NBA Trade Deadline news and rumors 2019-20 season

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  1. hcsilla

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    I'm not sure how overrated is and how overdrafted will be Nico Mannion, but I do like him as a prospect and would be very happy if the Suns can take him if their pick is a non-top4 one. Same goes for Obi Toppin but he is ever more unlikely to be available if the Suns don't get a top4 pick.
     
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    Have you seen Mannion play this season against Wake Forest, Baylor, Gonzaga, St. John's, Oregon, Oregon State and Colorado?
     
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    No. And you?
     
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    Yes. He has been awful against pretty much every decent opponent he has faced. Awful across the board there, with the exception of playing decent defense in stretches against Pritchard and shooting better from midrange at Oregon (though he was an awful 1-5 from three point range and had twice as many turnovers as assists that game).

    One game against decent competition I did not see was the conference opener against ASU, but even in that blowout win, Mannion's numbers were awful. (Even the one decent stat in his 7 assists was countered by 4 turnovers.)

    My observation: Mannion wilts under pressure. When he is clearly the best player on the court by a bunch, he shines, but the moment he faces any kind of competition he chokes. Another softy. The NBA will eat him up alive.
     
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  5. TJ

    TJ Ain’t No Fairytale

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    Nico seems like he’ll be Ricky Rubio with a better offensive repertoire. Worth the pick around 8-14 if available.

    If you want me to put my UofA homer hat on and tell you who from UofA would fit well for the Suns, it’d
    be Zeke Nnaji.
     
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    I would take Nnaji in a heartbeat. In my opinion he would be a perfect fit here.

    Unfortunately, Mannion, at least thus far this season, is looking more like Mustafa Shakur than Ricky Rubio.
     
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    Wow, I actually completely agree.

    And this too!
     
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    If only he is on the board when the Suns draft and they take him. I have no confidence in the Suns scouting.
     
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    Nor do I, and I have even less confidence in James Jones picking and Sarver's continued meddling.

    Most likely Suns Lottery pick, based on the M.O. of both:

    Nico Mannion
    Markus Howard
    Payton Pritchard
    Jordan Nwora
    Paul Reed
    Omer Yurtseven
    Deni Avdija
    Udo Azubuike
    Chris Smith

    Who the Suns SHOULD be targeting:

    Vernon Carey
    Isaiah Stewart
    Zeke Nnaji
    Onyeka Okongwu
    Obi Toppin
    Precious Achiuwa
    Tyrese Haliburton

    Players the Suns should be avoiding at all costs:

    Mannion
    Avdija
    LaMelo Ball
    Jaden McDaniels
    Theo Maledon
    RJ Hampton
    Tyrese Maxey
     
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    Doesn’t help that Jones was critical of Sean Miller’s coaching when Ayton was drafted.
     
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    Well, there I am in agreement with Jones...
     
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    I'm more interested in the player than the coaching although if the Suns thought Ayton was near a finished product, then that might be an issue. A lot of players coming into the NBA are not close to being finished products.
     
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    Least of all Ayton, who was introduced to the game relatively late, and who never had any good steady coaching...
     
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