If Fitz does retire, where does he rank among all time WRs?

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Top 3.

Stats wise he is #2 all the way. I say top 3 because you will have people that are able to argue for another name in there besides Jerry Rice.

IMO Top three WR's all time are - Rice, Fitz, Moss
 

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Of guys I remember/saw play:

1. Rice - incredibly lucky but still the GOAT
2. Moss - “wrecked the league”
3. T.O. - grading strictly on ability/production although he was a horse’s ***
4. Fitz - incredibly longevity and playoff production
5. Carter - less of a downfield threat than Fitz so I’ll put him below
6. Calvin - if you wanted to put him higher based on pure peak I wouldn’t argue

*probably missing someone obvious*
 

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Of guys I remember/saw play:

1. Rice - incredibly lucky but still the GOAT
2. Moss - “wrecked the league”
3. T.O. - grading strictly on ability/production although he was a horse’s ***
4. Fitz - incredibly longevity and playoff production
5. Carter - less of a downfield threat than Fitz so I’ll put him below
6. Calvin - if you wanted to put him higher based on pure peak I wouldn’t argue

*probably missing someone obvious*

this list is fair.
 

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Rice, Moss, TO, AB, Julio & arguably Megatron. Top 6.
 

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Can’t sit here and say Moss being that high is ok and complain about Patrick Peterson not being physical.

Moss flat out refused to go over the middle, block or support the run game. Hell he flat out quit and just stopped trying at points of his career.

talent wise Moss is as good as they come but he didn’t put in the work Rice, Fitz or T.O did.
 

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Can’t sit here and say Moss being that high is ok and complain about Patrick Peterson not being physical.

Moss flat out refused to go over the middle, block or support the run game. Hell he flat out quit and just stopped trying at points of his career.

talent wise Moss is as good as they come but he didn’t put in the work Rice, Fitz or T.O did.

uhh Moss broke defenses before you couldn’t get physical with WR’s and pass-happy rule changes were instituted. Like 5 QB’s had career years throwing to him.
 

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I’d say 3rd all time best WR.... 4th all time if we are including Q :)

we’ve been lucky as a franchise to have him for 17 years. But it’s time to move on...
 

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I have Fitz 2nd.

Rice - Best Ever.
Fitz - #2
Moss - This is subjective IMO but Fitz did more.

If he gets to #1 in catches (2 more years), he is clearly over Moss IMO.

#2 all time in receiving yards.
Only he and Rice have 11 Pro Bowls.
The Consecutive games with a catch streak. #2 now and may break it in 2021.

And to me..... He is the most clutch postseason WR of all time. This has weight to me and was proven over multiple playoff runs. Again though, only he or rice can lay claim to this.

And then you get into drop rate.
And his tackles versus drops stats.

How can Moss or TO be above all of that?
 

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I have Fitz 2nd.

Rice - Best Ever.
Fitz - #2
Moss - This is subjective IMO but Fitz did more.

If he gets to #1 in catches (2 more years), he is clearly over Moss IMO.

#2 all time in receiving yards.
Only he and Rice have 11 Pro Bowls.
The Consecutive games with a catch streak. #2 now and may break it in 2021.

And to me..... He is the most clutch postseason WR of all time. This has weight to me and was proven over multiple playoff runs. Again though, only he or rice can lay claim to this.

And then you get into drop rate.
And his tackles versus drops stats.

How can Moss or TO be above all of that?

how was he more clutch then Rice?
 

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I have Fitz 2nd.

Rice - Best Ever.
Fitz - #2
Moss - This is subjective IMO but Fitz did more.

If he gets to #1 in catches (2 more years), he is clearly over Moss IMO.

#2 all time in receiving yards.
Only he and Rice have 11 Pro Bowls.
The Consecutive games with a catch streak. #2 now and may break it in 2021.

And to me..... He is the most clutch postseason WR of all time. This has weight to me and was proven over multiple playoff runs. Again though, only he or rice can lay claim to this.

And then you get into drop rate.
And his tackles versus drops stats.

How can Moss or TO be above all of that?
More All-Pros while having higher peaks.

You can make a case that Fitz was never the best WR in a single season unlike Moss & TO.
 

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I have Fitz 2nd.

Rice - Best Ever.
Fitz - #2
Moss - This is subjective IMO but Fitz did more.

If he gets to #1 in catches (2 more years), he is clearly over Moss IMO.

#2 all time in receiving yards.
Only he and Rice have 11 Pro Bowls.
The Consecutive games with a catch streak. #2 now and may break it in 2021.

And to me..... He is the most clutch postseason WR of all time. This has weight to me and was proven over multiple playoff runs. Again though, only he or rice can lay claim to this.

And then you get into drop rate.
And his tackles versus drops stats.

How can Moss or TO be above all of that?

If he gets more TD’s than Moss I will put him over. As it stands he trails by 35... Sorry but Randy was just more of a game changer.

Also forgot to add Isaac Bruce to my list who was elite before the GSOT.
 

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uhh Moss broke defenses before you couldn’t get physical with WR’s and pass-happy rule changes were instituted. Like 5 QB’s had career years throwing to him.

Yup running go routes and refusing to do anything else.

like I said can’t praise one and hate the other.
 

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Yup running go routes and refusing to do anything else.

like I said can’t praise one and hate the other.

That’s like ripping MJ for not shooting a lot of 3’s. Why would the best WR in the league change his game?
 

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I have him 3rd, but objectively could be anywhere between 2 and 4.
 

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That’s like ripping MJ for not shooting a lot of 3’s. Why would the best WR in the league change his game?

no one is ripping him. He’s amazing at what he does but he’s purely a finesse WR and doesn’t do all the other things the other 3 Rice, T.O and Fitz did. Like go over the middle, block, support the run heck even fight for extra yards.

I’m not ripping him at all. I except him for who he is, but I just think it’s funny to see guys hush over Moss a player who avoided contact at all cost and even quit at times but complain about how Peterson isn’t physical enough

just find it funny.
 

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no one is ripping him. He’s amazing at what he does but he’s purely a finesse WR and doesn’t do all the other things the other 3 Rice, T.O and Fitz did. Like go over the middle, block, support the run heck even fight for extra yards.

I’m not ripping him at all. I except him for who he is, but I just think it’s funny to see guys hush over Moss a player who avoided contact at all cost and even quit at times but complain about how Peterson isn’t physical enough

just find it funny.
I actually agree with you... But a WRs job isn’t to go make a tackle and make important defensive stops regularly if necessary.

Trying to compare Moss to Peterson is futile from the get go.
 

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no one is ripping him. He’s amazing at what he does but he’s purely a finesse WR and doesn’t do all the other things the other 3 Rice, T.O and Fitz did. Like go over the middle, block, support the run heck even fight for extra yards.

I’m not ripping him at all. I except him for who he is, but I just think it’s funny to see guys hush over Moss a player who avoided contact at all cost and even quit at times but complain about how Peterson isn’t physical enough

just find it funny.

His 6-year peak literally came right before the 04’ illegal contact rule was implemented where defenders could still be physical with pass catchers. Just a weird nitpick.
 

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how was he more clutch then Rice?
Well..... Rice won a SB MVP so it could be subjective but i do know this.

I think Larry's run to the SB is the stuff of legends. Rice never propelled his team like that. All of the TD's, catches, and insane plays.

then you have the other playoff games like Green Bay. The Palmer catch and run then the shovel pass for the win in OT. When it clearly looked like we were about to lose.

I think that if you look at it subjectively, no other WR had as profound an impact on a teams run to the Super Bowl as Fitz had that year. And his clutch, timeless level plays separate him.

But I'm a massive homer.

As far as the All-Pro's thing. Moss was a monster, I get it. So was T.O. I can't fault the arguments.

What I can say is he was a perennial Pro-Bowler. With crappier QB's throwing to him more often. Had higher highs when it mattered most in the playoffs. Out lasted all of them, and continued to be play at high levels. And the Man of the Year award matters as well. TO And Moss were never MOTY candidates, or leaders in the locker room at any point.

The case is strong. But I'm going with my guy because he has never embarrassed us, the shield, the team, or the fans. Plus.... His stats are (in totality) much better.
 

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