OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[slanidrac16]

We win 11 or 12 games and no one on this board will be saying he’s mid.

You are correct…. But the proof is in the pudding. It hasn’t happened and with this “ putrid “ talent he is surrounded with I’m pretty sure he isn’t going to elevate and lead this team to 12 wins.

 

[slanidrac16]

I wonder if Lomax's percentage was due to the era? I recall him as a VG QB.

I thought he was. I recall a lot of bombs.

 

[Shane]

You are correct…. But the proof is in the pudding. It hasn’t happened and with this “ putrid “ talent he is surrounded with I’m pretty sure he isn’t going to elevate and lead this team to 12 wins.

Ehhh we could win 11-12 games and him still be perfectly mid. If the D is as improved as we hope. Thats only a 3 game swing.

 

[slanidrac16]

Ehhh we could win 11-12 games and him still be perfectly mid. If the D is as improved as we hope. Thats only a 3 game swing.

I suppose . But I’m not counting on it.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Agreed! I do think we can win with him at his current salary.

Now if we make the playoffs and he wants another big extension I am out

Now he makes the playoffs, wins a game or 2, doesn't demand an extension and does it again. Pay him whatever don't care

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Ehhh we could win 11-12 games and him still be perfectly mid. If the D is as improved as we hope. Thats only a 3 game swing.

That's my bet but if he can be consistently like QB 10-12 I don't care

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

we're heading into year 7 and instead of wondering if kyler will make the hall of fame we're wondering if he'll make the playoffs - and that's with a solid running game and the meanest looking defense we've seen in a decade - and we're still wondering - highest touted wr in a wr filled draft we're still wondering - best tight end we ever had forever wondering

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

we're heading into year 7 and instead of wondering if kyler will make the hall of fame we're wondering if he'll make the playoffs - and that's with a solid running game and the meanest looking defense we've seen in a decade - and we're still wondering - highest touted wr in a wr filled draft we're still wondering - best tight end we ever had forever wondering

Expecting the hall of fame is just unrealistic. Look at Palmer and Warner...older QBs who grew

 

[AZCB34]

Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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Thankfully coaches…and teammates…and front offices…and owners…have never lied or embellished.

 

[602 Native]

Thankfully coaches…and teammates…and front offices…and owners…have never lied or embellished.

So now JG is a liar.

You people must be super fun at parties.

 

[schutd]

Confession: I click on the last page of this thread a couple times a week simply to un-bold the title on the main page. It hurts my soul that y'all are still at it over here.

 

[AZCB34]

So now JG is a liar.

You people must be super fun at parties.

Liar? Probably not. But like all humans, he may also play loose with the truth at times. He may be trying to send a message. Kyler may very well be doing what he says. Nobody here knows for sure.

The fact that you cannot expand your mind at all to acknowledge possibilities is a serious character flaw you should consider working on.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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How is that "facts" about anything. So if I stay up until 3 AM playing video games or hanging with friends, and then turn the tape on for 20 minutes. Does that means I'm burning the midnight oil studying film? The only facts that can be garnered from that tweet is that K1 stays up late.

 

[WeBlitz]

Liar? Probably not. But like all humans, he may also play loose with the truth at times. He may be trying to send a message. Kyler may very well be doing what he says. Nobody here knows for sure.

He may do this, he may do that. She may do this, she may do that.

What was the absolute point of your posts?

 

[DVontel]

What is this page? lol

 

[602 Native]

Tossed a grenade into the K1 doesn’t work hard and study the game nest and the feelings and thoughts crowd turn on the coach and say he’s a liar.

Love it.

 

[602 Native]

Well if MHJ isn’t it’s all his fault but if he is awesome it will be because of Kyler.
Am I reading you right?

Or he was the wrong pick and Nabers says hello with scrubs throwing to him.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

hey coach sorry to call so late but im watching rudy

hey kyler that's a great film but don't worry you'll never have to work at the steel mill

thx coach

goodnight kyler

 

[WisconsinCard]

hey coach sorry to call so late but im watching rudy

hey kyler that's a great film but don't worry you'll never have to work at the steel mill

thx coach

goodnight kyler

That's what I'm saying. That tweet is probably true, but doesn't mean he's studying film all night long.

 

[WisconsinCard]

And I'll add that if he is studying (Manning/Brady) hard, then it's not working, and this is as good as he'll ever be. So IMO if he's putting in the work off the field it doesn't bode well as far as him becoming an elite QB.

 

[BritCard]

I'm in a fantasy league for UK cards fans. Five leagues of 10.

Kyler was the 10th QB drafted which is the lowest I've ever seen him go. He's normally 4th or 5th considering it's all Cards fans. Get the feeling a lot of fans are losing faith.

 

[slanidrac16]

He can study until the cows come home. He still is not going to see over a d-line that gets to close.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

I'm in a fantasy league for UK cards fans. Five leagues of 10.

Kyler was the 10th QB drafted which is the lowest I've ever seen him go. He's normally 4th or 5th considering it's all Cards fans. Get the feeling a lot of fans are losing faith.

In our scoring system he is ranked about right here he should be. I kept him for a 12th but really my starter is Goff.

Our scoring system. Passing TDs 6 and 5 points for over 300 yards. I don't see any 300 yard games for Kyler in this offense and with this defense.

 

[oaken1]

In our scoring system he is ranked about right here he should be. I kept him for a 12th but really my starter is Goff.

Our scoring system. Passing TDs 6 and 5 points for over 300 yards. I don't see any 300 yard games for Kyler in this offense and with this defense.

kyler has more games under 200 than over 300...

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

kyler has more games under 200 than over 300...

Now add in the post 9 week Gremlin potential and this is why even if you are the most rose colored Card fan you have to have some healthy skepticism.

Both of these are true:

He is the 2nd best QB in Cardinals history.

He is also super mid in the modern NFL