Micah Parsons traded to the Packers. Deal is done!

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I've told this story many times here, but in the 1988 season, I was a member of the Dallas Cowboys Band - a horns and rhythm section band that played in the stands during games. This was Tom Landry's last season as coach. After Jerry purchased the team, we all signed contracts for the 1989 season, and were hired to play at the ceremony at Dallas City Hall to honor Coach Landry. We were to be paid (80 measly bucks per person) for this gig in the '89 season, according to the contract. Well, Jerry then decided that he was going to do away with live music and go with pre-recorded music and let us all go. And, he didn't pay us for the Tom Landry Day gig. Needless to say, we were all PISSED. A couple of the guys met with some of Jerry's thugs and were told that if we fought him on this, they would make sure we wouldn't be working in the DFW Metroplex for the foreseeable future. It felt very Mafia-like.

I ended up playing a number of gigs with various cover bands for Jerry over the next few years - whenever he would take to the stage to address the crowds, I'd always yell "YOU OWE ME MONEY". Not surprisingly, he never acknowledged me.
That doesn't surprise me. Thankfully A-hole billionaires are getting called out today like never before, but yet they still get away with basically everything. My question is why does the NFL go after say Daniel Snyder, but turn their head with the likes of Jones? I know the answer. it was to save face. Jerry is a bad guy and has done a lot of bad things to people. There's a rumor in Dallas that Jerry settled a NDA for M. Irvin when Irvin violently assaulted a teammate at the training camp barber shop. and I liked Michael Irvin the player, but no one should be above the law. and no NFL owner should be engaging in that type of behavior, yet who knows how many times Jerry has done that. He did it with his own daughter. Beyond that as a fan I am sick of Jerry because he is a fraud and is a cheap skate. He is not the risk taker and big spender that he made everyone to believe initially in the 90's. and it is finally starting to catch up with his team. You can tell the players don't like him and the fans are starting to finally not care anymore. The latter though doesn't matter because yet there are still enough fans that are filling his stadium.
 

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That doesn't surprise me. Thankfully A-hole billionaires are getting called out today like never before, but yet they still get away with basically everything. My question is why does the NFL go after say Daniel Snyder, but turn their head with the likes of Jones? I know the answer. it was to save face. Jerry is a bad guy and has done a lot of bad things to people. There's a rumor in Dallas that Jerry settled a NDA for M. Irvin when Irvin violently assaulted a teammate at the training camp barber shop. and I liked Michael Irvin the player, but no one should be above the law. and no NFL owner should be engaging in that type of behavior, yet who knows how many times Jerry has done that. He did it with his own daughter. Beyond that as a fan I am sick of Jerry because he is a fraud and is a cheap skate. He is not the risk taker and big spender that he made everyone to believe initially in the 90's. and it is finally starting to catch up with his team. You can tell the players don't like him and the fans are starting to finally not care anymore. The latter though doesn't matter because yet there are still enough fans that are filling his stadium.
It's crazy that the Cardinals have a 10-6 record against that Cowboys this century and have won 6 of the last 7 games.

Cowboys just aren't that relevant anymore.
 

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It's crazy that the Cardinals have a 10-6 record against that Cowboys this century and have won 6 of the last 7 games.

Cowboys just aren't that relevant anymore.
For sure, IDK why people keep giving them attention. Now that both Wash and Det both made the NFC title game of late, Dallas is the only team not to hit that mark since they last did in 1995.
 

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Would love to have Parsons but it seems unlikely. I'm more concerned about Nolen right now. Any good disgruntled DTs available looking to get traded?
we dont need to sign any more D Line with or without Nolen. we were looking at cutting a vet and eating his salary as is...if Walter cannot play then we just keep the guy a while longer
 
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we dont need to sign any more D Line with or without Nolen. we were looking at cutting a vet and eating his salary as is...if Walter cannot play then we just keep the guy a while longer
Yup Nichols is running 3rd string as is.
 

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Yeah, people like Steven A make a career out of clowning the cowboys. And Michael Irvin is basically a washed up mascot.
Irvin.....pffft....have never liked the dude...but he was at least somewhat interesting back when he was chasing hookers and buying coke by the kilo...
now he suxx, and is boring to boot. amazing how many of those guys rode that cowboy dynasty right into a broadcast booth.....and for some reason never get fired even though "Bland" seems to be the only personality any of them can deliver....
except Jimmy Johnson...dude had enough personality for all of them. he was fun to watch
especially when he was dropping backhanded shade on jerri jones
 

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Irvin.....pffft....have never liked the dude...but he was at least somewhat interesting back when he was chasing hookers and buying coke by the kilo...
now he suxx, and is boring to boot. amazing how many of those guys rode that cowboy dynasty right into a broadcast booth.....and for some reason never get fired even though "Bland" seems to be the only personality any of them can deliver....
except Jimmy Johnson...dude had enough personality for all of them. he was fun to watch
especially when he was dropping backhanded shade on jerri jones
I liked Irvin the player. He was a great teammate and leader for those super bowl teams. But after he got exposed for being a womanizer and a selfish guy off the field, the cowboys tanked. he lost a lot of credibility in the locker area and could no longer be the vocal leader that the team needed. and his christian repentance story is a joke. I don't buy any of it considering just a couple of years ago in Phoenix he was in a hotel propositioning an employee while she was trying to do her job.
 

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Still too many clueless Cowboys fans, it's simply about ratings. If you want clicks then talk Cowboys.
I was in that boat just a little while ago. Honestly I feel I have a better chance of lightning striking me down rather than the cowboys winning a SB with Jerry Jones again. I'm still a cowboys fan and won't cheer the same way for another team, but I won't celebrate a cowboys season again while Jerry is alive. He is a terrible person.
 

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I was in that boat just a little while ago. Honestly I feel I have a better chance of lightning striking me down rather than the cowboys winning a SB with Jerry Jones again. I'm still a cowboys fan and won't cheer the same way for another team, but I won't celebrate a cowboys season again while Jerry is alive. He is a terrible person.
well Zo...you have always been welcome here...I expect that to continue...
its not totally unheard of for a fan to have a second team.
I grew up a Raiders fan, then adopted the Cardinals when they moved to AZ...but I am still part of the Raider Nation...they are my AFC team.
My biggest fantasy involves a Super Bowl with Raiders Vs Cardinals..a doobie, an ice cold beer...and ********.....and a last second Cardinal win...
the perfect sunday afternoon.


wtf?? one can type *******...but ******** gets starred out??

hmmm..okay, I guess one can no longer type ******** either
 
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well Zo...you have always been welcome here...I expect that to continue...
its not totally unheard of for a fan to have a second team.
I grew up a Raiders fan, then adopted the Cardinals when they moved to AZ...but I am still part of the Raider Nation...they are my AFC team.
My biggest fantasy involves a Super Bowl with Raiders Vs Cardinals..a doobie, an ice cold beer...and ********.....and a last second Cardinal win...
the perfect sunday afternoon.


wtf?? one can type *******...but ******** gets starred out??

hmmm..okay, I guess one can no longer type ******** either
Only chics are allowed to have two teams lol :)
 

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I think McLaurin would be better for the Cards than Parsons.
idk man...

When I think back on each run (1998, 2008, 2014-15), we generally had super good play, if not great, from the LB corps.

Anyone can say what they want about Jamir Miller, but that dude was en Fuego 97-98. He was a big part of the defense that year (big big part of the playoff ass kicking we gave Dallas).

Dansby in the Super Bowl run.

Dansby and Dwash during the last good run (and wasn't that a thing of beauty- I can't think of a better Cardinal organization LB group than those to ****'s).


I think Parsons would be a huge addition in the right now-to-5/6/7 years.

I won't fault the org if they pull that trigger (it will certainly co$t).
 

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idk man...

When I think back on each run (1998, 2008, 2014-15), we generally had super good play, if not great, from the LB corps.

Anyone can say what they want about Jamir Miller, but that dude was en Fuego 97-98. He was a big part of the defense that year (big big part of the playoff ass kicking we gave Dallas).

Dansby in the Super Bowl run.

Dansby and Dwash during the last good run (and wasn't that a thing of beauty- I can't think of a better Cardinal organization LB group than those to ****'s).


I think Parsons would be a huge addition in the right now-to-5/6/7 years.

I won't fault the org if they pull that trigger (it will certainly co$t).
Parsons and Sweat would be a great duo to roll out...especially if DRob and Nolen mature into expectations
 

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Parsons and Sweat would be a great duo to roll out...especially if DRob and Nolen mature into expectations
Agree.

Would love if he’s added, but I think the pricetag is too high for MO to pull the trigger on.

Cowboys would want multiple 1st rounders + extra picks + possibly players.
 
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Agree.

Would love if he’s added, but I think the pricetag is too high for MO to pull the trigger on.

Cowboys would want multiple 1st rounders + extra picks + possibly players.
2 firsts and a third would probably get it done...and it's the rare occasion when I would be cool with it.
Our changes we made already should have us as close to a top 5 defense...adding Micah to the mix likely makes us top 2.....or top 1...depending on which dvoa or pff scores you prefer...
A defense like that goes a looooong way towards helping an efficient offense win a lot of games.
 

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2 firsts and a third would probably get it done...and it's the rare occasion when I would be cool with it.
Our changes we made already should have us as close to a top 5 defense...adding Micah to the mix likely makes us top 2.....or top 1...depending on which dvoa or pff scores you prefer...
A defense like that goes a looooong way towards helping an efficient offense win a lot of games.
But couldn’t you get the same with Hendrickson for a much lesser price.

10M less in salary and only give up a 2nd for 2-3 years of production vs. 4–5 years with Parsons.

(Playing Devil’s advocate)

And…. They both fail in the 64 start rule, so age is not a factor ;)
 

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