kicking the field goal

[Goldfield]

Originally posted by pinnacle
I wanted to point out that the biggest error on this drive was burning our last time out..we called it because time ran out on the play clock..we should have just taken the delay of game (game clock was stopped - I think the receiver went out of bounds - but the play clock was the problem)...it would have moved us back 5 yards - no big deal...it was immaterial as far as field goal position - like the 8 of 13 yard line (I think we were on about the 8 or so and we would have gone back to the 13)..and we could have run a play that was a shorter pass and see if the receiver or back could run into the end zone...but..we could have tried a few more things as we still would have had the time out left - but after we blew the time out to avoid the delay of game - pretty much had to take shots at the end zone only..the 5 yards may have actually helped in strange way - more ground for the dbacks to cover..by burning the time out to avoid a 5 yard penalty - it cost us one play ..at least..

I said the same thing about the timeout.

You have a good point about the delay of game. We needed the timeout more than the 5 yards.

 

[Goldfield]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
I disagreed with the call pretty strongly and I still do. It worked out, but I don't like to play scared. Here's why I think you run one more play:

1. How many opportunities will you get to score TDs? Can you really expect our D to hold down Favre as well as they did in the second half. When you are at the two yard line, run a play. At the twelve, kick it.

2. You've got a vet QB, plenty smart enough to toss it into the crowd if it's not open instantly.

I think Dave dodged a bullet with this one. Do you know how ugly it would've been for him had we lost by 3 or 4 points?

look, I understand how you feel. I felt the same way at first.

But you have to be carefull in the NFL, one sack would of destroyed any good that came from that nice drive.

Go into halftime tied and be pissed we didnt have that LAST timeout we burned.

 

[Assface]

Originally posted by Shane H
Youcan say that now that we won. Thats called hindsight!

At the time it was foresight....

 

[spanky]

Originally posted by Chopper0080
I actually coach football, so I will put in my two cents.

It was the right decision because it was the first half. If I am a 0-2 playing the Green Bay Frickin Packers with Mr. Brett Farve at QB, I kick the field goal and go into halftime tied at 10. Yes it is not a gutsy call, but to be able to go into halftime tied with a team associated with winning and the playoffs is a very big motivator.

The one thing many people forget is that the best thing you can do heading into halftime is make a positive play. It builds momentum and confidence over the time in the lockerroom and can set the tone for the first couple plays in the third quarter. If the Cardinals go for it and come away with no points what do you say?

You can't turn away the chance for sure points against a winning team especially when you are at home and have that working for you (maybe not as applicable in SDS). If we are on the road it is a much tougher call, but I generally like taking points especially in the first half to tie the game. If it was at the end of the game, you play for the win, but in the first half you have to tie the game.

Tough call to make but it was the right one.

You make a good point about going into the locker room with positive vibrations.........especially in light of the fact that GB were kicking off to us to start the 3rd quarter. Origionally I thought that it was a poor coaching decision........it actually might have been the best call, albeit , the conservative one.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
I could not agree more. You run two slants and if they arent there you sail the ball into the 3rd row. It was not the 'right' call by any standards I have ever heard of.

They had plenty of time to take the shot and still kick a FG if nothing was there. It shows a lack of confidence in the QB/WR's if you ask me and is bad coaching!!

I think someone else hit the nail on the head, all it takes is a holding call and the half is over.I was saying go for it too but I do see why Mac didn't.

 

[schutd]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
They should be well beyond feeling that a botched snap or fumble will happen between the center and QB-That is BS. Hey it worked out and all, but it was a dumb move. They had plenty of time, from the gun to pass into the endzone and still have 3-4 seconds to kick the FG.

I cant believe an NFL coach is really that concerned about the center-to-QB exchange!!! That doesnt show much for the team in my opinion.

Ironic that the two guys both wanting to gamble on a pass to the endzone are both from Vegas!

I say under 10 seconds on the clock, you can't question the decision. You can respectfully disagree, but to call it chickensh*t is over the line.

OVER 10 seconds, and we can all call a spade a spade.

Great win. Never been happier to be wrong about a prediction.

 

[john h]

Originally posted by Shane H
With 8 seconds left from the 3 on second down is as chicken **** coahing as it gets!

They should have used one more play to try and punch it in PERIOD! If they missed there would have been plenty of time for a FG!

In hindsight the play was the correct call because who kows what might have happened. You may not get the FG as time runs out and the players become demoralized and the game could have turned. At the time it was really a tough decision. You could have had an interception, ran the clock out. We won so it must have been right.

 

[red desert]

Originally posted by Shane H
Youcan say that now that we won. Thats called hindsight! You cant play scared and that was chickenchit coaching!

Yup.

 

[Chopper0080]

Russ really did hit the nail on the head.

All it takes is for someone to catch a ball inbounds, we take a sack, get a penalty (run off 10 seconds), throw a pick, or scramble around for 8 sec avoiding the sack to lose all the momentum that the Cardinals had built up during that last drive. There are so many things that have gone wrong for this team in the past weeks and we were not playing a spectacular game (good yes, but not dominant). Why on earth do risk something bad happening when you are a team that bad things happen to? Take the safe points to tie when you are assured of them and see what happens in the second half.

-If Mac runs one more play and it fails, good lord, where are we then. Just some additional food for thought.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by Chopper0080
Russ really did hit the nail on the head.

All it takes is for someone to catch a ball inbounds, we take a sack, get a penalty (run off 10 seconds), throw a pick, or scramble around for 8 sec avoiding the sack to lose all the momentum that the Cardinals had built up during that last drive. There are so many things that have gone wrong for this team in the past weeks and we were not playing a spectacular game (good yes, but not dominant). Why on earth do risk something bad happening when you are a team that bad things happen to? Take the safe points to tie when you are assured of them and see what happens in the second half.

-If Mac runs one more play and it fails, good lord, where are we then. Just some additional food for thought.

word !!!

 

[Chopper0080]

Tangodnzr.............did we just agree?






Wierd.

 

[JeffGollin]

Who cares 8 seconds is plenty of time to run one pass play!
Bitter experience taught Mac that officials have been known to steal seconds off the clock.

Mac was gun-shy about running the play, not making it and then not getting the FG off. As he put it (in so many words):

"The mindset of our young players was too fragile to risk going in at halftime with no points from the drive.