Gannon and Monti have Brought Optimism Back

[oaken1]

Actually we have to score more points than our opponents

And then keep them from scoring more than us.

 

[kerouac9]

And then keep them from scoring more than us.

#facts

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[AZ Native]

We have games vs. SF and SEA in our first four.

Wish the rookies like WillJ had a little more runway to get ready for division opponents.

I hope so too. But the key is our 7 year QB. Here is his chance to best them and get the season started right.

 

[oaken1]

#facts

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[pemory09]

And then keep them from scoring more than us.

This is a great thread of the obvious. You all sound like lot of highly-paid TV announcers.

 

[oaken1]

This is a great thread of the obvious. You all sound like lot of highly-paid TV announcers.

The football voices on this site are renowned all over the world.
With the season rapidly approaching we just thought it a good idea to remind all the brilliant sporting minds to bring it back to the basics.focusing on the little things is how we achieve victory

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I hope so too. But the key is our 7 year QB. Here is his chance to best them and get the season started right.

"The key"? I might argue the key is for our DL and OLB to control the line of scrimmage and get pressure with just four.

But if you say K1 needs to impact those early divisional games with his legs more than he did in 2024 I will agree! For 2025, for Murray, 33% more rushing attempts/yards/TDs is his key.

We're running it back in the passing game though. It's not very fair to expect the passing game to be much more than it was in 2024.

 

[Shane]

"The key"? I might argue the key is for our DL and OLB to control the line of scrimmage and get pressure with just four.

But if you say K1 needs to impact those early divisional games with his legs more than he did in 2024 I will agree! For 2025, for Murray, 33% more rushing attempts/yards/TDs is his key.

We're running it back in the passing game though. It's not very fair to expect the passing game to be much more than it was in 2024.

You’re right we should expect zero improvement out of Marvin Harrison or Michael Wilson or with having Zay Jones from the beginning of the year and not missing six weeks and getting in tune with the offense for an entire off-season.

Kyler having a full year and whole other off-season to get in tune with MHJ and Jones. And of course, Kyler being a star MVP caliber player that he is lifting up everybody around him and showing us his heart like you said he’s gonna. Hopefully the OL actually being healthy this year. Not having to play musical chairs either could hypothetically help improve the passing game as well. Unless I’m mistaken somehow. You’re right we should just expect nothing but the same.

 

[kerouac9]

You’re right we should expect zero improvement out of Marvin Harrison or Michael Wilson or with having Zane Jones from the beginning of the year and not missing six weeks and getting in tune with the offense for an entire off-season.

Kyler having a full year and whole other off-season to get in tune with MHJ and Jones. And of course, Kyler being a star MVP caliber player that he is lifting up everybody around him and showing us his heart like you said he’s gonna. Hopefully the old line actually being healthy this year and not having to play musical chairs either could hypothetically help improve the passing game as well unless I’m mistaken somehow. You’re right we should just expect nothing but the same.

People depending on Zay Jones to be anything more than a credible X receiver in 3 WR sets are fooling themselves.

 

[Shane]

People depending on Zay Jones to be anything more than a credible X receiver in 3 WR sets are fooling themselves.

Credible is really all we need. But the offense should be better just by more time together. Hopefully far less injury across the OL. And of course Kyler finally showing us THIS YEAR his heart right?

 

[SECTION 11]

GUYS the season depends on two things:

How well we perform against our division opponents
AND
Whether we can beat the teams outside our division consistently

LIKE IF YOU AGREE!

STUNNING assessment of ARIZONA CARDINALS chances at WINNING the SUPERBOWL!!

 

[Crimson Warrior]

You’re right we should expect zero improvement out of Marvin Harrison or Michael Wilson or with having Zay Jones from the beginning of the year and not missing six weeks and getting in tune with the offense for an entire off-season.

Kyler having a full year and whole other off-season to get in tune with MHJ and Jones. And of course, Kyler being a star MVP caliber player that he is lifting up everybody around him and showing us his heart like you said he’s gonna. Hopefully the old line actually being healthy this year and not having to play musical chairs either could hypothetically help improve the passing game as well unless I’m mistaken somehow. You’re right we should just expect nothing but the same.

Michael Wilson, Zay, and the o-line... sorry but I'm not counting on any of those three to be better in 2025. Hope I'm super duper wrong tho my friend. I sincerely, sincerely hope I'm dead wrong.

Would love for Wilson to break out (75/1000/10), would love for the o-line to be a ******* fortress in pass pro, and would love for Zay to replace Dortch's YAC and maybe stretch the field a little. 100%.

 

[Shane]

Michael Wilson, Zay, and the o-line... sorry but I'm not counting on any of those three to be better in 2025. Hope I'm super duper wrong tho my friend. I sincerely, sincerely hope I'm dead wrong.

Would love for Wilson to break out (75/1000/10), would love for the o-line to be a ******* fortress in pass pro, and would love for Zay to replace Dortch's YAC and maybe stretch the field a little. 100%.

Continuity of system itself should mean improvement. How much is yet to be seen. And of course health. Last year we had the most or 2nd most starts by back ups along the OL in the league iirc. It matters.

 

[phillycard]

Ari

Arians was great but he was old when he got here and only great in certain areas. JG is younger, smarter, outside all of the boxes and driven like none other.

Until this team reaches the level of the Carson Palmer led Cards, Arians all day everyday. Can you imagine what we would have done with a healthy Carson when we lost to that sappy Panthers team? That Cardinals team played with attitude every week. Didn't care. Went on the road, kicked azz and took names. I loved that team. Possibly more than the Super Bowl team.

 

[Shane]

I loved that team. Possibly more than the Super Bowl team.

Complete and utter blasphemy

 

[phillycard]

Complete and utter blasphemy

LOL!! Some context is called for! The SB team is held in the highest esteem by me, but they were flawed and at times unwatchable. They came inches from touching God (random Lawnmower Man reference) and for that I will always love them to life, but that 15 team may have been the most entertaining assemblage of Cardinals I've ever watched. The Seahawks and Eagles game are 2 of my favorite games I've ever witnessed. We go to the SB and probably win it if we're healthy. I'll stand on that.

 

[PACardsFan]

LOL!! Some context is called for! The SB team is held in the highest esteem by me, but they were flawed and at times unwatchable. They came inches from touching God (random Lawnmower Man reference) and for that I will always love them to life, but that 15 team may have been the most entertaining assemblage of Cardinals I've ever watched. The Seahawks and Eagles game are 2 of my favorite games I've ever witnessed. We go to the SB and probably win it if we're healthy. I'll stand on that.

What’s crazy is that if Palmer doesn’t get hurt, the 2014 Cardinals with Bowles as DC was a better team than the 2015 team.

 

[eastcoastDave]

The point I made was based on ABSOLUTE PERFORMANCE.

You can be big mad about the reality that Kliff took over a 3-13 team and went 13-18-1 (.406 winning) and Gannon took over a 4-13 team and went 12-22 (.353 winning). But that's what the reality is and this is a bottom-line business.

I'm not ready to fire Gannon. He has a fairly high approval rating from me. But trying to massage facts and then denying the reality because you don't like it does you no favors.

The Whisenhunt and Arians debates are more interesting to me and good offseason fodder. Whis was 17-15 through two seasons but made the Super Bowl. Arians was 21-11 with a wild card loss where Ryan Lindley(!) hung tough for a half. I call these pretty close, but it's a good debate based on later careers who was better. Once Warner left Whis tumbled down the garbage disposal.

This debate about who is the better coach is a bit unrealistic. Each coach had a different team, different schedule, different travel, different weather outdoors, different injuries ( for themselves and opponents). There are too many variables to say one coach is better than the other. Would Whis or Arians have duplicated their record had they had last year’s schedule, QB, Oline, Dline, etc, etc. It’s impossible to know. It’s like saying Babe Ruth would have hit 60 homers off today’s pitchers. Unlikely, but unknowable.

 

[oaken1]

This debate about who is the better coach is a bit unrealistic. Each coach had a different team, different schedule, different travel, different weather outdoors, different injuries ( for themselves and opponents). There are too many variables to say one coach is better than the other. Would Whis or Arians have duplicated their record had they had last year’s schedule, QB, Oline, Dline, etc, etc. It’s impossible to know. It’s like saying Babe Ruth would have hit 60 homers off today’s pitchers. Unlikely, but unknowable.

There is only one Head Coach who can challenge John Madden as the best NFL Head Coach of all time...and that is former Cardinals coach Guy Chamberlain
"Chamberlain coached six seasons from 1922-27. He went undefeated in his first two seasons with the Canton Bulldogs, starting his coaching career at age 28. The Bulldogs moved to Cleveland in his third season, then he went on to coach the Frankford Yellow Jackets and Chicago Cardinals, finishing his coaching career with four NFL Championships and a 58-16-7 record."

the only reason he doesnt beat Madden head up is because he did not coach the requisite 100 games in order for his winning percentage to count.... but with a total of 81 games coached Guy Chamberlain had a career winning percentage of .784 and won 4 NFL Championships.
Clearly the most successful coach in Cardinals history, hands down.

 

[kerouac9]

Man this is a really good thread

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’ve never been happier to scroll through a thread and see an absence of my thoughts. This thread aged poorly.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Man this is a really good thread

Even as someone who’s been skeptical of Coach Kendall Roy and Monti, this is an incredibly lame bump. Did you have this bookmarked, just ready to troll people?

 

[Mulli]

GUYS the season depends on two things:

How well we perform against our division opponents
AND
Whether we can beat the teams outside our division consistently

LIKE IF YOU AGREE!

Ooof