Red Bird
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Top 3? Top 5? Top 10 or beyond?
Of guys I remember/saw play:
1. Rice - incredibly lucky but still the GOAT
2. Moss - “wrecked the league”
3. T.O. - grading strictly on ability/production although he was a horse’s ***
4. Fitz - incredibly longevity and playoff production
5. Carter - less of a downfield threat than Fitz so I’ll put him below
6. Calvin - if you wanted to put him higher based on pure peak I wouldn’t argue
*probably missing someone obvious*
Can’t sit here and say Moss being that high is ok and complain about Patrick Peterson not being physical.
Moss flat out refused to go over the middle, block or support the run game. Hell he flat out quit and just stopped trying at points of his career.
talent wise Moss is as good as they come but he didn’t put in the work Rice, Fitz or T.O did.
I have Fitz 2nd.
Rice - Best Ever.
Fitz - #2
Moss - This is subjective IMO but Fitz did more.
If he gets to #1 in catches (2 more years), he is clearly over Moss IMO.
#2 all time in receiving yards.
Only he and Rice have 11 Pro Bowls.
The Consecutive games with a catch streak. #2 now and may break it in 2021.
And to me..... He is the most clutch postseason WR of all time. This has weight to me and was proven over multiple playoff runs. Again though, only he or rice can lay claim to this.
And then you get into drop rate.
And his tackles versus drops stats.
How can Moss or TO be above all of that?
More All-Pros while having higher peaks.I have Fitz 2nd.
Rice - Best Ever.
Fitz - #2
Moss - This is subjective IMO but Fitz did more.
If he gets to #1 in catches (2 more years), he is clearly over Moss IMO.
#2 all time in receiving yards.
Only he and Rice have 11 Pro Bowls.
The Consecutive games with a catch streak. #2 now and may break it in 2021.
And to me..... He is the most clutch postseason WR of all time. This has weight to me and was proven over multiple playoff runs. Again though, only he or rice can lay claim to this.
And then you get into drop rate.
And his tackles versus drops stats.
How can Moss or TO be above all of that?
I have Fitz 2nd.
Rice - Best Ever.
Fitz - #2
Moss - This is subjective IMO but Fitz did more.
If he gets to #1 in catches (2 more years), he is clearly over Moss IMO.
#2 all time in receiving yards.
Only he and Rice have 11 Pro Bowls.
The Consecutive games with a catch streak. #2 now and may break it in 2021.
And to me..... He is the most clutch postseason WR of all time. This has weight to me and was proven over multiple playoff runs. Again though, only he or rice can lay claim to this.
And then you get into drop rate.
And his tackles versus drops stats.
How can Moss or TO be above all of that?
uhh Moss broke defenses before you couldn’t get physical with WR’s and pass-happy rule changes were instituted. Like 5 QB’s had career years throwing to him.
Yup running go routes and refusing to do anything else.
like I said can’t praise one and hate the other.
That’s like ripping MJ for not shooting a lot of 3’s. Why would the best WR in the league change his game?
I actually agree with you... But a WRs job isn’t to go make a tackle and make important defensive stops regularly if necessary.no one is ripping him. He’s amazing at what he does but he’s purely a finesse WR and doesn’t do all the other things the other 3 Rice, T.O and Fitz did. Like go over the middle, block, support the run heck even fight for extra yards.
I’m not ripping him at all. I except him for who he is, but I just think it’s funny to see guys hush over Moss a player who avoided contact at all cost and even quit at times but complain about how Peterson isn’t physical enough
just find it funny.
no one is ripping him. He’s amazing at what he does but he’s purely a finesse WR and doesn’t do all the other things the other 3 Rice, T.O and Fitz did. Like go over the middle, block, support the run heck even fight for extra yards.
I’m not ripping him at all. I except him for who he is, but I just think it’s funny to see guys hush over Moss a player who avoided contact at all cost and even quit at times but complain about how Peterson isn’t physical enough
just find it funny.
Well..... Rice won a SB MVP so it could be subjective but i do know this.how was he more clutch then Rice?