Charmin Marvin Harrison Jr Thread

[HairZach]

His legendary separation was non-existent today, but his fantastic body catching technique was on full display. It's year two and he hasn't dropped the most glaring bad habit and also still hasn't learned to high point a 50/50 ball. Either the teacher sucks rocks or the student is thick as a brick...or both.

I don't think I've ever seen a body catcher in college evolve past that. We've seen that MHJ can make hands catches, but he obviously prefers the body.

As far as the legendary separation, we haven't seen him do that against a good NFL CB yet. Daron Bland made a pro bowl due to some nice pick 6's, but he's awful in coverage.

It is nice to be able to evaluate him better now that he's getting more targets and catchable throws. We can tell ourselves that his struggles are due to Jacoby being a journeyman, but Jacoby's been on target so far. I think what we see is what we get. He can beat the really bad CBs, but if Surtain, Stingley, Gonzales, Sauce, or Witherspoon come to town he's toast.

(I'm pretending that I didnt see him get locked up by Woolen for half the game, it was all Witherspoon)

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It was in the game thread but he has not figured out coming back to the ball is necessary if you can't beat anybody deep. they sit on those routes and close. So tired of watching the ball get knocked away as he reaches for the ball but doesn't move towards it.

The diving one was a great play but he had 4-5 balls today easy he should have caught and either dropped or had knocked away. Seattle tried all week to trade Woolen and Woolen dominated Marv

I made this same comment to cheese today during the game.

 

[daves]

So tired of watching the ball get knocked away as he reaches for the ball but doesn't move towards it.

I see a few people have already mentioned the body catching, but not only does that lead to drops of balls that bounce off his chest pads, but also to easy break-ups by defenders who get their hands in between the ball and his body.

If he reached his damned hands out and gripped the ball, he'd make a lot more catches.

It's mind boggling that the son of a HOF WR didn't learn to catch correctly.

 

[Cheesebeef]

this dude is another DeAndre Ayton.

Unbelievable that Phoenix sports teams keep getting these all-world type talent guys who just don't have the heart to match to make them the superstars they're hyped to be.

Kyler, MasturbAyton, Charmin... all birds of a feather.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I see a few people have already mentioned the body catching, but not only does that lead to drops of balls that hit him in the chest, but also lead to easy break-ups by defenders who get their hands in between the ball and his body.

If he reached his damned hands out and gripped the ball, he'd make a lot more catches.

Just crazy that the son of a HOF WR didn't learn to catch correctly.

This

Bizarre that he doesn't use his hands correctly and won't come back for a pass

 

[Dback Jon]

It was in the game thread but he has not figured out coming back to the ball is necessary if you can't beat anybody deep. they sit on those routes and close. So tired of watching the ball get knocked away as he reaches for the ball but doesn't move towards it.

The diving one was a great play but he had 4-5 balls today easy he should have caught and either dropped or had knocked away. Seattle tried all week to trade Woolen and Woolen dominated Marv

So not a QB issue

Maybe daddy needs to be yelling at his son

 

[Brian in Mesa]

So not a QB issue

Maybe daddy needs to be yelling at his son

Probably why there are no fathers and sons in the NFL Hall of Fame as players. Something doesn't carry over - whether it is the work ethic, or the technique, or the personal desire to be the best. Something gets lost from one generation to the next. Daddy can't do the on-field work. That's on Junior.

 

[Mark22]

So not a QB issue

Maybe daddy needs to be yelling at his son

Unless Kyler is the QB.

 

[HairZach]

Two games, two blowouts, both games in garbage time before half. Lets compare the WR1s in those games.

MHJ 3/12 33 yards and 1 TD

Michael Wilson 15/18 185 yards

Maybe we should start making Michael Wilson the first/2nd read on some of these passing plays?

BTW Marvin Harrisons career receiving high is 130 yards.

 

[TRW]

Two games, two blowouts, both games in garbage time before half. Lets compare the WR1s in those games.

MHJ 3/12 33 yards and 1 TD

Michael Wilson 15/18 185 yards

Maybe we should start making Michael Wilson the first/2nd read on some of these passing plays?

BTW Marvin Harrisons career receiving high is 130 yards.

Wilson as #1 and Marv as #2 might be a good plan going forward.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Wilson as #1 and Marv as #2 might be a good plan going forward.

there can be two #1 wide receivers

 

[DVontel]

This boring 1985 Kevin Stefanski-esque offense that Petzing runs doesn’t do him any favors


But not sure if all of him, Mike, & McBride can succeed at a high level in the same offense. They all sort of overlap

 

[Proteus]

This boring 1985 Kevin Stefanski-esque offense that Petzing runs doesn’t do him any favors


But not sure if all of him, Mike, & McBride can succeed at a high level in the same offense. They all sort of overlap

This offense could really use a fast wide receiver. That speedster wouldn't overlap with our current receivers.

 

[Russ Smith]

there can be two #1 wide receivers

We have zero #1 wide receivers

 

[BirdGangThing]

We have zero #1 wide receivers

saw Wilson get 100 easily today - we've seen Marvin get 100 in 1 quarter

 

[Russ Smith]

I said it last week I'd be awfully tempted to try and trade Marv this offseason. If you can get a RT or even a faster WR.

I mean troy Franklin was a 4th rounder in the same draft as Marv and other than Yards per catch has better stats across the board being stuck with Nix

 

[Russ Smith]

saw Wilson get 100 easily today - we've seen Marvin get 100 in 1 quarter

Oh he was great today I just don't think he's a true #1 WR. I don't think Marv is either

 

[HairZach]

saw Wilson get 100 easily today - we've seen Marvin get 100 in 1 quarter

We saw Wilson get 185 yards, the most receiving yards in a single game of any WR in the league for 2025. MHJ has broken 100 yards twice in his career, and frankly the busted coverage against the Rams practice squad DB was something any WR can do. We've seen Rondale Moore do that.

I'm not saying Wilson is a real #1, but MHJ is arguably worse than him and that is sad.

If Gannon/Monti are fired I think we can point to the MHJ pick as the downfall. He was supposed to be the star that elevated this team, instead he's a #2 WR that the coaches are forced to treat like a #1, he gets shut down by all but the worst CBs.

 

[BirdGangThing]

We saw Wilson get the most receiving yards in a single game for the season today. MHJ has broken 100 yards twice in his career, and frankly the busted coverage against the Rams practice squad DB was something any WR can do. We've seen Rondale Moore do that.

I'm not saying Wilson is a real #1, but MHJ is arguably worse than him and that is sad.

If Gannon/Monti are fired I think we can point to the MHJ pick as the downfall. He was supposed to be the star that elevated this team, instead he's a #2 WR that the coaches are forced to treat like a #1, he gets shut down by all but the worst CBs.

im saying this team is so messed up wilson and mhj could be probowlers and we'd never know

 

[TJ]

We saw Wilson get 185 yards, the most receiving yards in a single game of any WR in the league for 2025. MHJ has broken 100 yards twice in his career, and frankly the busted coverage against the Rams practice squad DB was something any WR can do. We've seen Rondale Moore do that.

I'm not saying Wilson is a real #1, but MHJ is arguably worse than him and that is sad.

If Gannon/Monti are fired I think we can point to the MHJ pick as the downfall. He was supposed to be the star that elevated this team, instead he's a #2 WR that the coaches are forced to treat like a #1, he gets shut down by all but the worst CBs.

This is insane.

Wilson had more yards today than Larry Fitzgerald did in any game of his career. Are you prepared to make the argument that Wilson is better than Fitz?

Anyone using a fluke performance from this game to assess MHJ’s viability in the league is being an emotional fanboy. We’ve long established that the offensive system and instability in QB play have been much more impactful to MHJ’s career than anything else.

There’s not one GM in the league who would even imply that Wilson is a better receiver. This is ridiculous

 

[TJ]

im saying this team is so messed up wilson and mhj could be probowlers and we'd never know

I’ve seen enough of both to believe that MHJ is a pro bowl level #1 and Wilson a solid #2. People really forgot how much of a struggle it was for Kyler to eclipse 200 passing yards in a game and how disjointed Petzing’s offenses have been.

 

[TRW]

there can be two #1 wide receivers

OK

 

[WeBlitz]

This is insane.

Wilson had more yards today than Larry Fitzgerald did in any game of his career. Are you prepared to make the argument that Wilson is better than Fitz?

Anyone using a fluke performance from this game to assess MHJ’s viability in the league is being an emotional fanboy. We’ve long established that the offensive system and instability in QB play have been much more impactful to MHJ’s career than anything else.

There’s not one GM in the league who would even imply that Wilson is a better receiver. This is ridiculous

Be honest.

Would you have called it a fluke if it was MHJ that had Wilson’s performance today?

The Kyler excuse is falling on deaf ears. Does Marvin need to play the worst defense in years to produce? The GB and Seattle performances have been typical Marvin. The offense flowed better without him than with him against Indy after his injury.

Could there be someone better than Petzing? Absolutely. However, Marvin is not blameless and it’s insane you continue to act like he is.

 

[TJ]

Could there be someone better than Petzing? Absolutely. However, Marvin is not blameless and it’s insane you continue to act like he is.

Yet, you keep saying that he should be a healthy scratch, which is asinine.

 

[WeBlitz]

Yet, you keep saying that he should be a healthy scratch, which is asinine.

Can you not put words in my mouth? I never said that.

You just continue to act like Marvin Jr is already a bonafide stud that is completely blameless. That would be Trey McBride. That would be Paris Johnson Jr. That is not Marvin Harrison Jr at this time.