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Yes, a borderline top 15-20 WR would be better than a top 3 defensive player in the league for us. Sure.
Micah Parsons traded to the Packers. Deal is done!
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A Dallas contract squabble with a star player usually ends with a new contract of the player’s liking.
Their lessor star QB still plays in Dallas, right?
Their lessor star QB still plays in Dallas, right?
I disagree that age is not a factor. Parsons is far more valuable because he is so much younger.But couldn’t you get the same with Hendrickson for a much lesser price.
10M less in salary and only give up a 2nd for 2-3 years of production vs. 4–5 years with Parsons.
(Playing Devil’s advocate)
And…. They both fail in the 64 start rule, so age is not a factor
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Strong disagreement for several reasons.
1 - McLaurin is Kyler dependent which historically has been hit or miss.
2 - We are a low volume passing team so unless he becomes target 1, one of McLaurin and MHJ will be under-utilized.
3 - Parsons is a few years younger.
Now, if you want to run a cost analysis of compensation cost and expected salary cost, I am sure it makes it more of an argument, but both of those things are very difficult to accurately project.
Does one worry about wear and tear?
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Also neither are actually available for trade so it’s all #content
age is nothing but a number in the nfl and it drives me nuts when people try to antiquate it with today's nfl
if the player is older and in decline then sure - but if you're only signing someone for 3 years does it matter if they're 23 or 29? teams don't keep players very long for the most part especially when they out play their contract - they can become too valuable/expensive
all im saying is when looking at age the only thing that matters is the contract duration and it's timeline - and will the player be in decline (due to age) at any point during said contract
hell - give me the guy in his late 20s on a 3 year contract especially on the positions where experience is crucial
if the player is older and in decline then sure - but if you're only signing someone for 3 years does it matter if they're 23 or 29? teams don't keep players very long for the most part especially when they out play their contract - they can become too valuable/expensive
all im saying is when looking at age the only thing that matters is the contract duration and it's timeline - and will the player be in decline (due to age) at any point during said contract
hell - give me the guy in his late 20s on a 3 year contract especially on the positions where experience is crucial
also my philosophy with will johnson and why i couldn't understand why he continued to drop in the 2nd round - i didn't see anyone anywhere doubting he'd be able to fulfill his 4 year contract - MUCH THE OPPOSITE IMO - you're getting a cb with bad ass ************ written on his wallet for at least 4 years at a crazy insane discount and we believed in him - if he's still playing in 6 or 7 years might probably be in az
well some of course. But the main concern is just age...it isnt just running backs that suffer a physical decline at 30...it happens to everybody. But running back just shows quicker due to the nature of the position.
Hendrikson is "less" likely to drop off...because his play style doesnt rely on quickness as much as a pure speed rusher. But if you are looking at a flat first round pick...for either or...to get value for your investment you are expecting Hendrikson to produce to 35...and Parsons to produce to 31....seems to me you are going to get at least one more year of full production from Parsons, even as more of a speed rusher....
unless Hendrikson becomes one of those anomalies that produce until 37....eeeehh,...but Parsons could be the same...in which case you still get more long term benefit from the younger guy.
I just wouldnt expect more than 3 effective seasons from Hendrikson...but with Parsons I expect in three seasons we would be debating an extension Versus a trade
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LOVE content season
right?? Theres almost as much content as the regular season
The age part was a joke…
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Mclaurin is ranked everywhere as a top 10 receiver, and as high as 5th.
The cost to acquire him would be far less as well - and IMO we need another receiver much more than a pass rusher - as you can do that by committee, and I think we already have the personnel to do it by committee.
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Yes it does matter if they are 23 or 29. 23 year old's often get better, 29 year old's usually get worse.
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He is not better than the following:
Ja’Marr Chase
Justin Jefferson
AJ Brown
CeeDee Lamb
Nico Collins
Puka Nacua
Brian Thomas
Malik Nabers
No where he is ranked 5th. Not a chance in hell.
The following have an argument over him or will pass him
Amon-Ra
Drake London
Mike Evans
JSN
Garrett Wilson
Ladd McConkey
Courtland Sutton
Marvin Harrison Jr
Tyreek Hill
DeVonta Smith
McLaurin is asking for Ja’Marr Chase money without Ja’Marr Chase production, skillset, & age.
If we’re serious about going deep in the playoffs, we need a Tier 1 EDGE. We do not have that.
Parsons is the much better player at the more premium position while being younger. More capital would be given up obviously, but it would be worth it.
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He was literally 15th in yardage last season. He was 5th in fantasy points last year, but that was the first time he ever broke the top 12.
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He's not better than Brian Thomas or Malik Nabers? I mean they have more potential, but if you need a play made no question you are going with McLaurin with his experience.
I think in your own post you are admitting he is top 10.
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Brian Thomas, with terrible QB play, had a better rookie year than any season McLaurin’s ever had. And same could probably be said about Nabers. Those guys don’t just have more potential, they’ve already produced at a higher level than the majority of Terry’s career with only last season being even debatable.
I’d take either one of those guys over him right now, and if salary and age were thrown in the mix, it wouldn’t be even close.
Not disagreeing with your point, but to be fair he’s “only” asking DK Metcalf money.
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Cowboys have reportedly received no trade calls for Micah Parsons, who misses first practice Thursday with back tightness
Parsons publicly demanded a trade from the Cowboys. So far, no team has reportedly stepped up.
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McLaurin would be a better player for this year’s team.
Parsons is a better player but Terry is a better fit
Parsons is a better player but Terry is a better fit
Jerry Jones goes scorched earth on Micah Parsons' agent, Cowboys star responds on social media
The Cowboys owner isn't happy with how negotiations have played out.
"When we wanted to send the [contract] details to the agent, the agent told us to stick it up our ass," Jones said. "Micah and I talked and then we were gonna send it over to the agent. We had our agreements on term, amount, guarantees, everything."
Saw a rumor that it’s well known behind the scenes that Parson wants to be re-united with Quinn in WAS.
A trade to a divional team let alone the arch rivals is just not happening.
A trade to a divional team let alone the arch rivals is just not happening.
Jerry Jones goes scorched earth on Micah Parsons' agent, Cowboys star responds on social media
The Cowboys owner isn't happy with how negotiations have played out.sports.yahoo.com
Essentially, Jones is complaining that he is being forced to negotiate with the person Parsons hired to negotiate on his behalf. It is a frequent move among club owners to attempt to cut out the supposed middlemen (agents, attorneys, executives) through a one-on-one meeting with players, but this is a case where the team owner is also the team's lead negotiator.
