re not serious.

 

[DVontel]

If you thought the amount of slander & heavy criticism Kyler receives is a lot, I couldn’t imagine how much worse it would be if Tua with his current play & contract was here instead. Would probably be enough for people to really take a break from the team.

 

[schutd]

Think I'm going to need about 100 more pages of spirited debate before deciding if he's the guy or not.

One week out.

 

[BritCard]

You’re not serious.

I'm completely serious. What do you think separates them?

Tua has 66 career games. If we look at the first 66 games in the league of both. Tua first.

15,935 yards vs 15,809
103 TD passes vs 95
47 INTs vs 46
7.62 YPA vs 6.96
68.2% comp rate vs 66.6%.
97.7 Passer rating vs 92.3

Both have one playoff appearance and both stank, although Kyler stank more.

Kyler is just Tua with wheels.

 

[DVontel]

I'm completely serious. What do you think separates them?

Tua has 66 career games. If we look at the first 66 games in the league of both. Tua first.

15,935 yards vs 15,809
103 TD passes vs 95
47 INTs vs 46
7.62 YPA vs 6.96
68.2% comp rate vs 66.6%.

Both have one playoff appearance and both stank, although Kyler stank more.

Kyler is just Tua with wheels.

So, there is something between the two?

As of right now, Kyler is a better thrower at all levels of the field & decision maker than Tua. That’s not really Kyler praise as much as it is how bad Tua is. Kyler is just mid while Tua is a liability.

As much as you hate Kyler, I believe you would REALLY hate Tua if you switched the two.

 

[BritCard]

So, there is something between the two?

As of right now, Kyler is a better thrower at all levels of the field & decision maker than Tua. That’s not really Kyler praise as much as it is how bad Tua is. Kyler is just mid while Tua is a liability.

As much as you hate Kyler, I believe you would REALLY hate Tua if you switched the two.

I don't hate Kyler, I just think he sucks. I would think the same of Tua if he was here too. I literally think they are the same passer, but Kyler can run.

Both handcuffed their franchises to mediocrity by being just good enough to extend.

 

[WeBlitz]

Kyler frustrates me a lot, but I still watch the games.

Tua would make me stop watching games.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

hopefully our first 2 outings were simply duds partly due to rust and conservative playcall on both sides of the ball

rallis needs to get this 187 going man - that kumbaya pacifist front 4 was nauseating - monti gave him all those weapons - where's the bad intentions? let the bodies hit the floor

offense is simple to me - keep playing offense in the 2nd half - hypnotize kyler before the game and let him believe there's a 3rd half - tell him there's 3 halves in football lol 6 quarters - maybe he'll play better in the 2nd half

 

[BullheadCardFan]

offense is simple to me - keep playing offense in the 2nd half - hypnotize kyler before the game and let him believe there's a 3rd half - tell him there's 3 halves in football lol 6 quarters - maybe he'll play better in the 2nd half

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[602 Native]

Is a Fan Club an actual business?

You have no idea how lucrative it is.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I don't hate Kyler, I just think he sucks. I would think the same of Tua if he was here too. I literally think they are the same passer, but Kyler can run.

Both handcuffed their franchises to mediocrity by being just good enough to extend.

I'm on team I don't want either of them!

 

[Stout]

I don't hate Kyler, I just think he sucks. I would think the same of Tua if he was here too. I literally think they are the same passer, but Kyler can run.

Both handcuffed their franchises to mediocrity by being just good enough to extend.

Kyler wasn't good enough to extend. There was no reason to do it a year early, and if they had done it properly, he would never have gotten so much money. Or he would be gone.

 

[PDXChris]

You’re not serious.

Yup! Tua thinks today is Purple! His brain is mush and he should retire.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Cardinals’ Kyler Murray apologizes for Michael Vick dog IG post

Cardinals QB Kyler Murray recently posted a controversial photo wearing a Michael Vick jersey, posing with his pet dog.

sports.yahoo.com

Huge props to Kyler for taking down the post and spoiling his pups as they deserve to be spoiled. Glad that he understands why so many have an issue with the post.

 

[Adrian]

Kyler is a good dude.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Glad that most in our group can find it in their hearts to forgive.