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If we traded back with someone like the Lions I'd have no problem taking Avila with their #18. I don't think he lasts until the 2nd and I think he's the best IOL in the class.
 
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Would Wypler be there in the 3rd?

Josh Myers, who was OSU's starting C before Wypler was drafted in round 2 at #64 and in my opinion Wypler is the better player.

Wypler at #66 would be good value.
I’d guess yes on the early third, but it’s a risk
 

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Starting to believe it’s less & less likely Tyree Wilson will be in heavy consideration without doing the combine or Pro Day due to a medical concern.
 

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Ok draft nerds. They both come with risks and both would only be options if we traded back. Who are you taking if you had to choose.

Jalen Carter or Bryan Breese?
 

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Ok draft nerds. They both come with risks and both would only be options if we traded back. Who are you taking if you had to choose.

Jalen Carter or Bryan Breese?
Eeks… that’s a tough call. It seems that Carter is the choice based on talent but good lord we can’t miss on this pick if this guy is a head case.
 

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Ok draft nerds. They both come with risks and both would only be options if we traded back. Who are you taking if you had to choose.

Jalen Carter or Bryan Breese?
Zoiks, that's a tough one. Breese has huge question marks if he can be good and if he wasn't great because of life circumstances. Carter has huge question marks because of the character issues and because he produced very little even surrounded by talent.

I'm not a fan of drafting either with our top pick, even if we traded out of the top 15. That said, for the sake of the exercise, I guess Breese?
 

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Ok draft nerds. They both come with risks and both would only be options if we traded back. Who are you taking if you had to choose.

Jalen Carter or Bryan Breese?

It's close but I'll go Carter. If this is a straight choice at say #15.

There's not been any concerns about his on field attitude from what I've seen and I'll gamble on the off field stuff being youthful indiscretion that he's learned is lesson from and that he will use it as motivation moving forward.

Don't see the Diche stuff at all. Diche didn't love football, it was just a job for him. Never did the work.
 

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Ok draft nerds. They both come with risks and both would only be options if we traded back. Who are you taking if you had to choose.

Jalen Carter or Bryan Breese?
Bresee.

Carter has significant character (moral AND football) risks. And it's not like he was more productive to begin with.

Bresee also looks like he can get bigger and I don't think Carter is getting much bigger.
 

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It's close but I'll go Carter. If this is a straight choice at say #15.

There's not been any concerns about his on field attitude from what I've seen and I'll gamble on the off field stuff being youthful indiscretion that he's learned is lesson from and that he will use it as motivation moving forward.

Don't see the Diche stuff at all. Diche didn't love football, it was just a job for him. Never did the work.
I also don't get that vibe but I feel that is the question that needs to be answered. Was it a stupid mistake or part of a person who only loves what football provides.
 

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I also don't get that vibe but I feel that is the question that needs to be answered. Was it a stupid mistake or part of a person who only loves what football provides.

I tend to lean towards stupid mistake. Simply because it's a stupid mistake a lot of young drivers make whether they play football or not. I can't imagine what I'd have been like is local dealerships were throwing cars like that at me at 21.

Plus I think is there were general attitude concerns we would have heard much more about it. He's done a bunch of interviews and visits already. If there was an issue there it would be out there in the world.

It's a close call between the two though. I like Carter's play more than Bresee. I like Bresee's story and character more than Carter. Ask me tomorrow I might fall the other way.
 

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It's close but I'll go Carter. If this is a straight choice at say #15.

There's not been any concerns about his on field attitude from what I've seen and I'll gamble on the off field stuff being youthful indiscretion that he's learned is lesson from and that he will use it as motivation moving forward.

Don't see the Diche stuff at all. Diche didn't love football, it was just a job for him. Never did the work.
Carter being gassed in the playoffs... then still being out of shape at his pro day,..is EXACTLY him not being willing to put in the work and not having enough love for the game.
 

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