Kareem Hunt caught on video assaulting 19 year old woman

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  1. MigratingOsprey

    MigratingOsprey Thank You Paul!

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    No way to distinguish if that was a hypothetical or your recounting of events

    Why would you use a hypothetical that is so far away from the verifiable fact set?

    It's meaningless for any discussion at that point.

    What if a women came in with a gun to rob an elderly person standing next to me? If I tackle her I lose my job for hitting a woman? This world has gone nuts!!!!!
     
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    MigratingOsprey Thank You Paul!

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    This stuff isn't difficult.

    You are in a hotel. You simply shut and lock your door and go on with your night.

    If someone is a problem call the desk and call the police.

    Then just go about what you were doing.

    People put pride and ego in front of basic sense.

    Everyone else in that hallway knew he was messing up. Everyone was trying to protect him - except himself.

    He just had to go and confront a 19 year old girl that he doesn't even know.

    Why give her any power? Even if she did say something, why would you care? Go back to your small social gathering and sleep on your pillowcase of cash and enjoy a life of NFL superstar adjulation.

    This is easy stuff. Just basics for anyone.
     
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    Why are you trying so hard to dismiss or not understand my point? Yes, it was a hotel room and not an apartment. Is that really germane? You seem very intent on not having a conversation and just attempting insults. Care to say why?

    There were no charges filed. The woman was obviously violent. Her friends were already recording video when Hunt walked out of the room. Does nothing about the situation warrant consideration?
     
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    Not every person has an analytic, clinical view of a situation in the moment. Is it possible that Hunt was trying to defuse the situation and avoid having the police show up at a party where he was attending? That despite his best intentions he found himself being threatened, spit on and called a *igger and he then lost his temper? That he just wanted to calm the girl down and get her to leave without having to call the police?

    Have you ever been in a situation where something escalates far more quickly than you would have imagined?
     
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    Your hypothetical is about as germaine as my robbery hypothetical

    She was in a hotel hallway. If there was trespassing it would be against the property owner - the hotel.

    She didn't hit the hotel and the hotel didn't kick her.

    When you go so far off the rails at the very beginning it's pointless.

    If you really want discussion either address the known facts or learn to make a hypothetical or to pose questions of additional circumstance

    You didn't come close to either of those, which does nothing to advance the actual topic of what actually happened
     
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    Maybe she pooped in his shoe. That would make me angry. Burned the last good photo of his mother. Said his dog wasn't cute.

    Or you could actually comment on what we know happened.

    There was zero reason for him to open his door and put himself in a position for him to not be able to control himself.

    Again, this is very simple stuff.
     
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    Anyhow, I'm shutting my proverbial hotel door and going to bed.

    Can pick this up later if I still find it interesting.

    Have a good night
     
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    See, you seem to deliberately trying to be obtuse. I apologize that I don't know the actual legal term for being thrown out of a party and then wanting to get back in, then refusing to leave. Is there some debate about that being what was actually going on? Would you rather argue semantics than talk about the situation?

    Why do you think that the hotel hitting and kicking her has anything to do with anything? You're making up ridiculous examples for some reason. Do you honestly not understand what I'm saying or are you just being disingenuous?
     
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    I can only assume you've never attended a party. Calling the police isn't the only reasonable response. It seems perfectly reasonable to imagine that he wasn't directly involved with what went on inside and he was coming out to try and make peace and defuse the situation. Even moreso if he was the host of the party.
     
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    For whatever it's worth:
     
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    As soon as I read the Chiefs sent Hunt home I grabbed Ware off of waivers and started him. No way the Chiefs are going to change their offense since Ware knows it well. They are also playing the Raiders. I expect Ware to run for a minimum of 80 yds. and 2 TDs.
     
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    It’s stupid to grade woman-assault incidents. Anytime a man attacks a woman, it’s wrong. Period.
    Yes, Hunt didn’t knock this lady out as Rice did. But he came close when he shoved the guy and her and knocked her into the wall and she smashed her face into the wall... and then kicked her when she was down...
    And then lied about it all... All that said,, I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see him playing in the NFL one day down the road.
     
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    Im not grading im comparing, and are 2 different stories, i saw a man shoving another man and making domino effect on the lady
    When she was on the ground the kick was weak and that s why she even didnt report it to the policeman
    From the video is pretty clear that he was trying to discuss with her but the girl assaulted him
    its an exaggeration to release him
    Certainly he made a mistake and he deserve some sanctions but being released...
    We saw players keep playing after more alarming behaviour
     
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