Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

[602 Native]

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No crap!

Which is why if he succeeds there in a big way it will be the worst PR nightmare this team ever has.

 

[kerouac9]

No crap!

Which is why if he succeeds there in a big way it will be the worst PR nightmare this team ever has.

Honestly everyone will have moved on. Sam Darnold won the Super Bowl and it wasn’t a disaster for the Jets, Panthers, 49ers, or Vikes.

(Although the GM did get fired we can only hope)

 

[Brian in Mesa]

No crap!

Which is why if he succeeds there in a big way it will be the worst PR nightmare this team ever has.

Thanks for your two cents, Patrick PEDerson.

 

[602 Native]

Honestly everyone will have moved on. Sam Darnold won the Super Bowl and it wasn’t a disaster for the Jets, Panthers, 49ers, or Vikes.

(Although the GM did get fired we can only hope)

The Vikes GM was fired for it.
Jets and Panthers like us are already disasters.
49ers are a McCafferey injury away from being irrelevant.

If the Vikes go to the playoffs and win a single game it will prove we failed K1.

 

[Zalixar]

If the Vikes go to the playoffs and win a single game it will prove we failed K1.

It would put him a notch above JJ, washed up Wentz, and Brosmer, and right at Keenum/Cousins(ish). I suppose that would be considered successful

Vikings have a history as one of the most winning franchises in history with a team ready to go. If they don't live up to a lowly 9 wins as last year with THAT group of QB's...what does that make him?

He should be taking them to championship +

 

[602 Native]

It would put him a notch above JJ, washed up Wentz, and Brosmer, and right at Keenum/Cousins(ish). I suppose that would be considered successful

Vikings have a history as one of the most winning franchises in history with a team ready to go. If they don't live up to a lowly 9 wins as last year with THAT group of QB's...what does that make him?

He should be taking them to championship +

Now do the Cardinals

 

[some dumb guy]

The Vikes GM was fired for it.
Jets and Panthers like us are already disasters.
49ers are a McCafferey injury away from being irrelevant.

If the Vikes go to the playoffs and win a single game it will prove we failed K1.

Does this mean if Love is the player we hope he is, the CARDINAL'S WILL BE RELEVANT?? Works for me....

 

[Zalixar]

Now do the Cardinals

Sure, they didn't have an all star team by any stretch and we all know we suck historically, but they had some decent pieces to get somewhere.

That's the thing about him, he needs a superstar team. He's a good QB, just not one that elevates his team like an elite/great one.

With the Vikings he better win at least 1 playoff minimum for sure if he's worth any specs of salt. That is, if he can finish a season. He had several great half seasons and even one MVP one!

 

[kerouac9]

49ers are a McCafferey injury away from being irrelevant.

Okay brother

 

[JRakes]

2019–2022 (pre-injury): 57 games

• 2,204 rushing yards → 38.7 yards/game
• 381 attempts → 6.7 carries/game at 5.8 yards/attempt
• 23 rushing TDs (one every 2.5 games), 127 rushing first downs (2.2/game)
• Peak season: 2020 — 51.2 Y/G, 11 TDs, 8.3 attempts/game

2023–2025 (post-injury): 30 games

• 989 rushing yards → 33.0 yards/game
• 151 attempts → 5.0 carries/game at 6.6 yards/attempt
• 9 rushing TDs (one every 3.3 games), 52 first downs (1.7/game)

The volume dropped, not the ability. He's running ~25% less often (6.7 → 5.0 carries/game), which accounts for nearly all the per-game yardage decline because his efficiency actually went up after the injury, from 5.8 to 6.6 yards per attempt. 2024's 7.3 Y/A is the best rate of his career, and his year-by-year Y/G has been quietly climbing back (30.5 → 33.6 → 34.6).

So the post-ACL Kyler isn't a diminished runner, he's a more selective one: fewer designed carries and scrambles, but better yardage when he goes. The thing that hasn't recovered is the touchdown and first-down production, which tracks with fewer short-yardage and goal-line keepers, the exact plays a team protects a rebuilt knee from.

The 2020 season remains the outlier ceiling: 819 yards and 11 TDs from a QB is video-game stuff. The 2023–25 version is closer to "efficient scrambler" than "designed weapon" and seems more to do with the play calling vs him not wanting to run. We will see in Minny is that is that case I guess.

He wasn’t more selective, he’d just duck outta bounds real quick.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

The Vikes GM was fired for it.
Jets and Panthers like us are already disasters.
49ers are a McCafferey injury away from being irrelevant.

If the Vikes go to the playoffs and win a single game it will prove we failed K1.

It’s not going to happen.

What made Murray really special was his mobility.

But he can’t stay healthy enough to use it to be a catalyst like he was in 2019 to 2021.

And, although less important, something weird happened to his passing game too. He’s pretty average now.

Anyway, he’s lost whatever magic he had coming out of college.

He had it going for a minute and, and it was awesome to watch, but he’s done.

Too fragile, plus he wasn’t playing like he loved the game in 2025.

That last part might change with the new digs, but physically his window has closed. Sucks.

Kyler Murray, shooting star.

 

[Stout]

The Vikes GM was fired for it.
Jets and Panthers like us are already disasters.
49ers are a McCafferey injury away from being irrelevant.

If the Vikes go to the playoffs and win a single game it will prove we failed K1.

Or it will prove that he's a nothing QB that needs a VASTLY superior level of offensive talent to win in the playoffs.

 

[DVontel]

Or it will prove that he's a nothing QB that needs a VASTLY superior level of offensive talent to win in the playoffs.

Every QB does or at least should want to.

 

[Stout]

Every QB does or at least should want to.

Should want to, yes. That's the hope. A great QB can excel and lead a team to playoff success with a merely good or even average amount of talent around him.

 

[602 Native]

Sure, they didn't have an all star team by any stretch and we all know we suck historically, but they had some decent pieces to get somewhere.

That's the thing about him, he needs a superstar team. He's a good QB, just not one that elevates his team like an elite/great one.

With the Vikings he better win at least 1 playoff minimum for sure if he's worth any specs of salt. That is, if he can finish a season. He had several great half seasons and even one MVP one!

LOL

“They didn’t have an all star team”

More delusion.

You people really think we were ever a great team.

We weren’t, we were a team carried by 2-3 players with crap in between.

When one of those players wasn’t in or played poorly it was lights out.

Watt, Hopkins, K1 was about it. The rest are set pieces on a terrible team.

Now we don’t have a single star on the team. 1-11 last season without stars and maybe 3 wins this season.

All star team

LMFAO

 

[602 Native]

Or it will prove that he's a nothing QB that needs a VASTLY superior level of offensive talent to win in the playoffs.

Now do Joe Burrow

 

[Zalixar]

LOL

“They didn’t have an all star team”

More delusion.

You people really think we were ever a great team.

We weren’t, we were a team carried by 2-3 players with crap in between.

When one of those players wasn’t in or played poorly it was lights out.

Watt, Hopkins, K1 was about it. The rest are set pieces on a terrible team.

Now we don’t have a single star on the team. 1-11 last season without stars and maybe 3 wins this season.

All star team

LMFAO

Right...he didn't have an all star team by any stretch...is what I said, so we agree. So no idea what this rant is about.

Only 2-3 good players is quite disingenuous. Only further to make excuses for Kyler who couldn't last a whole season or show up when it counts. This is coming from a Kyler fan btw.

The last couple years we had less, of course, but Kyler wasn't near as good anymore so it didn't matter what team we had, unless we had the 00 Ravens.

 

[Stout]

Now do Joe Burrow

KM would get demolished behind the offensive lines he's had. Their receivers wouldn't be enough to save him.

 

[Zalixar]

KM would get demolished behind the offensive lines he's had. Their receivers wouldn't be enough to save him.

He'd get used to shrinking in the fetal position

 

[speedy]

I’m excited to see Kyler play for a different franchise. If he wins a playoff game, no doubt it’s gonna sting, but I’m not going to cut myself or call seek a therapist to help me get past the loss.

Here’s the only thing I can think about:

CARDINAL FRANCHISE WINNING % BY DECADE:

60’s: .514
70’s: .493
80’s: .414
90’s: .363
00’s: .388
10’s: .475
20’s: .376

Outside of BA (who we shoved out the door) this franchise has been straight ish the whole time they’ve been in AZ. My Son has a very good chance to kick on Saturdays, and there’s always a chance he good be lucky enough to do it on Sundays. I’ll just say I don’t want him coming back home, I’d rather go see him.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I’m excited to see Kyler play for a different franchise. If he wins a playoff game, no doubt it’s gonna sting, but I’m not going to cut myself or call seek a therapist to help me get past the loss.

Here’s the only thing I can think about:

CARDINAL FRANCHISE WINNING % BY DECADE:

60’s: .514
70’s: .493
80’s: .414
90’s: .363
00’s: .388
10’s: .475
20’s: .376

Outside of BA (who we shoved out the door) this franchise has been straight ish the whole time they’ve been in AZ. My Son has a very good chance to kick on Saturdays, and there’s always a chance he good be lucky enough to do it on Sundays. I’ll just say I don’t want him coming back home, I’d rather go see him.

So, the second lowest win percentage by decade was while K1 was the QB...hmmm. Good info.

 

[602 Native]

KM would get demolished behind the offensive lines he's had. Their receivers wouldn't be enough to save him.

You talk like our line has been good

My point is no QB looks good in terrible situations. He’ll you had posters on this forum questioning whether Mahomes was good.

 

[602 Native]

I’m excited to see Kyler play for a different franchise. If he wins a playoff game, no doubt it’s gonna sting, but I’m not going to cut myself or call seek a therapist to help me get past the loss.

Here’s the only thing I can think about:

CARDINAL FRANCHISE WINNING % BY DECADE:

60’s: .514
70’s: .493
80’s: .414
90’s: .363
00’s: .388
10’s: .475
20’s: .376

Outside of BA (who we shoved out the door) this franchise has been straight ish the whole time they’ve been in AZ. My Son has a very good chance to kick on Saturdays, and there’s always a chance he good be lucky enough to do it on Sundays. I’ll just say I don’t want him coming back home, I’d rather go see him.

Exactly!

This retcon of Cards history to throw K1 in the trash to pretend it was all him.

 

[Stout]

You talk like our line has been good

My point is no QB looks good in terrible situations. He’ll you had posters on this forum questioning whether Mahomes was good.

So much for your point about Burrow.

How about when they were smoking teams left and right and had to later back into the playoffs? Or when all he had to do was lead his team to victory over a backup QB? Like a bad poker hand, he folded.