Gannon and Monti have Brought Optimism Back

[cardsfanmd]

It's not really that hard to compare them. The results are what they are:

Arians's first two years: 21-11
Gannon's first two years: 12-22

Gannon oversaw the gutting of a roster and kinda-sorta-if-you-squint was close to a winning record in his second season.

I'm fine and dandy with people being excited about Gannon. He looks like less of a goober today than he did two years ago. He might even be the third-best head coach in his division (maybe -- Seattle's guy was 10-7 his first season). But let's give him some time to prove himself. Let him earn the credit you're trying to hand out.

Kliff Kingsbury was 13-18-1 in his first two seasons as a head coach. Gannon is underperforming Kliff Kingsbury.

What do Arians, Whisenhunt, Kliff and JG have in common?? K9 cried and moaned about how much they sucked when they were coaching here. Boy, did you live that Wilks hire, though. Good stuff.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

If this team can just stay relatively healthy, I think we're a lock for 10 wins. I really do.

Phoo phoo the offense all you want; they were solid last year (except in the clutch of course).

And a massive infusion of talent to defensive side + good coaching I think equals a 2025 defense ranked around 10.

Now what happens in december? Down by four late and on the road vs. the Texans? Needing a win to clinch a playoff birth?

Paging Trey McBride! Paging Trey McBride! Please report to the endzone!

 

[CardNots]

Things are going forward in the right direction towards a playoff year for us. If you can't see that, you are blinded by "Cardinals of the past." We have a 10 win team and it might be more.
Saying that is not insane. It is barely being optimistic.

or burned so many times one expects the worst to occur?

 

[BirdGangThing]

most fans legitimately expect double digit wins this season but the real ones know 10 wins might not get us in - regardless - the optimism is clear

 

[oaken1]

If this team can just stay relatively healthy, I think we're a lock for 10 wins. I really do.

Phoo phoo the offense all you want; they were solid last year (except in the clutch of course).

And a massive infusion of talent to defensive side + good coaching I think equals a 2025 defense ranked around 10.

Now what happens in december? Down by four late and on the road vs. the Texans? Needing a win to clinch a playoff birth?

Paging Trey McBride! Paging Trey McBride! Please report to the endzone!

I see 12-5 this season.
Our defense was ranked 12th last year with anybody other than Baker who had talent either injured or a rookie....thus I think we creep to top 5
our offense was middle of the pack but I think just continuity and player development will move is into maybe top 8...assuming that player development motivates the petzing to adjust our offense....the apparent shift to re insert Kylers mobility as a legit threat should be good enough to move us up a couple slots and maybe add 5 points per game.

either way, barring any thing catastrophic we should be in for a great season as Redbird fans

 

[WisconsinCard]

I see 12-5 this season.
Our defense was ranked 12th last year with anybody other than Baker who had talent either injured or a rookie....thus I think we creep to top 5
our offense was middle of the pack but I think just continuity and player development will move is into maybe top 8...assuming that player development motivates the petzing to adjust our offense....the apparent shift to re insert Kylers mobility as a legit threat should be good enough to move us up a couple slots and maybe add 5 points per game.

either way, barring any thing catastrophic we should be in for a great season as Redbird fans

I'll really step out on limb here and say we're not winning 12 games this year.

 

[slanidrac16]

I'll really step out on limb here and say we're not winning 12 games this year.

We look at 8-9 last year and think we’ll build off of that.
Reality check.
Look back at last year and 3 of our wins came on game ending FG’s. That’s how close we were from being 5-12.

This season, we better get off to a tremendous start because the back end of this schedule is brutal. Everything will have to go just right to get to 10 wins. That means we need to get off to a 7-3 start and hope to win 3 of the last 7 games.
This team ( and Kyler) have trended toward fading at the end. I am not planning on buying the champagne any time soon.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I'll really step out on limb here and say we're not winning 12 games this year.

yeah winning 12 in one year is challenging for any team.

But, neither is it impossible to imagine for this team (vs. last year's team where there was no way they were winning 12).

 

[WisconsinCard]

yeah winning 12 in one year is challenging for any team.

But, neither is it impossible to imagine for this team (vs. last year's team where there was no way they were winning 12).

For a team to win 12 games even in a 17 game season you one of two things, IMO. You need an elite QB or an elite defense. Again IMO we have neither. I'm just hoping for an improvement over last year.

 

[kerouac9]

yeah winning 12 in one year is challenging for any team.

But, neither is it impossible to imagine for this team (vs. last year's team where there was no way they were winning 12).

Winning 12 in two years has been a real challenge for this team

 

[Goldfield]

Still hasn’t won us a playoff game or taken us to the Super Bowl.

True but lol @ Still

 

[pemory09]

We look at 8-9 last year and think we’ll build off of that.
Reality check.
Look back at last year and 3 of our wins came on game ending FG’s. That’s how close we were from being 5-12.

This season, we better get off to a tremendous start because the back end of this schedule is brutal. Everything will have to go just right to get to 10 wins. That means we need to get off to a 7-3 start and hope to win 3 of the last 7 games.
This team ( and Kyler) have trended toward fading at the end. I am not planning on buying the champagne any time soon.

True, but fading at the end of a season was a Kliff specialty.

 

[slanidrac16]

True, but fading at the end of a season was a Kliff specialty.

And last year…

 

[PACardsFan]

For a team to win 12 games even in a 17 game season you one of two things, IMO. You need an elite QB or an elite defense. Again IMO we have neither. I'm just hoping for an improvement over last year.

Not necessarily. Scheduling has a LOT to do with any team winning 12 games. Now, it’s impossible to predict how good or bad teams from the NFC & AFC South actually will be. But, they haven’t historically been strong divisions. We won 8 last year playing a brutally tough schedule & we had major talent shortcomings last year. I’m not saying we’ll win 12, but it’s not impossible. Injuries or lack thereof will matter a ton. And I can’t remember the last time the Cardinals got the better end of the stick as it pertains to injuries.

 

[Totally_Red]

Not necessarily. Scheduling has a LOT to do with any team winning 12 games. Now, it’s impossible to predict how good or bad teams from the NFC & AFC South actually will be. But, they haven’t historically been strong divisions. We won 8 last year playing a brutally tough schedule & we had major talent shortcomings last year. I’m not saying we’ll win 12, but it’s not impossible. Injuries or lack thereof will matter a ton. And I can’t remember the last time the Cardinals got the better end of the stick as it pertains to injuries.

As usual a lot will have to do with how we fare versus LA, SF and Seattle. Winning any 3 or even 4 of those will tell the tale IMO.

 

[PACardsFan]

As usual a lot will have to do with how we fare versus LA, SF and Seattle. Winning any 3 or even 4 of those will tell the tale IMO.

I fear that Seattle will be very good this year.

 

[gimpy]

Both the Seahawks and Rams looked pretty good in their games this weekend, to me. Chicago killed Buffalo tonight. Reminded me of the Cardinals game. But, it is only the pre season.

 

[oaken1]

Both the Seahawks and Rams looked pretty good in their games this weekend, to me. Chicago killed Buffalo tonight. Reminded me of the Cardinals game. But, it is only the pre season.

buffalo played like 4 starters for one series...chicago brought the house for nearly a half.
if they played tomorrow and it counted...chicago fans would be sadly disappointed

 

[WisconsinCard]

Not necessarily. Scheduling has a LOT to do with any team winning 12 games. Now, it’s impossible to predict how good or bad teams from the NFC & AFC South actually will be. But, they haven’t historically been strong divisions. We won 8 last year playing a brutally tough schedule & we had major talent shortcomings last year. I’m not saying we’ll win 12, but it’s not impossible. Injuries or lack thereof will matter a ton. And I can’t remember the last time the Cardinals got the better end of the stick as it pertains to injuries.

Of course it's not impossible. But I put my money on the under. I don't believe our defense can carry us to 12 wins. I won't go into my thoughts on K1 and 12 wins.

 

[HoodieBets]

True, but fading at the end of a season was a Kliff specialty.

No that’s a Kyler specialty, Kliff wasn’t here last year.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

As usual a lot will have to do with how we fare versus LA, SF and Seattle. Winning any 3 or even 4 of those will tell the tale IMO.

We have games vs. SF and SEA in our first four.

Wish the rookies like WillJ had a little more runway to get ready for division opponents.

 

[CardNots]

We have games vs. SF and SEA in our first four.

Wish the rookies like WillJ had a little more runway to get ready for division opponents.

When the curtain rises its showtime!

 

[kerouac9]

GUYS the season depends on two things:

How well we perform against our division opponents
AND
Whether we can beat the teams outside our division consistently

LIKE IF YOU AGREE!

 

[oaken1]

GUYS the season depends on two things:

How well we perform against our division opponents
AND
Whether we can beat the teams outside our division consistently

LIKE IF YOU AGREE!

To simplify even further.
It all depends on us winning games

 

[kerouac9]

To simplify even further.
It all depends on us winning games

Actually we have to score more points than our opponents