Kyler Officially Done for Season!

[iLLmatiC]

I thought Gannon and Co were 100% behind Kyler when they got hired. Seemed to be drinking the Kyler Kool-Aid last year too. What happened between then and now? How did things sour so quickly?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Good luck at your next stop, Kyler.

Not from me (I'm kind of a **** when it comes to football).

He becomes the enemy as soon as he no longer wears our uniform, and I just wish we would get this last part over with as soon as possible.

 

[ajcardfan]

I thought Gannon and Co were 100% behind Kyler when they got hired. Seemed to be drinking the Kyler Kool-Aid last year too. What happened between then and now? How did things sour so quickly?

Like I just pointed out again, immediately after the Dallas game in the press conference Gannon still said Kyler is the guy. On Tuesday, he wasn't. Something happened in that 48 hours. What? We may never know.

 

[iLLmatiC]

Like I just pointed out again, immediately after the Dallas game in the press conference Gannon still said Kyler is the guy. On Tuesday, he wasn't. Something happened in that 48 hours. What? We may never know.

As previously mentioned, I'm curious why it soured.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Kyler Murray's career as a Cardinals QB:

Best in Cardinals History:

Completion % = 67.1
Quarterback rating = 92.2

Second in Cardinals History:
Completions = 1,974

Third in Cardinals History (Number one in Arizona History)
TDs = 121
Yards = 20,460

His career interceptions are 60. The only Cards QBs out of their top eight with fewer INTs are Palmer who had 57 and Warner who had 59. But Kyler had roughly 800 more passing attempts than either.

List of Arizona Cardinals starting quarterbacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Do with those numbers what you will. To me it looks more like a sad sack franchise than a sad sack QB dragging a team down.

Those stats certify what we’ve always known about Kyler.
Important to keep in context the level of putridness of this franchise. Being at the top of a Cards stat leaderboard means about as much as a ticket to a home game…

Kyler’s physical abilities alone got him to those statistical levels… and yet, it’s what’s missing between his ears and in his chest that has led to his failures.

Kyler’s selection as a #1 was completely misguided and set the stage for an historically ugly, frustrating and disappointing period in Cardinals history… which is seriously saying something.

 

[Phrazbit]

When the going gets tough… quit.

We saw it in the playoffs against the Rams, we’ve seen it again.

Sucks too… if he had put together a run of mediocre play we probably could’ve gotten some compensation for him, but after this debacle we’re not getting squat.

Poorly handled by everyone involved.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

As previously mentioned, I'm curious why it soured.

when gannon said brissett would start whether kyler was healthy or not - there was no coming back from that

 

[DVontel]

Not from me (I'm kind of a **** when it comes to football).

He becomes the enemy as soon as he no longer wears our uniform, and I just wish we would get this last part over with as soon as possible.

Meh.

I made the mistake of rooting against the Honey Badger & Peterson when they left here on bad terms, when in actuality, I should’ve rooted for them because they got away from this unfortunate franchise.

 

[Phrazbit]

when gannon said brissett would start whether kyler was healthy or not - there was no coming back from that

I think it was earlier. When he practiced with the backups and the chatter was that he was going to be active, but brisket was going to start… poof, the next morning he’s on the IR.

Imo, he shut himself down right then.

 

[Mr X]

Not bad stats but he ranks behind Plummer, Warner, Palmer for me.

 

[Dback Jon]

This is the organization thinking the system works instead of figuring out a system to work with the personnel

And for that alone, they should be fired.

Putz's system is geared more towards a traditional drop back QB. Criminal to try to use that with Kyler.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Hey, after 30+ years, I'm still sober...

Nothing to see here..

Carry on

 

[Shane]

And for that alone, they should be fired.

Putz's system is geared more towards a traditional drop back QB. Criminal to try to use that with Kyler.

The previous guys system was designed specifically for Kyler and he still failed miserably…. Well under performing what an overall number one pick with his hype should accomplish..

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

The previous guy system was designed specifically for Kyler and he still failed miserably…. Well under performing what an overall number one pick with his hype should accomplish..

Once puss mode engaged...it was over

 

[Mulli]

The previous guy system was designed specifically for Kyler and he still failed miserably…. Well under performing what an overall number one pick with his hype should accomplish..

With a crap supporting cast because franchise is butt

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

The previous guys system was designed specifically for Kyler and he still failed miserably…. Well under performing what an overall number one pick with his hype should accomplish..

"calm the f*** down" lol amirite

 

[football karma]

As reported back in week 1, they wanted a mutual parting of ways.

maybe its just me but this is so obvious

is he hurt? -- sure at some level.

IF the Cards were in the playoff hunt and felt good about Kyler being the guy -- I suspect he would have played the last two weeks (at least).

But:

he doesnt want the embarrassment of losing his job

the team wants to preserve whatever trade value exists



the last thing either party needs is him tearing an ACL in a now meaningless game

 

[Dback Jon]

The previous guys system was designed specifically for Kyler and he still failed miserably…. Well under performing what an overall number one pick with his hype should accomplish..

KK's system worked when Kliff got out of his own way - and didn't try to get too cute.

We did make the playoffs, and KM was for most of one season a Legit MVP candidate.

 

[DaHilg]

In watching the JB to Michael Wilson success, it is obvious that his size limits him on short drop quick throws in the pocket. As someone wise said, we need the best of both KM and JB. His size will always hold him back from his athletic potential.

Or just don’t make him a pocket QB.. mystery will always be for me if we would have designed an offense for him with a creative veteran OC.. not Kliffs air raid offense and not P Guy’s Cleveland Browns offense

 

[HairZach]

KK's system worked when Kliff got out of his own way - and didn't try to get too cute.

We did make the playoffs, and KM was for most of one season a Legit MVP candidate.

Kliffs system worked until every defense in the league started running 5 to 6 DBs as their base defense and dared Kyler to throw over the middle.

 

[DaHilg]

KK's system worked when Kliff got out of his own way - and didn't try to get too cute.

We did make the playoffs, and KM was for most of one season a Legit MVP candidate.

And this offense was NOT designed for Kyler… it was what Kliffy brought from the TT. Literally was the same offense. I think Shane is getting confused of tailor made to Kliff touting it as a tailored fit for Kyler. Big difference, the first would mean it was an offense custom designed for Kyler.. of which it wasn’t and proved to ultimately to be a bad fit.

 

[Stout]

Kyler is refusing to play?

His last play is a football to the face lol

That is an accurate symbol of his time here. Clown show.

 

[Stout]

What Gannon did to ensure he didnt come back this season

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Ooh, the book scene was way worse.

 

[PitchShifter]

I think it was earlier. When he practiced with the backups and the chatter was that he was going to be active, but brisket was going to start… poof, the next morning he’s on the IR.

Imo, he shut himself down right then.

I'm also curious about the back story.

Wasn't the first hint when Murray was asked about the new training facility and he answered "If I am here to see it" in 2027. I thought it was an odd statement at the time and I reckon there was already stuff going on behind the scenes then. Was he still the QB at that time?

 

[Stout]

Kyler Murray's career as a Cardinals QB:

Best in Cardinals History:

Completion % = 67.1
Quarterback rating = 92.2

Second in Cardinals History:
Completions = 1,974

Third in Cardinals History (Number one in Arizona History)
TDs = 121
Yards = 20,460

His career interceptions are 60. The only Cards QBs out of their top eight with fewer INTs are Palmer who had 57 and Warner who had 59. But Kyler had roughly 800 more passing attempts than either.

List of Arizona Cardinals starting quarterbacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Do with those numbers what you will. To me it looks more like a sad sack franchise than a sad sack QB dragging a team down.

Remember, numbers in themselves are irrelevant. The Kyler stans remind the board all the time when Jacoby has good numbers.