League-Wide Injuries Have to be Addressed

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The number of injuries that have crowded the IR list on numerous teams requires action by the NFL. I can’t recall a time when so many teams were so significantly impacted. A few years back the QB position injuries rose to an alarming rate. The NFL took action. There is no way to universally avoid injuries in a contact game; however, steps were taken to adjust penalties on QB hits. Now we seldom see an injury that takes a QB out for the season. I think the league and the refs need to take steps to protect other positions. It’s true no one wants a flag filled game. Year one of major changes will likely result in numerous flags at first as players test the level of enforcement. The NFL will undoubtedly have to send out numerous guideline memos to get the limitations of play clear.

I’ve asked around and part of the problem appears to be a lack of strict enforcement of existing rules. Crackback blocks are all too common. Chop blocks are often ignored as well. The latter tactic is a serious injury cause. We all have seen replays of facemask grab blocks among linemen that are missed as well as hands to the face calls. I’ve also seen tripping go uncalled. Some have suggested adding another Line Judge, moving the Down Judge slightly downfield. Another interesting idea was making it a penalty to leave your feet to block. You could still leave your feet when tackling, defending a pass or attempting to recover a fumble. This is a theoretical way to address targeting when simply blocking. With bigger, faster and stronger being the mantra of the NFL, something needs to happen to reduce player damage. Any ideas?
 

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Flag football for everyone now? That is where DEI NFL is headed. They want teams to include women so NFL is inclusive, Also owners wont get sued by former players for injuries. Season is too long. People really want to see the Big Red play more games this year? Go back to 14 game season. Also players are too soft. They go on IR for pain and not injuries that players used to play through. I recall a season where Dan Dierdorf played most of a season with a broken jaw. Larry Wilson intercepted a pass with two broken hands. The artificial turf of the 70s was described as like playing on concrete. The players wanted it more then modern players.
 
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I don't think more penalty flags is the answer.

If the players are fined severely for harmful actions, this might be the better way to go as it applies to motivation and might do a better job of controlling it.
 

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This is the era of just about literally "Instant" Replay/Review. They can see pretty much immediately if something is missed or someone was too violent. A simple buzz to the lead official and a word or two in his/her ear would solve many an issue.

As you alluded to, there isn't a need for more rules, just stricter enforcement of the existing ones.
 

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This is the era of just about literally "Instant" Replay/Review. They can see pretty much immediately if something is missed or someone was too violent. A simple buzz to the lead official and a word or two in his/her ear would solve many an issue.

As you alluded to, there isn't a need for more rules, just stricter enforcement of the existing ones.

This is the change I expect/hope for, not more officials on the field, but more tech enabled oversight to course correct within the game and keep the officials consistent with calls in game, between games and between officiating crews.
 
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This is the era of just about literally "Instant" Replay/Review. They can see pretty much immediately if something is missed or someone was too violent. A simple buzz to the lead official and a word or two in his/her ear would solve many an issue.

As you alluded to, there isn't a need for more rules, just stricter enforcement of the existing ones.
Good thought. Currently they can’t penalize based on overwatch.
 

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Injuries are addressed.

Over the public address system.

You’re welcome.
 

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more refs can’t be the answer. I believe they see all the penalties but elect to enforce them arbitrarily. They need to be consistent and eventually the players will be held accountable. I do like the idea of fines.
 

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Bring back two-a-days and more contact in training camp. Guys are coming into the season too soft now and it shows. Gotta build those calluses for the season.
 

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Flag football for everyone now? That is where DEI NFL is headed. They want teams to include women so NFL is inclusive, Also owners wont get sued by former players for injuries. Season is too long. People really want to see the Big Red play more games this year? Go back to 14 game season. Also players are too soft. They go on IR for pain and not injuries that players used to play through. I recall a season where Dan Dierdorf played most of a season with a broken jaw. Larry Wilson intercepted a pass with two broken hands. The artificial turf of the 70s was described as like playing on concrete. The players wanted it more then modern players.
What in the absolute hell are you talking about?
 

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Flag football for everyone now? That is where DEI NFL is headed. They want teams to include women so NFL is inclusive, Also owners wont get sued by former players for injuries. Season is too long. People really want to see the Big Red play more games this year? Go back to 14 game season. Also players are too soft. They go on IR for pain and not injuries that players used to play through. I recall a season where Dan Dierdorf played most of a season with a broken jaw. Larry Wilson intercepted a pass with two broken hands. The artificial turf of the 70s was described as like playing on concrete. The players wanted it more than modern players.
 

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I think a lot of these long injured lists wouldn't have been seen 30 years ago because medical care of NFL players HAS gotten better. Guys are not forced to play through injuries like they used to. I don't think the game is more violent, or doesn't have enough rules for player safety. I think it's less violent and rules are constantly being passed to increase player safety. Like outlawing the hip drop tackle a couple of years ago for one example
 

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Bring back two-a-days and more contact in training camp. Guys are coming into the season too soft now and it shows. Gotta build those calluses for the season.

I walk this very thought process at the start of every season. It doesn't help that the games are frequently pre season level weeks 1 and 2.

However, I am not sure that correlation is causality.

Another X factor is the size to speed ratios on the lines compared to 20 years ago.

I think the data point that is missing is how many of these injuries are soft tissue injuries compared to before? Soft tissue injuries caused by stress and sudden movements on ligaments and muscles?
 
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I think a lot of these long injured lists wouldn't have been seen 30 years ago because medical care of NFL players HAS gotten better. Guys are not forced to play through injuries like they used to. I don't think the game is more violent, or doesn't have enough rules for player safety. I think it's less violent and rules are constantly being passed to increase player safety. Like outlawing the hip drop tackle a couple of years ago for one example
I like the care part and the owners are protecting assets. It’s just the bigger, faster and stronger part is tough on the human body.
 

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- 16 game schedule. No Thursday night football. No stupid ass Black Friday football. Sunday football, one Monday night game. For the players best interest.
- Use tech to help suss out uncalled penalties and assign fines in arrears.
-Better trained refs. Call the rules the way they exist currently.
 

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The number of injuries that have crowded the IR list on numerous teams requires action by the NFL. I can’t recall a time when so many teams were so significantly impacted. A few years back the QB position injuries rose to an alarming rate. The NFL took action. There is no way to universally avoid injuries in a contact game; however, steps were taken to adjust penalties on QB hits. Now we seldom see an injury that takes a QB out for the season. I think the league and the refs need to take steps to protect other positions. It’s true no one wants a flag filled game. Year one of major changes will likely result in numerous flags at first as players test the level of enforcement. The NFL will undoubtedly have to send out numerous guideline memos to get the limitations of play clear.

I’ve asked around and part of the problem appears to be a lack of strict enforcement of existing rules. Crackback blocks are all too common. Chop blocks are often ignored as well. The latter tactic is a serious injury cause. We all have seen replays of facemask grab blocks among linemen that are missed as well as hands to the face calls. I’ve also seen tripping go uncalled. Some have suggested adding another Line Judge, moving the Down Judge slightly downfield. Another interesting idea was making it a penalty to leave your feet to block. You could still leave your feet when tackling, defending a pass or attempting to recover a fumble. This is a theoretical way to address targeting when simply blocking. With bigger, faster and stronger being the mantra of the NFL, something needs to happen to reduce player damage. Any ideas?
Ya have the players association agree to test for HGH… rampant in the NFL.
 

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Flag football for everyone now? That is where DEI NFL is headed. They want teams to include women so NFL is inclusive, Also owners wont get sued by former players for injuries. Season is too long. People really want to see the Big Red play more games this year? Go back to 14 game season. Also players are too soft. They go on IR for pain and not injuries that players used to play through. I recall a season where Dan Dierdorf played most of a season with a broken jaw. Larry Wilson intercepted a pass with two broken hands. The artificial turf of the 70s was described as like playing on concrete. The players wanted it more then modern players.
I’m not sure how the stats figure into this. However, the game is faster, the players are bigger and the NFL is greedier.
These guys are aske to play a more games and a more violent game than in the past. Games played off schedule.
They are playing Sunday and 4 days later asked to play on Thursday WAY to often. There is no way to recover in that short period of time.

And now we are going to see an 18 game schedule. Expanding rosters might help but it certainly would dilute talent. Perhaps 2 bye weeks would help.

I’m sure the NFL will do “ everything they can”. They can modify rules all they want. Many will cry it looks like “ flag football” if too many things change.
There were some on here ripping MHJ because it was just his appendix.

It’s todays NFL. Like it or not.
 

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I agree about the turf and the ridiculous schedule. end the thursday/friday games and install (good grass) or do something about the turf that probably cuts people's careers short from impact injuries. I can honestly see a time where they might install grass league wide, but I doubt they will ease their schedule because that is where their bread is buttered.

beyond that, enforce the penalties better (that already exist). they are way too inconsistent with the basic calls. I do think that the brutal hits on defenseless players and QB's has gotten better, but they can't get lax with enforcement.
 

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Bring back two-a-days and more contact in training camp. Guys are coming into the season too soft now and it shows. Gotta build those calluses for the season.
It's a catch-22 situation. The best way to physically attune a body to the rigors of playing football is to play football. But playing football is where the injuries occur.
 

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