Budda requests trade

[SECTION 11]

I must be crazy, because you definitely thought we were getting better by letting Byron Murphy and Zach Allen go.

I don’t think we’re better, I just don’t think there was anything that could have been done about it except over paying them, which I wouldn’t have done.

 

[kerouac9]

I don’t think we’re better, I just don’t think there was anything that could have been done about it except over paying them, which I wouldn’t have done.

Overpaying them compared to what?

 

[Minski]

It’s clear Monti is turning us into NE

 

[MadCardDisease]

Buddy is a loyal guy. However he saw first hand how the old staff was treated, many of whom he was very close to. I wouldn’t want to be a part of that either.

Free Budda! He deserves to play for a contender.

 

[Brak]

The 49ers won the Super Bowl in '81 with THREE rookie DB's. That's insane - but shows that with a solid draft you can be competitive very quickly. In that case, they took it to the house. I'd settle for "competitive" this year. Go ahead and move Budda and load up on picks, and continue to deflate the cap. Have a competitive season this year with a bunch of rookies and new faces, take another step forward next year.

 

[kerouac9]

It’s clear Monti is turning us into NE HOU

FTFY

 

[kerouac9]

The 49ers won the Super Bowl in '81 with THREE rookie DB's. That's insane - but shows that with a solid draft you can be competitive very quickly. In that case, they took it to the house. I'd settle for "competitive" this year. Go ahead and move Budda and load up on picks, and continue to deflate the cap. Have a competitive season this year with a bunch of rookies and new faces, take another step forward next year.

This example from over 40 years ago is definitely very relevant today.

 

[PJ1]

The 49ers won the Super Bowl in '81 with THREE rookie DB's. That's insane - but shows that with a solid draft you can be competitive very quickly. In that case, they took it to the house. I'd settle for "competitive" this year. Go ahead and move Budda and load up on picks, and continue to deflate the cap. Have a competitive season this year with a bunch of rookies and new faces, take another step forward next year.

Who else was on their D?

 

[Stout]

Your evidence isn’t evidence at all. To think that MOJG hasn’t spelled out plans to Budda is asinine. Based on Budda’s requests, doesn’t sound like he’s much of a team captain. Ever since we ignored his plea for VJ to be the new HC, he’s done nothing but whine. He just wanted more of the same old, same old.

Dang, you're going to toe the company line too?

 

[PACardsFan]

Dang, you're going to toe the company line too?

MOJG doing what they said they would do. Putting team ahead of individuals, and looking for players that will do the same. That’s definitely not the path that Budda is taking, now is it? At this stage in his career, Budda doesn’t want to be a team player. And that’s fine. He wants to cash in while he’s still the caliber of player that can.

 

[MadCardDisease]

MOJG doing what they said they would do. Putting team ahead of individuals, and looking for players that will do the same. That’s definitely not the path that Budda is taking, now is it? At this stage in his career, Budda doesn’t want to be a team player. And that’s fine. He wants to cash in while he’s still the caliber of player that can.

Yeah that isn’t the reason Budda has requested a trade. He is fed up with this dysfunctional franchise and doesn’t want to be a part of a full on rebuild. Budda is the ultimate team player. That alone should raise red flags with Cardinals fans.

 

[AZCB34]

Every single player wants to get paid as much as they can first and foremost. They do not care about the team until they have signed because the team doesn’t care about them until they sign. Sometimes, it appears the team doesn’t care even after they are signed.

I’m amazed anyone truly believes any different in the NFL in 2023.

Also, are we now using a team from 1981 to bolster an argument?

 

[SECTION 11]

Overpaying them compared to what?

What they signed for. And maybe they tried to I dunno.

 

[SECTION 11]

Yeah that isn’t the reason Budda has requested a trade. He is fed up with this dysfunctional franchise and doesn’t want to be a part of a full on rebuild. Budda is the ultimate team player. That alone should raise red flags with Cardinals fans.

There is nothing but red flags. It’s one massive red flag.
Red Flag would have been the ultimate last Mad Jack banner.

 

[SECTION 11]

Rise up Red Flag!

 

[QuebecCard]

Then they should sell the team.
The Budwills have billions of dollars.
Crying poor in the NFL might be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

The Brown family is about to make Joe Burrow the richest player in NFL history and football is their only business.

If QB investment is your best and only actual point, you may want to check out Kyler's contract.

 

[QuebecCard]

Yeah that isn’t the reason Budda has requested a trade. He is fed up with this dysfunctional franchise and doesn’t want to be a part of a full on rebuild. Budda is the ultimate team player. That alone should raise red flags with Cardinals fans.

Too funny!

If they bowed to his demand for a new deal, he'd be cheering on the rebuild.

 

[gmartin]

Overpaying them compared to what?

What there're worth?

 

[QuebecCard]

What there're worth?

BIM: They're

 

[Jetstream Green]

Every single player wants to get paid as much as they can first and foremost. They do not care about the team until they have signed because the team doesn’t care about them until they sign. Sometimes, it appears the team doesn’t care even after they are signed.

I’m amazed anyone truly believes any different in the NFL in 2023.

Also, are we now using a team from 1981 to bolster an argument?

Which means what? We are all idiots then for arguing one way or the other for people who do not give a damn about you, me or other fans... oh, and make sure to pay them for taking that position lol

 

[Zalixar]

Which means what? We are all idiots then for arguing one way or the other for people who do not give a damn about you, me or other fans... oh, and make sure to pay them for taking that position lol

Yes.

 

[kerouac9]

What there're worth?

according to whom?

 

[BritCard]

You made a post in a different thread earlier today suggesting we could get better by signing TJ Hockenson in free agency next year. Yet here you are saying that TEs don't offer value and teams get better by letting good but highly paid tight ends go, which describes TJ Hockenson.

lol you guys. The lengths you will go to for an Ackshually win, including the people that liked it. Usual suspects I see. Like a little group.

Firstly, I threw together a random team in about 5 minutes to make a point of what we could look like in 2024. It was hardly a well strategize scenario. You can insert any vet TE you like there, I just picked one at random.

Second, I said highly paid TE's are not valued in the league. Kittle, Kelce etc sure but otherwise not really.

Which is why, and I really can't say this vehemently enough, the Lions just traded Hockenson. The Raiders just traded Waller and guys like Mike Gesicki could only get $4.5m in FA and Dalton Schultz $6.25m. Despite both of them having multiple 700+ yard seasons.

Literally teams are moving on from TE's they don't want to pay left and right because they think the money is better spent elsewhere. Fans here want to move on from a TE still capable of 800 yards that we pay $10m to because they don't think it's value.

But sure, sick burn.

 

[BritCard]

Yes NEXT year, 2024 for Gods sake, You are saying rebuilds take 2-3 years meaning we might be good by 2025 or 2026 and you somehow think that is acceptable. I showed you several scenarios where 1 year rebuilds happen but said I can accept 1 losing year but anything more than that is unacceptable.

Next year is 2 years!

A 1 year turnaround would be this year. 2 years is 2024. 3 years is 2025.

 

[Stout]

Yeah that isn’t the reason Budda has requested a trade. He is fed up with this dysfunctional franchise and doesn’t want to be a part of a full on rebuild. Budda is the ultimate team player. That alone should raise red flags with Cardinals fans.

Bingo. Asking a player to put the team first when the team has proven to be absolutely ass is dumb.