Draft Positioning Week 16

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I see no way in the world we get Mendoza or Moore.
We need a big investment in this O-line. That’s means using our 1st pick and free agency.
The best we can hope for is if we have to trade back into the first round IF IF IF there is a Qb worthy of taking. Do not hope the Qb slips to us in the 2nd round.
Some will suggest Love. When I watched Gibbs I saw “ it” and wanted him. I don’t see the same in Love. Maybe I’m wrong.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't we root for the Packers against the Ravens on Saturday? Because with a Raven's loss the Steelers game against the Browns becomes completely meaningless (or almost, I think in theory they could still get the #3 seed but only if Houston and the Jaguars lose out) for them and they would maybe at least leave Rodgers out of the game with his broken arm.
 

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Well, we didn’t get much help from the results today. We are still sitting at number six. Tennessee beating KC was beneficial, but their strength of schedule is now lower than ours.

Going into next week we need Tennessee to beat the Saints and the Raiders to beat the Giants to keep the Giants in the number one slot. That gets us to five.

In week 18, we want the Raiders to beat Kansas City and Cleveland to beat Cincinnati. If that happens, we end up at number 3.
We currently pick higher than Tennessee. Having a lower SOS means they lose the tie breaker with us, currently.
 

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That's out of date. We're #5 currently, according to Tankathon:

Maintaining this in part depends on what our remaining opponents do in their non-Arizona game.
 

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That's out of date. We're #5 currently, according to Tankathon:

I know, it can change after every single game since other team's records change SOS. It could change after tonight's games too. You're silly sometimes.
 
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Cards currently 5th, pending tonights game.

We want Indy to beat SF -- that lowers the Cards SOS and increases TEN's


for the rest of the season:

We want the winner of next week's LV vs NYG game to go on and win their final game. For NY, home vs Dallas. For LV, home vs KC. KC is playing its third string QB and looked lifeless vs TENN. Who knows with Dallas.

TEN plays at home vs NO. NO already has 5 wins, so lets go Titans and take SOS out of play.

CLE finishes at home vs PITT (yikes) and on the road vs CIN. Doesnt seem promising.
Same for NYJ. They finish home vs NE and at BUFF. ugh.


FWIW: Im nearly certain the Cards have been eliminated mathematically from the #1 slot. I think the highest they can go is #2.
 

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I know, it can change after every single game since other team's records change SOS. It could change after tonight's games too. You're silly sometimes.
I was with you up until the end. WTF was that? I mean, I am silly at times, but this is not one of them :)
 

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Cards currently 5th, pending tonights game.

We want Indy to beat SF -- that lowers the Cards SOS and increases TEN's


for the rest of the season:

We want the winner of next week's LV vs NYG game to go on and win their final game. For NY, home vs Dallas. For LV, home vs KC. KC is playing its third string QB and looked lifeless vs TENN. Who knows with Dallas.

TEN plays at home vs NO. NO already has 5 wins, so lets go Titans and take SOS out of play.

CLE finishes at home vs PITT (yikes) and on the road vs CIN. Doesnt seem promising.
Same for NYJ. They finish home vs NE and at BUFF. ugh.


FWIW: Im nearly certain the Cards have been eliminated mathematically from the #1 slot. I think the highest they can go is #2.

wow ive been manifesting the 5th pick for months
 

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Cards currently 5th, pending tonights game.

We want Indy to beat SF -- that lowers the Cards SOS and increases TEN's

for the rest of the season:

We want the winner of next week's LV vs NYG game to go on and win their final game. For NY, home vs Dallas. For LV, home vs KC. KC is playing its third string QB and looked lifeless vs TENN. Who knows with Dallas.

TEN plays at home vs NO. NO already has 5 wins, so lets go Titans and take SOS out of play.

CLE finishes at home vs PITT (yikes) and on the road vs CIN. Doesnt seem promising.
Same for NYJ. They finish home vs NE and at BUFF. ugh.

FWIW: Im nearly certain the Cards have been eliminated mathematically from the #1 slot. I think the highest they can go is #2.
I was with you the whole way, but according to The Athletic's simulator, the Cardinals still have a <1% chance of getting the #1 pick.

I was going to list out all of the things that need to happen, but since strength of schedule is a primary factor, aside from the obvious (Cards need to lose while Giants & Raiders need to win) there are a huge number of combinations of results that could benefit or hurt the Cards' odds. Despite being under 1% at the moment, it doesn't take too many outcomes to go the Cards' way to get to over 99%.

An example: Raiders > Giants, Browns > Bengals, Giants > Cowboys, Jets > Bills, and Raiders > Chiefs gets the Cards to 71%, with only a few other results needed to get to >99%.

On the other hand, if the Giants beat the Raiders, a lot more games would have to go the Cards' way. That seems to be the single most important game for the Cards.

Colts > 49ers tonight helps in any scenario, but doesn't seem likely.
 
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