CFB & Prospect Discussion Thread:

[Krangodnzr]

So bigger leki Fotu.

That stood out to me as well.

If you watch Fotu, his biggest problem is disengaging from blocks and grabbing the ball carrier. So many times, you'll watch him get good initial push, and then see the running back run right through a gap near him without Fotu even noticing. Zero instincts.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Meh. Ika was recruited to LSU so his recruiting profile was much higher. I believe he is more capable of being the player we wanted Fotu to be.

High second rounder value we wanted fotu to be drafting him in fourth? Not snarky, just asking your opinion.

 

[Adrian]

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[Chopper0080]

High second rounder value we wanted fotu to be drafting him in fourth? Not snarky, just asking your opinion.

People were hoping Fotu would be a 70% of Vita Vea as a 4th round pick. There is an argument that Ika is more of that player and is a 2nd rounder because of it.

 

[Chopper0080]

Where Ika has value for the Cardinals (the NT position in general) is that we are a fairly run heavy division. The best ways to beat the Rams, Seahawks and 49ers is to play a base defense which can stop the run without having to commit safeties. That said, sometimes you can find quality NTs in free agency.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Where Ika has value for the Cardinals (the NT position in general) is that we are a fairly run heavy division. The best ways to beat the Rams, Seahawks and 49ers is to play a base defense which can stop the run without having to commit safeties. That said, sometimes you can find quality NTs in free agency.

They definitely don't come around too often. I can't remember many.

 

[Adrian]

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[Russ Smith]

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So he's declaring To'o

 

[Adrian]

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[SissyBoyFloyd]

I don´t think we have enough picks to take all of those.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

With the growing habit of dlmen raising up to bat down passes rather than often all out rushing, 6-foot-6 and 275 pounds, Tyree Wilson from Tex Tech would be a good fit for Cards if Anderson is taken.

 

[Harry]

With the growing habit of dlmen raising up to bat down passes rather than often all out rushing, 6-foot-6 and 275 pounds, Tyree Wilson from Tex Tech would be a good fit for Cards if Anderson is taken.

He’s a little slow and not extremely agile. Still DL is thin so figure he goes mid to late first.

 

[overseascardfan]

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Also
Micah Abraham MARSH 6'2 179
Kyu Blu Kelly STAN 6'1 188

I would love Emmanuel Forbes 6'0 180 in second round if ARZ goes DL, EDGE or OT in first round.

 

[football karma]

Where Ika has value for the Cardinals (the NT position in general) is that we are a fairly run heavy division. The best ways to beat the Rams, Seahawks and 49ers is to play a base defense which can stop the run without having to commit safeties. That said, sometimes you can find quality NTs in free agency.

this x100. My only objection is the use of "fairly". All three offenses are predicated on being able to run the ball first.

why does the Cardinal defense get beaten so badly by waggles, boots, backside runs, etc? Because they try to make up for poor DLine play by getting bodies to the ball.

I like Ika as a prospect because (per reports) -- he does have middle pass rush push. I think he is more than a 2 down player.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

He’s a little slow and not extremely agile. Still DL is thin so figure he goes mid to late first.

Slow and lacks agility. Awesome!

 

[reebokalone2001]

Slow and lacks agility. Awesome!

Marcus Golden 2.0?

 

[Adrian]

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[BritCard]

A lower round guy I like, probably in the 3rd, is Mike Morris from Michigan.

Has been playing mainly Edge at 6'6" and 295lbs and has 7.5 sacks despite missing a couple of games. Only really played the one year and at 21 he's not yet declared (and may not as he may go much higher next year). But I really like him to move inside to DE in a 3 man front but you could really move him around depending on your alignment. Has good size and nice speed for a dude that big.

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[RON_IN_OC]

This guy (Jordan Reid) has the Cards with Tyree Wilson. I think the SI post earlier had that, as well.

Reid's new 2023 NFL mock draft: Predictions for Round 1, landing spots for four QBs in the top 10

Four franchise signal-callers off the board early? Six Day 1 cornerbacks? As we get ready for the final week of the NFL season, Jordan Reid projects all 31 first-round picks of April's draft.

www.espn.com

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[gmabel830]

Jared Verse, Edge rusher from FSU, is staying in school. Was a potential first rounder. One less guy in a trade down situation/who could be there in second round.

 

[DVontel]

Jared Verse, Edge rusher from FSU, is staying in school. Was a potential first rounder. One less guy in a trade down situation/who could be there in second round.

Tbh, he was never falling to the second round.

 

[Harry]

A lower round guy I like, probably in the 3rd, is Mike Morris from Michigan.

Has been playing mainly Edge at 6'6" and 295lbs and has 7.5 sacks despite missing a couple of games. Only really played the one year and at 21 he's not yet declared (and may not as he may go much higher next year). But I really like him to move inside to DE in a 3 man front but you could really move him around depending on your alignment. Has good size and nice speed for a dude that big.

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This is a very good suggestion. He’s a versatile DL who can penetrate. He needs to learn better leverage, but he’s trainable. He has a good motor and would make a solid rotation player.

 

[BritCard]

Jared Verse, Edge rusher from FSU, is staying in school. Was a potential first rounder. One less guy in a trade down situation/who could be there in second round.

I'm really surprised at that. He's getting 1st round talk and that might be as good as it ever gets for him.

A lot of these guys who stay thinking that they will go top 5 next year end up dropping.

 

[Harry]

Next year’s pool is thinner on DL, especially Edge.

 

[ajcardfan]

This is a very good suggestion. He’s a versatile DL who can penetrate. He needs to learn better leverage, but he’s trainable. He has a good motor and would make a solid rotation player.

He could be. So could Cam Thomas.

Personally, I am tired of seeing us address the Dline with mid to late draft picks. And going cheap on those positions in free agency. Signing old vets past their heyday. I loved having JJ Watt for 2 years but he was exactly that kind of signing.

How many more years do we need to see teams jamming the ball down the throat of our bunch of "he's a good value" players before we step up and go big on the Dline?