Monday night football Vikings@Bears

[Russ Smith]

late throw or Jones might have scored on that

 

[Russ Smith]

Give it up for the kid he completely flipped his performance tonight

 

[Hoodhero]

Bears fans are going to be sick tomorrow

 

[Russ Smith]

not sure but I think if Caleb throws a picksix I'll win.

 

[unseenaz]

Caleb Williams is not good, even if you squint.

 

[Russ Smith]

Caleb Williams is not good, even if you squint.

He tends to throw sidearm and those are the ones that sail on him, but you can see the live arm and the great legs. Needs polish but I'd certainly take him over McCarthy

 

[unseenaz]

He tends to throw sidearm and those are the ones that sail on him, but you can see the live arm and the great legs. Needs polish but I'd certainly take him over McCarthy

He just doesn't have any touch at all. Overthrowing receivers all game, very late on throws, etc.

 

[JosiahLee]

This game is more confirmation for me that Petzing really does suck. It only took a half of football for McCarthy to settle right into a qb friendly scheme. No wonder they didn’t care to resign Darnold…The coaching is too good.

 

[Russ Smith]

He just doesn't have any touch at all. Overthrowing receivers all game, very late on throws, etc.

yeah they both tend to throw everything hard but he's just got a much higher ceiling than McCarthy. He's like Josh Allen when he first came into the league, anybody's guess if he works as hard as Josh does

 

[Russ Smith]

Congrats to McCarthy and hats off to the coaches I would have pulled him after that picksix but they stuck with him and he played well after that.

 

[kerouac9]

Man this whole thread was a JOURNEY for some of y’all

 

[Russ Smith]

Man this whole thread was a JOURNEY for some of y’all

56 yards passing a picksix, followed by a horrible drive where he had a delay of game on 3rd down and then the coach ran it on 3rd and 18 afraid to let him throw. Next drive 2 screens to RB's and then a short incompletion and a punt. And then he got his sea legs and had a terrific 4th quarter.

he was abysmal through 3 quarters. Had a great 4th quarter. All the credit in the world for not folding but he was absolutely awful for 3 quarters of the game.

 

[oaken1]

56 yards passing a picksix, followed by a horrible drive where he had a delay of game on 3rd down and then the coach ran it on 3rd and 18 afraid to let him throw. Next drive 2 screens to RB's and then a short incompletion and a punt. And then he got his sea legs and had a terrific 4th quarter.

he was abysmal through 3 quarters. Had a great 4th quarter. All the credit in the world for not folding but he was absolutely awful for 3 quarters of the game.

so the theme this week is to continue building on the success he found late in the game. He figured it out.
thats the coach speak on it....thats what they will tell the owner over the phone while they are pounding cheap scotch in their office hoping like hell they are right, lol

 

[Garthshort]

First start but McCarthy looks terrible. I was never sold on him in college run happy offense with an NFL coach as his coach so very QB friendly. Has the size and the arm but not polished. Caleb looks good

What's the expression, "It's not how you start, but how you finish".

 

[Garthshort]

Minneapolis/Chicago, a Tale of Two Cities!

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times".

 

[602 Native]

An example of two teams that actually have good offensive NFL minds.

We get Uncle Fester and his Wing-T offense.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

JJ going in the first round was baffling. The dude was a game manager in college.

this didnt age well

 

[Phrazbit]

this didnt age well

Still feel the same. Both teams looked terrible.

 

[Russ Smith]

Still feel the same. Both teams looked terrible.

yeah he had a nice 4th quarter but I think that's as much to do with the Bears being tired as most teams get in the first game. Plus the guy who had the picksix, Nashon Wright, was an injury replacement for the starter Jalon Johnson, Wright pulled up lame 3rd quarter on a play we never actually saw how he got hurt seemed to just pull something as he was running. He went out and never came back in so they had a 3rd string CB playing the entire 4th quarter.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Still feel the same. Both teams looked terrible.

thats fair but come on JJ McCarthy dug deep on the road that forth quarter you gotta admit that was impressive

 

[Bkbobo]

I guess the Bears were who we thought they are. They let the Vikings off the hook, lol

 

[Phrazbit]

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Woof

 

[Chopper0080]

He tends to throw sidearm and those are the ones that sail on him, but you can see the live arm and the great legs. Needs polish but I'd certainly take him over McCarthy

Hell no.

 

[Chopper0080]

this didnt age well

Yeah...dumb take.

 

[Chopper0080]

Congrats to McCarthy and hats off to the coaches I would have pulled him after that picksix but they stuck with him and he played well after that.

I imagine this is what you do when you draft a young QB who is resilient.

One of the reasons McCarthy is going to be successful is because he is with a coach who has demonstrated the ability to get the most out of QBs. KOC was a 4 year starting QB in college and then had a short pro career. His OC is the son of Wade Phillips and played QB for 3 years a UTEP. The QB coach is Josh McCown who had an 18 year NFL career. They had McCarthy work with Brian Flores all of last year after he was injured to learn about NFL defenses and coverages. Next level support and plan for a young QB to grow and be successful.

This is one area where I will defend Kyler to a degree, especially under Monti and Gannon. Dude has the Hamburglar to give him feedback and bounce ideas off of and Mini Me calling plays. It's not a shock our offense sucks IMO. There is not one individual in the building who has an understanding how to get a QB in rhythm on offense, and how to call a flowing offensive game. It's pretty much throwing spaghetti against the wall and Kyler seems to go along with it.