Assuming Brissett is the Best QB Option

[kerouac9]

So you're saying you want them to win this year and cost themselves a chance at a generational QB. Is that what you're saying otherwise they're losers? I don't give one rip about how many wins this season if we get the QB we want because without that locked down, we're going nowhere. Playing the long game rather than short term gratification over a few meaningless wins. And I don't care if Badwell is a millionaire or a poser - don't care whose money it is. It's just bad business to throw $10MM at Brisket just to appear to a fanbase that we're in it to win it.

A generational QB prospect isn’t promised at the end of this. This same argument was made when Kyler was injured — endure the pain for another season because consistent success is on the other side. We ended up 4-13, out of range of a good QB prospect or a haul, and ended up with a fairly ordinary wide receiver.

Sam Darnold just won the Super Bowl. Joe Burrow’s team went 6-11. The Chiefs missed the playoffs. Both Aaron Rodgers and Bryce Young started playoff games in their home stadiums.

It’s possible to make the playoffs if you’re trying. No one has lost their way to consistent success.

I think Jacoby Brissett makes the difference between a 3- and 6-win season. I have money on the Cards winning six games or more. I also think he makes the difference between Love having 750 yards rushing and 900 yards. I think he’s the difference between this team having two 1000 yard receivers and zero.

I have a very strong preference for being bad and fun over bad and hopeless.

 

[Chopper0080]

So you're saying you want them to win this year and cost themselves a chance at a generational QB. Is that what you're saying otherwise they're losers? I don't give one rip about how many wins this season if we get the QB we want because without that locked down, we're going nowhere. Playing the long game rather then short term gratification over a few meaningless wins. And I don't care if Badwell is a millionaire or a poser - don't care whose money it is. It's just bad business to throw $10MM at Brisket just to appear to a fanbase that we're in it to win it.

This franchise has been losing for most of it's history and they haven't been able to find a generational QB. Why would this be any different. Only a loser mentality thinks the answer to losing is more losing. Winning establishes a winning culture. Trying to win games is the best to actually win. If Brissett is a better QB than Minshew (he is) and a better QB than Beck is right now (he is), you owe it to your team/coach/fans to pay the 10 mil extra to add the better QB. The fakest narrative is that Jacoby Brissett is both too good to sign because we might win games, but also not better than Gardner Minshew AT THE SAME MOMENT IN TIME.

The Saints tried to win games last year and still drafted 8th. The Cardinals are not costing themselves any future opportunities by signing Jacoby Brissett. They do run the risk of costing themselves some of the few fans of the franchise left and digging themselves an even larger hole to dig out of than they already have.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[Brian in Mesa]

Cardinals' fans: A generational QB will NOT fix this mess.

Also, Cardinals' fans: We need to do whatever we can to get a generational QB.

 

[gimpy]

Yeah...I don't care about billionaire saving money when they run one of the worst franchises in professional sports. I want to be a fan of a team that is focused on winning football games and doing everything they can do that. Not one that makes bad moves and then chooses not to make even minimal improvements because "*fill in the blank* season doesn't matter. It should matter, and when it doesn't it is a pure loser mentality and costs you fans.

Sorry, Chopper, but if you want to be a fan of a team focused on winning, I think you need to change teams.. I don't know if they will ever win, but here's hoping.

 

[kerouac9]

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I know it’s #contentszn but these are extremely normal shoes that people wear pre/post training. They’re an alternative to like adidas slides. Go to any soccer field and 40% of the kids will be wearing these.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I know it’s #contentszn but these are extremely normal shoes that people wear pre/post training. They’re an alternative to like adidas slides. Go to any soccer field and 40% of the kids will be wearing these.

Do they make them in a 15W?

 

[SECTION 11]

So, why did Fonzie have to jump the shark in the first place? Like what if he just said no?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

So, why did Fonzie have to jump the shark in the first place? Like what if he just said no?

Henry Winkler couldn't let his pops down !!

The stunt was written into the show because Winkler’s father repeatedly urged him to tell the producers about his water-skiing abilities, which he had developed as a camp instructor.

 

[Goldfield]

At this point, I'd rather (if he doesn't get a deal done with Tampa) go hard after Baker Mayfield next year. Or even push to trade for him at the deadline if the Bucs are out of contention by then.

I’d trade for him now

 

[602 Native]

How many of you thought Brisket played well last season?

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

How many of you thought Brisket played well last season?

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there you go talking about us fans without having the balls to name any names - just talking sideways - not to mention brissett played well enough to take quitter murray's job - lol

 

[kerouac9]

How many of you thought Brisket played well last season?

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Do you think Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, and Jaxson Dart played well last season?

 

[602 Native]

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[602 Native]

Do you think Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, and Jaxson Dart played well last season?

Careful you’re gonna piss off the Joe Burrow zealots.

 

[some dumb guy]

How many of you thought Brisket played well last season?

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I aint skeert. I do. You can throw all the stats out there you want but most will show he had a career best. If you're going to use stats to prove a point than use ALL the stats. As in the stats of the great running backs he played with. The back up front line he stood behind. It's all a ripple effect....the only outlier stat is Murray getting hit in the face from a snap (which would have hit a normal sized QB in the chest) and ending up with a season ending foot injury. That's the only Twilight Zone question that needs to be answered.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

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No Brissette!!??

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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Some Heisman winners even though no one has won a Heisman and a SB in several decades. Hmmm. Where's that short guy that won a Heisman? Not on the list, huh?

 

[schutd]

That seems like an exhausting bit but to each their own.

See, I dont think its solely a contrarian take. Most people are emotionally invested in their fandom. Emotion ruins rationality. Its really effing hard to root for a team who at its core you know is rotten. For the life of me I cannot understand why I root for this team. I have even somehow drawn in 2 friends here in SC to start rooting for them.

We suck. We're terrible, we've always been terrible and most likely always will be, save for the couple of blind squirrel finding a nut seasons here and there.

It takes a special kind of idiot to be pragmatic and yet still root for this team. I don't begrudge the defenders of the Org. Deep inside, they know they're wrong. They just can't rectify that fact with wasting yet another year of life hoping that we will finally turn some metaphorical corner.

 

[oaken1]

See, I dont think its solely a contrarian take. Most people are emotionally invested in their fandom. Emotion ruins rationality. Its really effing hard to root for a team who at its core you know is rotten. For the life of me I cannot understand why I root for this team. I have even somehow drawn in 2 friends here in SC to start rooting for them.

We suck. We're terrible, we've always been terrible and most likely always will be, save for the couple of blind squirrel finding a nut seasons here and there.

It takes a special kind of idiot to be pragmatic and yet still root for this team. I don't begrudge the defenders of the Org. Deep inside, they know they're wrong. They just can't rectify that fact with wasting yet another year of life hoping that we will finally turn some metaphorical corner.

sorry for the long post Shutd, this is not all directed in response to you..but some.

we do suck..we have always sucked unless we got divine intervention for a bit of luck..Deeny Greens drafts...B.A. at coach...Kurt stumbling in for one last shot after he got disrespected in NY...but we have never taken deliberate actions that lead to success it seems.
everyone knows this...all the fans, and all the players.

thats why I am hit or miss on Briskett..dont care one way or another whether we cut him or pay him 20mil for the year..it aint my money...but dude knew who we were when he signed on...and he knew he would start a lot of games..he knew kylers injury history just like we all did...and we all knew two years ago kyler was gonna be gone before that contract was up...we had a big thread on when we could walk away without totally crippling the team...so on one hand, with briskett..im like, "Honor the deal you signed... but on the other hand...milk them for all you can get because you aint getting any younger.
Im more fortunate than many because I am an actual NFL fan, and more than that,..a student and fan of the game itself...I just happen to be attached to the Redbirds and the Raiders as the teams I have emotional stake in...bummer for me, lol.

but when you look at it from mikeys position...it will cost him 1.5mil to cut briskett...thats lost money, but its less than he has to pay him to play.
so you ask yourself...does briskett make the differrence between a 3 win season,...and maybe fighting for the playoffs?? I dont think so...pretty sure nobody else does either...briskett does not likely make the difference between 2 wins and 5 wins.....so why pay him the extra money when we dont usually roll inro rhe season with three QB's on the roster?
I think they have already decided to cut him... but they are just waiting..as a stick it to him,...waiting until its too late for him to get a decent offer with another team....punishment as it were for popping right out there and demanding a raise as soon as kyler was gone, when everyone already knew the situation.
and since his presence on the roster isnt likely to make a significant difference...I dont care either way...
I have a thought process on a way we can win some games but everyone else seems to think it crazy...so screw it..its crazy...so we roll with the idea there really isnt any hope this season...and that being the case...JB is as good as gone.
with hat we know about the team do we think it likely we carry Brisket, stache, and Beck on the roster into the season?? if not...which one is safe on the practice squad?
so im pretty sure JB is gone...this social media barrage by players might be a push to keep him on the roster

I dunno...last seasoon we were predicted to win some games and everything fell apart...its basically the same roster....so, maybe...but not likely..
my suggestion for the rest....find a reason to love the game itself...it makes even bad seasons watchable.