Carolina Panthers @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 09/07/25-09/13/25

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New orleans has been a difficult place to play for as long as I can remember. It does get loud and the fans know how to use it. The line was always looking back to Kyler I assume for the count but that split second does make a difference. If we see the same issues this week it could be an issue long term
 

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New orleans has been a difficult place to play for as long as I can remember. It does get loud and the fans know how to use it. The line was always looking back to Kyler I assume for the count but that split second does make a difference. If we see the same issues this week it could be an issue long term
The Saints will be held back by their QB play.

I think the rest of the team will play up for their new coach.
 

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Hopefully that embarrassing loss to Carolina last season will prevent the Cards from overlooking them this week. Also expecting Sweat to have a big game after being invisible last week.
No way anyone in that building overlooking them. Panthers along with Rams have co-ownership of Cards until proven different.
 

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Bad offense? Or solid defensive fronts??
Always questions after week one.
I for one am hoping the New Orleans defensive front proves out to be exceptionally stout...or else we need a new line coach.

It is a good run blocking front, but also our blocking was bad.
 

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I’ve thought PFF was on the upswing, but this is not what I saw. If you watched the Seattle pass rush, this line is scary.

I've been watching the tape and the line has been good. I'm pretty much through the 1st half and aside for one Isaiah Adams whiff it's been good. What pressure there has been came from TE's or bad protection called, but linemen all did their assigned jobs.
 

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I think the Saints starting defense is good, but mainly it was just week one sloppiness I hope.
Me too. I’m not putting any weight on any of this yet — good or bad. But to say that Conner especially or the running game was effective is just counter-factual. One very good run and largely putting us off-schedule the rest of the time.

Carolina seems like a good opponent to get healthy against. They didn’t do much of anything to improve a historically bad defense from last season.
 

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Me too. I’m not putting any weight on any of this yet — good or bad. But to say that Conner especially or the running game was effective is just counter-factual. One very good run and largely putting us off-schedule the rest of the time.

Carolina seems like a good opponent to get healthy against. They didn’t do much of anything to improve a historically bad defense from last season.

The other option is that the change of OL coach has meant a change in scheme or he's not as good. Not a zero possibility that has a negative effect on the run game.
 

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The other option is that the change of OL coach has meant a change in scheme or he's not as good. Not a zero possibility that has a negative effect on the run game.
Totally. Lots of potential causes; we just can’t be in denial of what the effects are. The offense was cheeks last week; can’t practice and plan like it was good.
 

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The other option is that the change of OL coach has meant a change in scheme or he's not as good.
I think the former is pretty unlikely. Its Petzing's scheme and he is a running game guy. The latter ... of course.
 

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Did they? James Conner averaged 3.3 YPC; the running game (including Kyler) had a 33% success rate.

Maybe the Aints defense ends up being elite.
Averages aside K. I'm not going off just numbers. Both had some good runs. Extrapolate those runs over a full game and we do much better.
 

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Averages aside K. I'm not going off just numbers. Both had some good runs. Extrapolate those runs over a full game and we do much better.
Yes if you only take their best runs and forget about the majority of the runs that were bad, they’ll look really good!
 

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Me too. I’m not putting any weight on any of this yet — good or bad. But to say that Conner especially or the running game was effective is just counter-factual. One very good run and largely putting us off-schedule the rest of the time.

Carolina seems like a good opponent to get healthy against. They didn’t do much of anything to improve a historically bad defense from last season.
I wouldn't go so far as to say effective. Your numbers prove that, but I saw what I saw and that is JC running hard as usual and a beautiful run by Benson (even though I'm incredulous that he got ran down by Granderson) If we dominate that front like Jacksonville did, it'll be a banner afternoon by the boys on Sunday.
 

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