Kyler Murray Stat Line

[THESMEL]

A healthy run game would improve everything, enough I don’t know - defense couldn’t stop a nose from running

 

[SoonerLou]

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He broke free from a couple of sacks last game. Obviously had 2 that were self inflicted.

I think if he just starts throwing the ball away and starts maybe being stronger on some of these would be sacks it would help.

Its risky obviously, but he's shown a few instances of getting away from defenders when not just giving up.

 

[SoonerLou]

Are teams going to force us to dink and dunk the rest of the way or way force teams to adjust.

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[Arz101]

Are teams going to force us to dink and dunk the rest of the way or way force teams to adjust.

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No Risk it No Biscuit

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[Jetstream Green]

Wilson is not doing a jersey swap with a guy if he did not respect him... and this was posted by Wilson on his own

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[TheCardFan]

Are teams going to force us to dink and dunk the rest of the way or way force teams to adjust.

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Exactly.

NFL defenses adjust and K1/K2 have to figure out how to beat them.

We are fine if we have long drives that tire out the defense and we score a TD. The problem has been we are kicking/missing FG's vs TD's. That is the story of the first 4 games.

Once we can finish, we will be in a much better spot on offense.

 

[Garthshort]

How does Kyler's first four games compare to Russel Wilson's (similar size) first four games?

 

[kerouac9]

How does Kyler's first four games compare to Russel Wilson's (similar size) first four games?

Different situation. Wilson was asked to make 2-3 plays a game on a team with a playoff-caliber defense and elite running game and offensive line.

Murray has better counting stats, but Wilson had won some games by now.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Schlereth said it right during the game. If Murray's first option is not open, he looks at the pass rush. He needs to fix that.

 

[SoonerLou]

Different situation. Wilson was asked to make 2-3 plays a game on a team with a playoff-caliber defense and elite running game and offensive line.

Murray has better counting stats, but Wilson had won some games by now.

To be fair he should have lost that Packers game, lol.

 

[Chopper0080]

Are teams going to force us to dink and dunk the rest of the way or way force teams to adjust.

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What is funny is that most people view the average depth of target as a very negative stat. It can be, but in our context it really isn't. The last two teams we have played have kept their S's back and dared us to consistently execute down the field. Teams are saying that the Cardinals are incapable of playing mistake free football and for the past two games, they are correct. If Kyler can stay accurate, ahead of the chains, and keep the offense out of negative plays, you will see defenses force the issue more.

This is why Kingsbury seems frustrated. He sees that defenses are giving easy completions and soft coverage but the offense is just not executing. It isn't so dissimilar to what the Patriots do. They throw underneath until teams try to force the issue and then they throw the ball over the top.

 

[kerouac9]

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb/2019

The two worst starting QBs in the NFL are...

Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen.

Rosen is significantly worse than Murray by DVOA. Murray needs to get better on third down. Right now he's third-to-last in ALEX, which is how short of the sticks you're throwing on third down. For whatever reason, Rosen leads the league in this metric.

 

[GatorAZ]

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb/2019

The two worst starting QBs in the NFL are...

Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen.

Rosen is significantly worse than Murray by DVOA. Murray needs to get better on third down. Right now he's third-to-last in ALEX, which is how short of the sticks you're throwing on third down. For whatever reason, Rosen leads the league in this metric.

Looks like Dak is getting his 40 mil.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Kent with the subtle dig in Murray's height...

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Absence of wins could be stunting Kyler Murray's growth as a leader for the Cardinals https://t.co/wBk26U7eRW via @azcentral

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[Dr. Jones]

What is funny is that most people view the average depth of target as a very negative stat. It can be, but in our context it really isn't. The last two teams we have played have kept their S's back and dared us to consistently execute down the field. Teams are saying that the Cardinals are incapable of playing mistake free football and for the past two games, they are correct. If Kyler can stay accurate, ahead of the chains, and keep the offense out of negative plays, you will see defenses force the issue more.

This is why Kingsbury seems frustrated. He sees that defenses are giving easy completions and soft coverage but the offense is just not executing. It isn't so dissimilar to what the Patriots do. They throw underneath until teams try to force the issue and then they throw the ball over the top.

This is exactly what was said on the Card's Underground podcast by Urban, Odegard, & Calvisi. Almost verbatim.

 

[Dr. Jones]

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb/2019

The two worst starting QBs in the NFL are...

Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen.

Rosen is significantly worse than Murray by DVOA. Murray needs to get better on third down. Right now he's third-to-last in ALEX, which is how short of the sticks you're throwing on third down. For whatever reason, Rosen leads the league in this metric.

Pat Mahomes is like the cheat code in the game John Elway's Quarterback. Unbelievable man.

And I do agree that 3rd downs are killing us. Holding, False Starts, Sacks, 3rd down conversions. All Offensive line related with a bit of QB skittishness.

I am comforted by his Effective Yards stats which place him near the middle of all QB's. ALEX would indicate that we are usually in 3rd and long situations with a defense allowing the short pass while stacking up defenders across the line to gain.

He still has a long way to go.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is exactly what was said on the Card's Underground podcast by Urban, Odegard, & Calvisi. Almost verbatim.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[Chopper0080]

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Kyler will need to learn that he can't always play the NFL game on his terms. Sometimes the opposing team and the matchups they present will dictate what he needs to do to win. Even if it is something he doesn't like to do. He mentioned in his post game interview last week how the defense being played the last two weeks has made him play boring (or something to that nature).

 

[kerouac9]

It's interesting that we're not running 1-2 designed shot plays a quarter to loosen up the defense. I don't know if Kingsbury isn't calling them, Murray is checking out of them, or Murray is taking the checkdown to get a completion.

 

[TJ]

It's interesting that we're not running 1-2 designed shot plays a quarter to loosen up the defense. I don't know if Kingsbury isn't calling them, Murray is checking out of them, or Murray is taking the checkdown to get a completion.

Yep. Even if you only complete 25% of those passes, at least you’re keeping defenses honest. This is why we have a guy like Andy Isabella on this team

 

[kerouac9]

Yep. Even if you only complete 25% of those passes, at least you’re keeping defenses honest. This is why we have a guy like Andy Isabella on this team

It doesn't (just) have to be speed. You can run a three-receiver combination that should free up one guy in single coverage. That's what the air raid is all about — creating 1:1 matchups down the field.

 

[Broseph]

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb/2019

The two worst starting QBs in the NFL are...

Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen.

Rosen is significantly worse than Murray by DVOA. Murray needs to get better on third down. Right now he's third-to-last in ALEX, which is how short of the sticks you're throwing on third down. For whatever reason, Rosen leads the league in this metric.

What a buzz kill

 

[Dr. Jones]

It's interesting that we're not running 1-2 designed shot plays a quarter to loosen up the defense. I don't know if Kingsbury isn't calling them, Murray is checking out of them, or Murray is taking the checkdown to get a completion.

Yep. Even if you only complete 25% of those passes, at least you’re keeping defenses honest. This is why we have a guy like Andy Isabella on this team

It doesn't (just) have to be speed. You can run a three-receiver combination that should free up one guy in single coverage. That's what the air raid is all about — creating 1:1 matchups down the field.

Totally agree. Byrd, Andy, Sherfield, Kirk, etc...... Have to threaten it a bit IMO. We have the horses, even if they don't catch it. DPI could help us just the same.

 

[Jetstream Green]

There was once this Heisman trophy winner noted for his scrambling ability and had a rough first year as a pro but turned out to be a great QB... if the freaking Cowboys have their Roger Staubach, this Cardinal fan is going to embrace senor Squeak and give him a chance