Jalen Green 'Preciation Thread

[Carolinacacti]

Ish said run it back. pretty sure that meant Book, Green, Dillon and the three they resigned. Green has been working out. If I had his money and girl friend, the gym would be outa sight

 

[Hoop Head]

Chicago for sure is a good match. They don't have a primary scorer to build around. They just drafted a young guy who could be that in Caleb Wilson, and they signed Norman Powell. Supposedly, they want to move Josh Giddey so they can get Coby White back in the lineup as a more athletic PG, as they are trying to build a team that is high flying and athletically oriented.

So, a Green for Giddey type of trade would work well for both teams. The Suns need a floor leader who can play a more half court oriented game, and the Bulls are moving towards a more explosive profile lineup. Plus, the contracts also line up nearly perfectly.

Chicago traded Coby White to Charlotte last season.

 

[GatorAZ]

Chicago for sure is a good match. They don't have a primary scorer to build around. They just drafted a young guy who could be that in Caleb Wilson, and they signed Norman Powell. Supposedly, they want to move Josh Giddey so they can get Coby White back in the lineup as a more athletic PG, as they are trying to build a team that is high flying and athletically oriented.

So, a Green for Giddey type of trade would work well for both teams. The Suns need a floor leader who can play a more half court oriented game, and the Bulls are moving towards a more explosive profile lineup. Plus, the contracts also line up nearly perfectly.

Giddey is more efficient and far better passer/rebounder. But then again it’s the Bulls so they might as well call and try.

 

[Yuma]

For the 2026-27 season, Josh Giddey is making a base salary of $25,000,000 on his current deal, while Jalen Green is earning $36,000,000.

Jalen Green: Signed a 3-year, $105,333,333 rookie extension with the Houston Rockets (now with the Phoenix Suns), which is fully guaranteed

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[Adrian]

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[JCSunsfan]

The problem with Jalen Green is not Jalen Green. It’s the Green/Booker pairing.

 

[taz02]

The problem with Jalen Green is not Jalen Green. It’s the Green/Booker pairing.

We'll have to see if they can both stay healthy.

It may work, if we can defend the paint and rebound. Jalen can hit big shots, something we have sorely lacked in a number of playoffs.

The lineup of Brooks, Williams, Booker and Green really never had a chance to gel with all of the injuries.

 

[Yuma]

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Reminds me of that song with the lyrics, "Things that make you go hmmm."

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Reminds me of that song with the lyrics, "Things that make you go hmmm."

jalen green is a scoring machine - but i'd love to see how many shot attempts everyone took

 

[Hoop Head]

jalen green is a scoring machine - but i'd love to see how many shot attempts everyone took

They don't list total attempts on BBRef but he ranks #38 in FG% from that draft at 42.2% and 25 in 3pt% at 33.9%. Neither is worth his salary and he'll need to improve a good bit of he wants an extension

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2021.html.

 

[Yuma]

They don't list total attempts on BBRef but he ranks #38 in FG% from that draft at 42.2% and 25 in 3pt% at 33.9%. Neither is worth his salary and he'll need to improve a good bit of he wants an extension

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2021.html.

Also, you can't compare shooting percentage of a guard to a big man like Senguin. They don't compare.

 

[Hoop Head]

Also, you can't compare shooting percentage of a guard to a big man like Senguin. They don't compare.

Same for role as comparing a starter like Green to an end of the bench guy like a Koby Brea doesn't tell the proper story.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

They don't list total attempts on BBRef but he ranks #38 in FG% from that draft at 42.2% and 25 in 3pt% at 33.9%. Neither is worth his salary and he'll need to improve a good bit of he wants an extension

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2021.html.

that what i was thinking - homie takes a lot of shots but he'll get extended regardless

 

[Hoop Head]

that what i was thinking - homie takes a lot of shots but he'll get extended regardless

Depends on the money. I really hope they don't give him a max extension. He's eligible to sign a 4 year $240 million dollar deal in October, the anniversary of his last contract. The first year would be $50.7m with 8% raises, ending at $66m. He's not worth that.

If we can retain him somewhere around $25-30 million then I'd be fine with that. It wouldn't cripple us if he does improve and should be traceable, especially if there are player options or non guaranteed salary.

People can say what they want about Book and his salary but I don't think anyone would argue Green is worth the same money as him annually.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Depends on the money. I really hope they don't give him a max extension. He's eligible to sign a 4 year $240 million dollar deal in October, the anniversary of his last contract. The first year would be $50.7m with 8% raises, ending at $66m. He's not worth that.

If we can retain him somewhere around $25-30 million then I'd be fine with that. It wouldn't cripple us if he does improve and should be traceable, especially if there are player options or non guaranteed salary.

People can say what they want about Book and his salary but I don't think anyone would argue Green is worth the same money as him

I can’t imagine they are even considering a max extension. Right now they are still trying to determine if they want him on this team.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Depends on the money. I really hope they don't give him a max extension. He's eligible to sign a 4 year $240 million dollar deal in October, the anniversary of his last contract. The first year would be $50.7m with 8% raises, ending at $66m. He's not worth that.

If we can retain him somewhere around $25-30 million then I'd be fine with that. It wouldn't cripple us if he does improve and should be traceable, especially if there are player options or non guaranteed salary.

People can say what they want about Book and his salary but I don't think anyone would argue Green is worth the same money as him annually.

I really feel like the NBA is changing dramatically with the current CBA and players such as Green are going to have to start getting their big paydays AFTER they've developed. The risk betting on a player to hit their potential is no longer worth it, IMO.

I've said it a few times but I really believe teams will now be better off with a pretty good guard making 20 or 30 per than a very good guard making 50 or more. And that applies to the other positions too. Save the big checks for the very rare players that can carry teams.

 

[Yuma]

I really feel like the NBA is changing dramatically with the current CBA and players such as Green are going to have to start getting their big paydays AFTER they've developed. The risk betting on a player to hit their potential is no longer worth it, IMO.

I've said it a few times but I really believe teams will now be better off with a pretty good guard making 20 or 30 per than a very good guard making 50 or more. And that applies to the other positions too. Save the big checks for the very rare players that can carry teams.

If Luka couldn't get the max from Dallas, it really makes you wonder. He was arguably one of those guys you would pay, and yet Dallas really thought about it hard, and said no.

 

[leclerc]

Plus it is Luka sitting there. Probably not the most likeable character to pay a kings ransom.

 

[Mainstreet]

I really feel like the NBA is changing dramatically with the current CBA and players such as Green are going to have to start getting their big paydays AFTER they've developed. The risk betting on a player to hit their potential is no longer worth it, IMO.

I've said it a few times but I really believe teams will now be better off with a pretty good guard making 20 or 30 per than a very good guard making 50 or more. And that applies to the other positions too. Save the big checks for the very rare players that can carry teams.

Don't tell the Wizards about that. They just signed Trae Young to that huge contract extension.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Don't tell the Wizards about that. They just signed Trae Young to that huge contract extension.

The Wizards do that. How else do you get anyone to stay and play in that God-forsaken town?

 

[Raindog]

The Wizards do that. How else do you get anyone to stay and play in that God-forsaken town?

It's sad. The (old) Bullets were one of the marquee franchises when I first started following the league as a kid. Now it's going on almost 50 years of them being a punchline.

As a sidebar, I know "Bullets'" probably wasn't the most ideal team identity ever, but changing it to "Wizards" and then adopting that possibly lamest ever logo sure didn't help.

 

[Hoop Head]

It's sad. The (old) Bullets were one of the marquee franchises when I first started following the league as a kid. Now it's going on almost 50 years of them being a punchline.

As a sidebar, I know "Bullets'" probably wasn't the most ideal team identity ever, but changing it to "Wizards" and then adopting that possibly lamest ever logo sure didn't help.

They have had short runs like when they had Arenas, Larry Hughes, and Antwaun Jamison. Then again briefly with Wall and Beal. They cant stay healthy and they just added 2 chronic injury cases in Trae Young and Anthony Davis. Sarr and Dybantas should be a good pair but I can't see them staying in Washington.

I can't believe we're almost 30 years of the Wizards now, changing in 97.

I thought they changed it after/in response to the DC Sniper but that was 2002. The other finalists were actually worse than the Wizards. They were the Dragons, Express, Stallions, and Sea Dogs. Had the Internet been bigger at the time then I'd believe it was a troll campaign to get 5 awful names. Even MJ couldn't make the Wizards moniker cool though, which says something.

https://www.espn.com/page2/wash/s/closer/020316.html

 

[leclerc]

Fast as a bullet. It can allude to more than shooting people, but I get it. Sensitivity. Redskins was a cool name and logo as well.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

jalen green is a bucket getting machine - a one man barrage - if the step back 3 is on you can forgetaboutit - might as well get out of the way and watch because if they try to prevent the step back 3 they get burned with the quickness

when he rains he pours - the crowd wakes up - our defense gets pumped - jalen green can take over the building

but when he's off - oof - and he keeps shooting - oh man - he doesn't just keep shooting he takes some pretty wild shots - while being covered - while his teammates are open

that's what it all comes down to - his value on the court is damn near bipolar - when he's off the team doesn't score - the crowd doesn't get lit and the defense struggles

this is what has limited his value - all the potential hasn't matured into team basketball - and the suns offense is all about team basketball

our offense lost it's way with the losses of brooks and williams while adding the dynamite that is jalen green - our balance and chemistry went to ish

instead of asking jalen to play team ball we leaned on him - let him shoot at will - when he shoots that much others can't get into their shooting rhythms

i was scared he'd get traded - and that we wouldn't get enough for him because despite all i typed the kid is genuinely special

if jalen is staying book needs to take him under his half a billion dollar wing and explain some things - mentor him - let jalen know how book got where he is (and to the olympics) - by playing team basketball

jalen doesn't have to turn into point-jalen or anything like that but he does have to become more of a perfectionist - and pass the ball when the high percentage field goal attempt isn't there because because the circus shots gotta freakin go

i don't mind his defense - not the best but he creates steals he doesn't get credited for - hopefully he'll have some defensive help in the paint this year - same goes for book and gillespie - if they're gambling out on the perimeter they need the help

idk tho - some nights are just going to be the jalen green show and that's not a bad thing at all - i love those nights - but if he learns how to be a better teammate when it isn't his night - that's what i'm talking about

 

[95pro]

jalen green is a bucket getting machine - a one man barrage - if the step back 3 is on you can forgetaboutit - might as well get out of the way and watch because if they try to prevent the step back 3 they get burned with the quickness

when he rains he pours - the crowd wakes up - our defense gets pumped - jalen green can take over the building

but when he's off - oof - and he keeps shooting - oh man - he doesn't just keep shooting he takes some pretty wild shots - while being covered - while his teammates are open

that's what it all comes down to - his value on the court is damn near bipolar - when he's off the team doesn't score - the crowd doesn't get lit and the defense struggles

this is what has limited his value - all the potential hasn't matured into team basketball - and the suns offense is all about team basketball

our offense lost it's way with the losses of brooks and williams while adding the dynamite that is jalen green - our balance and chemistry went to ish

instead of asking jalen to play team ball we leaned on him - let him shoot at will - when he shoots that much others can't get into their shooting rhythms

i was scared he'd get traded - and that we wouldn't get enough for him because despite all i typed the kid is genuinely special

if jalen is staying book needs to take him under his half a billion dollar wing and explain some things - mentor him - let jalen know how book got where he is (and to the olympics) - by playing team basketball

jalen doesn't have to turn into point-jalen or anything like that but he does have to become more of a perfectionist - and pass the ball when the high percentage field goal attempt isn't there because because the circus shots gotta freakin go

i don't mind his defense - not the best but he creates steals he doesn't get credited for - hopefully he'll have some defensive help in the paint this year - same goes for book and gillespie - if they're gambling out on the perimeter they need the help

idk tho - some nights are just going to be the jalen green show and that's not a bad thing at all - i love those nights - but if he learns how to be a better teammate when it isn't his night - that's what i'm talking about

wym he's a great teammate. He just needs to create more and shoot less, which is playing within the flow of the game instead of forcing up shots.